• There were many reasons for the change of the site software, the biggest was security. The age of the old software also meant no server updates for certain programs. There are many benefits to the new software, one of the biggest is the mobile functionality. Ill fix up some stuff in the coming days, we'll also try to get some of the old addons back or the data imported back into the site like the garage. To create a thread or to reply with a post is basically the same as it was in the prior software. The default style of the site is light colored, but i temporarily added a darker colored style, to change you can find a link at the bottom of the site.

Standalone GPS necessary?

One disadvantage of the newer Spyders' system is that you now need a smartphone, with all the monthly $$ charges that come with them.

Yes, I have a cell phone -- a cheap, basic flip phone. My wife made me buy it in case I break down somewheres. I'm not interested in having a smartphone. I've looked into them, and for my rather unconnected lifestyle, I don't need anything they offer.

So if I bought a newer Spyder and wanted to use the on-board GPS display, I'd need to invest in a smartphone and go to school on how to use that gizmo. Too steep of a learning curve to be worth the effort, IMO, for a single application. If I want GPS on my bike, It would be far easier to grab the Garmin out of my car. But I prefer paper maps.
 
Then don’t buy a limited. Also, don’t buy any of the newer cars that have Apple Play. What with today’s technology, not keeping up with it means you miss out on a lot of new things.
 
One disadvantage of the newer Spyders' system is that you now need a smartphone, with all the monthly $$ charges that come with them.

Yes, I have a cell phone -- a cheap, basic flip phone. My wife made me buy it in case I break down somewheres. I'm not interested in having a smartphone. I've looked into them, and for my rather unconnected lifestyle, I don't need anything they offer.

So if I bought a newer Spyder and wanted to use the on-board GPS display, I'd need to invest in a smartphone and go to school on how to use that gizmo. Too steep of a learning curve to be worth the effort, IMO, for a single application. If I want GPS on my bike, It would be far easier to grab the Garmin out of my car. But I prefer paper maps.

Heh..

Most folks *already* have a smartphone, so it's one less Garmin to buy. The Spyder-owning luddite is an outlier...
 
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