Spyder Fires

[oldguyinTX]

Not for nothing, but with the posts that I see about Spyders heat issues, gas fumes, and fires, I find it odd that if you go the the NHTSA website and look at the complaints about Spyder RT's, not one of them references a fire or burn injuries. Without flooding them with complaints, they will not do anything to make BRP seriously address this issue other than saying "don't over fill the gas tank". Classic case of blaming the consumer for a manufacturer's shortcomings. Any thoughts?

 

[Bob Denman]

As much as I hate to see the government involved in anything more than blaming each other for everything... :agree: with you.
Give NHTSA the honest facts surrounding an occurrence, and if they see a trend; they'll jump all over it.
Personally :shocked:; I hope that very little is found, that can be blamed on BRP...
... Would you want them "pulling the plug", on production of these bikes? :yikes:

 

[oldguyinTX]

As much as I hate to see the government involved in anything more than blaming each other for everything... :agree: with you.
Give NHTSA the honest facts surrounding an occurrence, and if they see a trend; they'll jump all over it.
Personally :shocked:; I hope that very little is found, that can be blamed on BRP...
... Would you want them "pulling the plug", on production of these bikes? :yikes:

Not necessarily "pull the plug", but put pressure on BRP to get serious and do something realistic about these issues instead of saying that they are normal. Sooner or later, someone is going to die from a fire on a Spyder. Is that normal? NHTSA allows all manufacturers to police themselves to a great extent. If the public doesn't make noise about issues, NHTSA takes the manufacture's word (or silence) about them. Look at how GM duped them for 10 years over the ignition switch issue. So far there are only 19 complaints about these issues (one is mine) on the NHTSA website, which in my humble opinion is pitiful. I have seen a heck of a lot more on this forum than that. Don't people care about their safety? My wife and I love our Spyder, and ride it as often as we can. We just hope that we do not end up being a statistic someday.

 

[woolfski1713]

Not for nothing, but with the posts that I see about Spyders heat issues, gas fumes, and fires, I find it odd that if you go the the NHTSA website and look at the complaints about Spyder RT's, not one of them references a fire or burn injuries. Without flooding them with complaints, they will not do anything to make BRP seriously address this issue other than saying "don't over fill the gas tank". Classic case of blaming the consumer for a manufacturer's shortcomings. Any thoughts?

Couldn't agree more..... Make some noise and get the grease....

 

[SpyderAnn01]

I filed a report after my fire. It is under 2013 CanAm Spyder with no model name specified and it shows that it was a fire

 

[Chupaca]

Here's the thing..!!

As much as you hear here there have been relatively few such incedents. Some were brp's units so they will not complain, some have been customers fault. The heat issue is serious and there should be more complaints made but many have opted to work on their own solutions. Brp has made changes, recalls and updates and now that summer is near this heat issue will crop up once again...I do see customer solution working now brp could use some of those to help cure the ill's....

 

[oldguyinTX]

I filed a report after my fire. It is under 2013 CanAm Spyder with no model name specified and it shows that it was a fire

Thanks, Ann for doing so. Anyone else want to join the party?

 

[Bob Denman]

:shocked: I would think that the "initiation fees", are a bit on the steep side! :yikes:

 

[oldguyinTX]

:shocked: I would think that the "initiation fees", are a bit on the steep side! :yikes:

Only if you buy one.

 

[spydaman60]

take a look at the hot seat gm is in right now. don't you think brp would be in the same place if they knowingly disregarded an issue??????nojoke

 

[Vrooom]

Yes!

I filed a report after my fire. It is under 2013 CanAm Spyder with no model name specified and it shows that it was a fire

:yes: Taking the time to report is an important step to take for initiating consumer awareness and manufacturing responsibility. Thank you

 

[ARtraveler]

I would file a complaint with any type of vehicle if I was involved in a fire or vehicle defect issue. Happily, I don't have to go there at this time.

 

[oldguyinTX]

take a look at the hot seat gm is in right now. don't you think brp would be in the same place if they knowingly disregarded an issue??????nojoke

The biggest issue right now for GM is that they knowingly concealed the ignition switch issue from the feds not just for 10 years, but also during their bankruptcy proceedings while taking our tax dollars in a bailout. The Justice Department tends to frown on that, and charges may (or may not) be forthcoming. Not to mention wrongful death lawsuits by the families of those killed. So to me, the question is, is BRP knowingly concealing serious safety issues, or are they just incompetent, can't figure out and come up with a permanent fix, or don't have a big enough Band-Aid? Think about it the next time you fly on a Bombardier regional jet. :yikes:

 

[Bob Denman]

BRP is a completely separate entity from Bombardier... :shocked:

 

[flamingobabe]

I have 3 complaints with NHTSA...not one a fire....but I put money on the fact that Mark finds things wrong with my ST and he fixes it....just yesterday he found a tail light not wired properly....he just fixed it.....happens all the time ...this ST was put together so sloppy.....from day one that we took off the panels...we have found problems...but we are putting accessories on it...we are hoping for the best

 

[oldguyinTX]

BRP is a completely separate entity from Bombardier... :shocked:

True, to a point. Bombardier makes planes & trains, BRP makes other stuff, but they both sprung from the same corporate womb. But, BRP also makes Rotax aircraft engines that are not too dissimilar from the engines in Spyders. So far, I have not heard of their plane engines spontaneously combusting, and by all accounts they are very reliable. So, if they can make a safe, reliable engine for aircraft, why not for Spyders? Also, Ski-doos and Sea-doos use Rotax engines as well, but when was the last time anyone heard about one of them burning up.? They are enclosed in Tupperware, just like the Spyder. Maybe being used in snow and/or water helps keep them cool.

 

[SpyderAnn01]

Since the recall on the 2013 I know of one more fire that was reported on Facebook. It happened on Christmas Day and somehow it never made it to Spyderlovers. The owner had NOT had the recall work done.

I think that it is your duty to report safety issues to NHTSA!

 

[oldguyinTX]

Since the recall on the 2013 I know of one more fire that was reported on Facebook. It happened on Christmas Day and somehow it never made it to Spyderlovers. The owner had NOT had the recall work done.

I think that it is your duty to report safety issues to NHTSA!

:agree: It's the only way anything will get done. BTW, I had the recall work done last summer, and the 2013-9 Warranty Campaign work done last month when I took the RT out of winter storage. IMPERATIVE that owners get this work done!!

 

[Bob Denman]

:agree: If the warranty work isn't done, and you have a fire... what do you think BRP will say to you??? :shocked:
:lecturef_smilie: You'd have nobody to blame, but yourself...

 

[Mets79ST2013]

I just did filed a complain regarding the heat and other stuff going on with my bike, the law firm that I work at is also taking notes regarding what is going on with the bikes, very soon things will be moving forward with a Class action against BRP.....