Software Update Poll- Please vote

[ataDude]

Better be careful with a full synthetic oil it will cause clutch slippedge.

Not really. As long as the "Energy Conserving" additives are not there... see the packaging... it is fine. Also, according to BRP, use something less than an "SM" rating... such as SJ or lower.

Amsoil makes it as well as others. I just found some Mobil 1 in gallon jugs in 10-40 weight that meets both of the criteria above.

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[NancysToy]

Better be careful with a full synthetic oil it will cause clutch slippedge.

Not really. As long as the "Energy Conserving" additives are not there... see the packaging... it is fine. Also, according to BRP, use something less than an "SM" rating... such as SJ or lower.

Amsoil makes it as well as others. I just found some Mobil 1 in gallon jugs in 10-40 weight that meets both of the criteria above.

I agree with Atadude, just because it is full synthetic does not mean it will cause clutch slippage. There are a number of accepatble full synthetic oils...some made specifically for motorcycle use. BRP still specifies full synthetic, even though they no longer sell it. Biggest problem is finding the correct viscosity in the oil you choose. For some, the API rating differs between weights. For instance with Castrol Syntec, 5W-40 meets the BRP spec, but 10W-40 carries an SM rating and will probably cause clutch slippage.

 

[rudolph]

update

16000 km update done runs good cooler maybe slitly less power but still happy

 

[Degaman]

Haven't checked in on this website for quite some time now. Have been waiting until my 6000 mile service before I have the software update performed. Just called to make an appointment and was told I should wait until they received the wire for the shifting fix later this week.

It seems that some people that were experiencing problems have had those problems rectified, and some people whose machines were fine before, are now less than stellar.

Hopefully, since mine has had backfiring issues, steering problems, and shifting problems, the 'fixes' will do what they are supposed to accomplish. It would be nice if my ride was performing well for the 'Spyders in the Smokies' trip.

 

[Lamonster]

Haven't checked in on this website for quite some time now. Have been waiting until my 6000 mile service before I have the software update performed. Just called to make an appointment and was told I should wait until they received the wire for the shifting fix later this week.

It seems that some people that were experiencing problems have had those problems rectified, and some people whose machines were fine before, are now less than stellar.

Hopefully, since mine has had backfiring issues, steering problems, and shifting problems, the 'fixes' will do what they are supposed to accomplish. It would be nice if my ride was performing well for the 'Spyders in the Smokies' trip.

The good news is it doesn't sound like it can get any worst. :shocked:

 

[BajaRon]

Better be careful with a full synthetic oil it will cause clutch slippedge.

I run AmsOil full synthetic in my Spyder, M109R, Valkyrie, and never had the clutch slip no matter how hard I rode it.

You have to be careful when talking to anyone that has something to sell (or someone that has talked to such a person).

It is amazing how only what the seller carries will work for you and everything else will blow up your ride!

 

[Putt-Putt]

My personal experience with full synthetic.
1. ruined the clutch in 1100 Suzuki
2. " " " " 300 Honda

Also Shell Rottella 5/40 syn. has a SM rating but does NOT have th friction modifiers added.
I was told this by the Shell co.. And Iv'e been using it sice my first oil change with no problems.

So with that who's to believe what? :dontknow:

 

[bjt]

My personal experience with full synthetic.
1. ruined the clutch in 1100 Suzuki
2. " " " " 300 Honda

Just curious, who's full synthetic were you using on the two bikes with ruined clutches?

 

[Putt-Putt]

I don't remember what brand as it was years ago. But I had to put new clutchs as they slipped very bad. And cleaning them didn't help. And the bike dealer also said that this would happen and it did.

 

[NancysToy]

Just curious, who's full synthetic were you using on the two bikes with ruined clutches?

I don't remember what brand as it was years ago. But I had to put new clutches as they slipped very bad. And cleaning them didn't help. And the bike dealer also said that this would happen and it did.

I can see this happening fairly readily. The clutch material, size, and spring rate is designed for a certain type of fluid in a wet clutch. Full synthetic oils is very slippery in comparison to dino oils. If the clutch material was designed with petroleum oil in mind, and a synthetic was used, the clutch could, indeed, slip. Once the slip, they are usually ruined. One good reason I run only dino oils in vintage bikes.

 

[Trumpybob]

Better be careful with a full synthetic oil it will cause clutch slippedge.

There are heaps of fully synthetic oils out there made specifically for motorbikes with wet clutches. Indeed, BRPs first recomended oil for the Spyder (see page 82 of owners manual) was fully synthetic (and still is). If you use synthetic oil made for autos then you will be in trouble. I have used fully synthetic in both my Triumphs with no sign of slippage. Thanks for your concern, but I think it is unfounded.

 

[Putt-Putt]

It was several years ago way before they made syn. oil especially for motorcycles. My question is - is syn. oil made for motorcycles Really a true syn. oil, or a blend. I tend to lean to a blend; Which is just A partial synthetic oil.

 

[ataDude]

OK... I finally had mine done this morning and I'm in the "no better, no worse" category. I did NOT turn off the JuiceBox or prepare in any way. On the JB settings that matter, I'm at 7,7,2 and 2.

Didn't notice any steering differences or "running lean" condition. So... I'm kind of siding with the folks who say the dealer makes a difference.

Mine is Richardson Motorsports in Richardson and their techs are pretty darn good.

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[TJ_Spyder]

Running ruff. Hesitation, Surging. Love the way you try to help us all out Thank's

Ditto at high temps (4 bars plus) and low to mid RPMs.


Update: Did the Lamonster fix (pinched off the purge valve hose) and ran the bleep out of it last night. Running like a champ for Smokies trip!

 

[Spydr in KS]

Some members here don't actually have Spyders, just considering them. Others of us have not had the recall update done.

So Scotty, have you had the update done yet? I have searched for an opinion from you, BJT and DLTANGopcorn:opcorn:

 

[Questions]

hyea:Mine runs better and love it Bagman

I'm trying to get an idea on how many SpyderLovers have had issues after the update and how many are happy after the update. Please vote on this post and I will send it to BRP when we have a good number of votes. Maybe they can tell me what you need to do if your Spyder is not happy with the update. :dontknow:

Please don't vote if you have not had the update. I like to get an honest report to send to BRP. Thanks

 

[dltang]

So Scotty, have you had the update done yet? I have searched for an opinion from you, BJT and DLTANGopcorn:opcorn:

update done here with no problem. After BJT had his update they discovered a bad DPS and he had to have it replaced. Just this week his spyder started sputtering and popping which it never did before. Not sure if that is due to the update or some bad gas. I will let him chime in with his own experience. I too have switched gas, my spyder was really backfiring and popping a lot but it did that sometime before the update too. I decided not to use Speedway gas for a while and to try premium. I have been using Shell which does not say 10% ethanol anywhere on the tank and Speedway does. My mileage seems to be the same or close but my spyder is running considerably better. Not sure if it it just the switch from Speedway to Shell, reg to premium or ethanol to no ethanol. I will have to play with it a bit. Also, bjt just did the "canisterectomy" on both spyders this morning.

Back to your basic question though, I did my update and noticed some better steering and no new problems with my spyder. Any running issues I had, I already had. So the update was just fine. Of course, I had my GPS replaced previously and was one of the first ones that helped them to look into this whole steering issue.

 

[NancysToy]

So Scotty, have you had the update done yet? I have searched for an opinion from you, BJT and DLTANGopcorn:opcorn:

No update here yet. Couldn't schedule it before my surgery, and now can't ride for 4-6 weeks or so. Nancy too busy playing nurse to me and being back at work (teacher). Hopefully before the snow flies we will be able to do it.

 

[Spydr in KS]

No update here yet. Couldn't schedule it before my surgery, and now can't ride for 4-6 weeks or so. Nancy too busy playing nurse to me and being back at work (teacher). Hopefully before the snow flies we will be able to do it.

Thanks, feel better. Hope you get to ride before the snow flies.

I have been off the Syder due to work and family for a while. Think I'll go ahead and get the update done this week.

 

[Spydr in KS]

Not sure if that is due to the update or some bad gas.

You know, I swear my Spyder runs better when I run Iso-Heet fuel antifreeze and water remover. I stopped using using it last spring and just puts some back in a tankful.