Should Bicyclist Pay??

[Saluda]

Can't agree to a bicycle tax or registration or insurance

We own pedal bikes but mostly ride off road, why should we pay ? On road is a pain dodging the same bad drivers that concern us while on the Spyder.
Pedal bikes cause no road surface wear, people are trying to stay fit which in the long run aids health plans. They do not contribute to pollution and their owners are over paying all the same taxes the rest of us are.
Are we going to suggest taxing wheel chairs next for their access ramps and modified sidewalks (no, I'm not suggesting that) ? Doesn't the government provide anything anymore with out a specific tax to fund it ?
Just what our government needs, more suggestions on how to tax their citizens from the people themselves.
We build roads for foreign countries but can't provide a few feet of bike path at home ?
You guys missed canoes and kayaks. No motor either but what about the docks and landings we use ?

 

[SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN]

If there are special lanes created for bikes to ride safe then yes they should pay

 

[Saluda]

Those "special lanes" do not assure safety. Many states already have laws requiring minimum passing distances from bicyclists that are not conformed to.
Using that mentality make every road a toll road ?

 

[SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN]

Those "special lanes" do not assure safety.

no more then any other vehicle on the road

 

[Saluda]

As a Spyder rider you should at least realize that bicyclists are most vulnerable to injury.

 

[DJFaninTN]

maybe you agree? maybe you disagree??? it was just a question that was brought up to me by a friend who had been traveling around the country for some time.

his point was .. these just aren't a stripe on the asphalt saying bike lane. they are architect planed, massive construction and landscaped so they are not cheap. he was asking shouldn't the biker's help pay for some of this?

this was one of his examples to me.

 

[AY4B]

No New Taxes. & I dont ride a bike. I will make an exception for areas like NYC where bikes are a tool used in commerce, but for recreational use, No.

 

[Saluda]

To me that picture is a little over kill ? Not the basis for my opinion riding Maine, NH & MA.
That said I'm still against specific user fees (tax) because I feel it opens the door to too many additional fees.
Paying to visit our national parks ? Where does it stop. Appreciate the clarification.

 

[SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN]

nyc is very dangerous for bikes, mc, cars, pedestrians, cats, dogs, raccoons everything but criminals

 

[Saluda]

I'm surprised a big city has room for that. If it catches on it could help the city in a lot of areas.
Too many trips to Boston where I see one car, one person and way too much traffic.

 

[pitzerwm]

The governments are broke and we are the only source of revenue, so they will tax everything eventually.

 

[Saluda]

You mean they aren't now ? How about spending kept at home and doing it efficiently ?

 

[Orange Spyder Man]

We own pedal bikes but mostly ride off road, why should we pay ? On road is a pain dodging the same bad drivers that concern us while on the Spyder.
Pedal bikes cause no road surface wear, people are trying to stay fit which in the long run aids health plans. They do not contribute to pollution and their owners are over paying all the same taxes the rest of us are.
Are we going to suggest taxing wheel chairs next for their access ramps and modified sidewalks (no, I'm not suggesting that) ? Doesn't the government provide anything anymore with out a specific tax to fund it ?
Just what our government needs, more suggestions on how to tax their citizens from the people themselves.
We build roads for foreign countries but can't provide a few feet of bike path at home ?
You guys missed canoes and kayaks. No motor either but what about the docks and landings we use ?

Do you think cars/trucks & motorcycles should pay for improvements (marking bike lanes, paving special lanes, signs that state "for bicycles only" ?

osm

 

[wyliec]

Do you think cars/trucks & motorcycles should pay for improvements (marking bike lanes, paving special lanes, signs that state "for bicycles only" ?

osm

Do you actually know where every cent of your tax dollars/paid fees go? What you said also applies (and I said this above) to handicap parking lot markings, handicap signs, and handicap ease of access to state/federal buildings and parks. Since those things don't bother me, it also doesn't bother me to have less pollution on the road, while allowing those who desire biking for transportation, and relaxation or exercise. So, my answer is yes to your question.

 

[Saluda]

So, my answer is yes to your question.

Ditto.

 

[Peter Aawen]

Do bicyclists use the roads?
Do other road users hafta pay rego/taxes? (I've seen the Amish horse buggies sporting rego plates!)
Do bicyclists sometimes disobey road rules & need to be identified?
Do you hafta pay rego/taxes for each & every motor vehicle you drive/use on the road?
Is it unfair & unjust that one segment of the road using community can demand all the rights & privileges of using the roads (& often get granted a helluva lot more than that) at the expense of all other 'registered' road users AND get away scott free with breaking road rules & creating rolling obstructions for everyone else simply because they cannot be clearly identified after the fact & required/reminded to do the right thing?

Well then, there's your answer...... YES!! To all those questions AND to the OP's question...
Seems like a No-brainer to me that the no-brain idiots in the governments of your country & mine have completely ignored for all the wrong reasons!

Btw, I'm sure there are a lot more questions like this that could be applicable, but you get the drift.... And yeah, I'm sure that some consideration could be given for the lesser impact bicyclists have, but the registration thing should be a given; & yeah, I'm sure some consideration needs to be made for kids & their bikes - but hey, I'd be much happier knowing that if my kid or anyone else's got smashed by a drunk driving a car while said kid was out riding his bike, the paramedics could look at the bike rego plate & identify who to contact quickly! Similarly for my spouse, parents, relatives, in fact, anyone riding/driving anything on the roads.....

 

[wyliec]

Identification is not based on to whom the vehicle is registered, when there is an accident, death or some traffic infraction. Anyone could be driving the vehicle. You'd really have to be a NO-BRAINER to contact the family based on whom the vehicle is registered to, and tell them their family member was in an accident.

 

[Peter Aawen]

I'm pretty sure that I wrote '...could look at the rego plate & identify who to contact quickly...' In the event of an accident??? And (at least in the country I live in) having a registration ID is considered a good place to start - and I suspect in most countries the rego almost always provides the first point of contact in trying to identify the rider/driver in the event of an accident & you can't find any ID on them..... Not many paramedics or LEO's are stupid enough to just ring the registered owner & say "your kids bike has been involved in an accident, so your kid must be the dead rider we've got here" without first making some attempt to ascertain who was actually on the bike at the time of the accident, but the registered owner is still the first point of contact.

And if any rider/driver breaks the law &/or causes an accident and flees the scene, having a rego number that can be used to track them down is a tad handy, something that's just not possible if there is no rego label. In fact, here in Aus you can be issued a speeding citation (& a few others too) based purely upon certain evidence showing the rego details, & it is up to the registered owner to clearly identify the driver/rider if not themselves or to show the vehicle was no longer in their possession....

ALL road users should display a valid registration plate.

 

[SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN]

Do you actually know where every cent of your tax dollars/paid fees go? What you said also applies (and I said this above) to handicap parking lot markings, handicap signs, and handicap ease of access to state/federal buildings and parks. Since those things don't bother me, it also doesn't bother me to have less pollution on the road, while allowing those who desire biking for transportation, and relaxation or exercise. So, my answer is yes to your question.

yes, it goes to city, state, government union workers, corrupt politicians which means ALL politicians. illegals and
criminals which heavily overlap.
a simple fix to raise money is tax churches & temples, i think it is said all of those kind of corporations have about
$600 billion that isn't taxed, yes the reverend will no longer be able to have a porsche or jaguar and may have to
down size his lear jet, can't afford hush money for his mistress and will not be able to pay off the parents of the children.