998cc Shifting help

[pegasus1300]

Thanks B. MY general riding mode is to shift at 6000 and cruise between 4500 and 5000. I hold my hand steady when shifting. There is something going on but it may have to wait till spring for me to spend enough time on it to figure it out.

 

[Snowbelt Spyder]

Thanks B. MY general riding mode is to shift at 6000 and cruise between 4500 and 5000. I hold my hand steady when shifting. There is something going on but it may have to wait till spring for me to spend enough time on it to figure it out.

When you installed the new arm, if you lined up the dot that is at the end of the shaft, with the slot in the arm, then you have it at the right place. You then have freedom of movement in both directions. The manual transmission shifts by using that same shaft and we don't hear of problems. The foot shifter arm takes all that pounding just fine. So, it would seem like it's just a materials situation with the arm on the SE5 transmission. The gearbox is a standard motorcycle gearbox, the gears are meshed, so I don’t think it’s anything you’re doing.

Somebody, and I thought it was you, had drilled out the threads in the arm so that they could use a longer bolt and nut configuration to squeeze it together better. Even then, it's still hard to squeeze tighter because, despite there being that slot in it, the arm is solid all the way around. I was hoping by now that some enterprising person would have developed a redesigned one, similar to the windshield arm effort, that could pinch the shaft better. Some drag racer probably has just the thing in their spare parts box, used for a blower linkage.

Anyway, hope you get to feeling better over the winter. Stay warm.

 

[pegasus1300]

Yes Doug that was me. The arm is quite stiff and really is not going be squeezed very much at all. In putting the nut on the screw I was more concerned with keeping the screw tight as I think it is more of a keeper then a squeezer. The dot and the slot are lined up, Iwas just wondering if in all the messing around with taking the electronic shifter if maybe the travel hadn't been messed up? I'm going to drive it around for awhile today and see what happens. Thank you and others for your help.

 

[Snowbelt Spyder]

Today I was looking at the parts diagram for the arm used on the sm5. The bolt is at the end of the arm vice in the middle. It can get a better squeeze that way, and is more like a conventional linkage arm in that respect. That would result in less or no movement between the two parts and less wear. I’m going to have to ask my guy if it could be somehow modified to work on the SE5. Take some measurements. Outside of my lane. Winter project. C ya.

 

[pegasus1300]

I have a couple of ruined arms I am going to see if I can do something to make it more squeezable so it will clamp tighter. Good luck with your project.

 

[pegasus1300]

SO to continue the saga of the ruined shift arms, I have been reviewing my experience over the last 2 years with this shift arm business. I replaced the 1st one at 55,000 miles (approx) on the way home from 2019 Deadwood 3 Wheeler Rally. It stopped shifting in Rawlins , I nursed it to Green River where my wife met me with a trailer and I hauled it home. New shift arm all is well until a Patriot Guard mission in Vernal and on the way home the Stator goes out. Again I Nurse it home and finally take it to a dealer to replace the Stator. They miss indexed the shift arm when putting the Spyder back together and that caused it to self destruct, which they covered. Now we come to the current situation. I laid a new cement pad behind the old milking shed which is in an overgrown field. I am using that as my workspace now instead of the driveway. I cannot see the ground because of the overgrowth, on my way out I ran over hidden log. I thought nothing more of it until I was taking body parts off for the oil change and found the lower black skirt broken. I now realize that the broken skirt was telling me that the log also hit the shift arm and smacked it hard enough damage the splines and cause me trouble a little later down the line. If you are still with me I am pretty sure that this is the reason for the demise of the 3rd shift lever, personal stupidity.Thanks for bearing with me thru this tale of woe. I assisted in another Patriot Guard mission today and then road an additional 100 mi. and the Spyder shifted flawlessly the whole time. Time will tell if my analysis is right.