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Searching for an RT / RTS - 2013 or 2014

dealer quote

I assume the 21500 is for a sm6 and the 22500 might be the se6?



$21,500 is for a 2014 RT SE6

I went to Cross Bay Motorsports to leave my deposit. The owner was not in but left detailed notes of what we spoke about over the phone.

21500 includes freight, prep,
taxes and DMV are additional.
 
I just hung up with Pit Bull in MO. Here are the options-

2013 RT Limited 700 miles, just traded in towards a 14'. $21,900
2014 RT $23,500

I spoke to another dealer in NJ. They said $22,800 is the lowest on the 2014 RT.


I'm going to stop by the dealer tonight that told me to leave a deposit for the 14' RT for $21,500. I'll keep you all updated.

You may also want to try Blackmans Cycle Center in Emmaus, PA (near Allentown). Great service department.
 
$21,500 is for a 2014 RT SE6

I went to Cross Bay Motorsports to leave my deposit. The owner was not in but left detailed notes of what we spoke about over the phone.

21500 includes freight, prep,
taxes and DMV are additional.

RT not RT s correct?
 
Your best bet is to do your own research and read the reviews that are out there. I have not read one review that says that the 2014 is a huge improvement over a 2013. Another review even went as far to say that the larger engine was nothing more than a nominal improvement. For the most part, the chassis is the same. It sounds like a draw to me. I think a test drive would be the best way to see what works for the buyer. You can't go wrong with either.
 
Your best bet is to do your own research and read the reviews that are out there. I have not read one review that says that the 2014 is a huge improvement over a 2013. Another review even went as far to say that the larger engine was nothing more than a nominal improvement. For the most part, the chassis is the same. It sounds like a draw to me. I think a test drive would be the best way to see what works for the buyer. You can't go wrong with either.
I'd LOVE to know what a "significant Improvement", would feel like... :D
That guy didn't ride one...no way!
The engine was only one; of many improvements! :2thumbs:


You ARE correct though: either bike is a great choice! :thumbup: nojoke
 
Your best bet is to do your own research and read the reviews that are out there. I have not read one review that says that the 2014 is a huge improvement over a 2013. Another review even went as far to say that the larger engine was nothing more than a nominal improvement. For the most part, the chassis is the same. It sounds like a draw to me. I think a test drive would be the best way to see what works for the buyer. You can't go wrong with either.

Beg to differ here. Most reviews I have read (on the site) seem to be very positive about the 2014 vs. other years. New and bigger engine, improved gear ratios, six speed tranny, improved cooling system.

Seems to me that most suggestions in this post encourage the OP to test and make the choice based on what they like best.
 
I have a 2014 RT se6 in Florida with no upgrades. I also have a 2012 RTL in PA with baja ron swYbar and bumpskid. The engine and trans of the 14 is far better than the 12. Handling would go to the 12. I have a feeling a swaybar is in the 14's future. I just need to figure out how to raise it the required height to do the job. Might have to pay service to get it done
 
I'd LOVE to know what a "significant Improvement", would feel like... :D
That guy didn't ride one...no way!

Beg to differ here. Most reviews I have read (on the site) seem to be very positive about the 2014 vs. other years. New and bigger engine, improved gear ratios, six speed tranny, improved cooling system.

The engine and trans of the 14 is far better than the 12. Handling would go to the 12.

I am not trying to stir the pot here. Last fall, before sinking big money into my 2013, I did consider buying a 2014. Here are the reviews and the quotes that changed my mind. I have seen similar statements from other online reviews and even owners from this forum. I am not saying the 2014 is bad in any way. I personally think that BRP should have made it a 1600 or 1800 like the 2-wheeled competition. If they did, then the true difference in power would be much more significant. Remember, I did not write these reviews, I am just posting quotes. Interpret them anyway you want.


http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/97/17036/Motorcycle-Article/2014-Can-Am-Spyder-RT-First-Ride.aspx


"According to Can-Am, the more touring friendly mill puts out 40% more low-end torque, but at the throttle, the initial surge isn’t that much more pronounced than the V-Twin."


"While we expected the extra 332cc of the Inline Triple to really get the ball rolling, our seat-of-the-pants impressions say it’s incrementally more powerful than the V-Twin, predominantly in the mid-range rpm we mentioned. This is due in part because the new powerplant added 57 pounds according to Spyder spec sheets, so the power-to-weight ratio hasn’t changed much."




http://www.ridermagazine.com/top-stories/2014-can-am-spyder-rt-first-ride-review.htm/


"Can-Am says it makes 96 lb-ft of torque vs. 80 in the V-twin, and 115 horsepower vs. 100. Not exactly eyeball-flattening in a machine that weighs a claimed 1,012 pounds dry—about 60 pounds more than the 2013 RT"


"While roll-on testing back-to-back with a 2013 RT V-twin at the 2014 launch last week in Florida showed the new RT triple is not appreciably quicker at lower speeds, BRP Project Leader Michael Tissier said the goal was to improve roll-on acceleration from 80-120 kph, or 50-75 mph, and there it does feel stronger and less busy than the revvier twin."
 
Let's talk about the engines first...
The 998 and the 1330 are both great; but they go about their jobs in completely different ways...
The Twin is a revver, and the triple; a torquer.
Keep them in the rpm range that makes them happy, and there's very little to complain about. :D
The trick to this: the triple makes it's power down nice and low; it's easier and more comfortable to keep an engine down in that rpm range.
Face it it; the twin needs to be revved; 55 mph is just about the practical bottom-end of the powerband if you're in 5th gear.
The triple can easily use 6th gear as low as 40 mph.
that's a much more relaxed way to ride.

The transmission:
The 6 speed is MUCH smoother, and the new hydraulic lock-up makes toasting clutch plates a tough chore!
Electricals:
Two choices here...
a 650 watt magneto, or a 1200 watt alternator...
No contest!
Cooling sytems...
Well; with double the capacity, and the ability to push the air forward at low speeds; the only downside I see, is that those radiators will probably collect some trash off the roadways...
They don't actually weigh only 60 pounds more; it's more like 100 if you compare a 2014 Limited, to a 2013 base RT...
 
Let's talk about the engines first...
The 998 and the 1330 are both great; but they go about their jobs in completely different ways...
The Twin is a revver, and the triple; a torquer.
Keep them in the rpm range that makes them happy, and there's very little to complain about. :D
The trick to this: the triple makes it's power down nice and low; it's easier and more comfortable to keep an engine down in that rpm range.
Face it it; the twin needs to be revved; 55 mph is just about the practical bottom-end of the powerband if you're in 5th gear.
The triple can easily use 6th gear as low as 40 mph.
that's a much more relaxed way to ride.

The transmission:
The 6 speed is MUCH smoother, and the new hydraulic lock-up makes toasting clutch plates a tough chore!
Electricals:
Two choices here...
a 650 watt magneto, or a 1200 watt alternator...
No contest!
Cooling sytems...
Well; with double the capacity, and the ability to push the air forward at low speeds; the only downside I see, is that those radiators will probably collect some trash off the roadways...
They don't actually weigh only 60 pounds more; it's more like 100 if you compare a 2014 Limited, to a 2013 base RT...

This is exactly why people need to do their research and determine which bike fits their needs. Neither is a lemon, but they do have different personalities. The HP difference is not huge between the two engines, but I think the 1330 is better suited if you're pulling a trailer or like lugging your motor due to the increased torque. If you like riding an engine in the upper RPM range, then the 998 will do what you need no problem at all and the increased displacement advantage of the 1330 is more or less gone.

I can't speak to the smoothness of the transmissoin because I am running the manual as opposed to the semi-automatic. It is only as smooth as I am competent with the clutching and shifting. The electrical has added capacity, but for some people (like myself), adds no value as they don't even use what they have. Lastly, due to the same chassis, the 2013 and 2014 are more like brothers rather than cousins. Again no losers here.
 
:agree: the 2013's handling is certainly no weak point...
My 2010 with Elkas and RonBar in place was just about on an equal par with the new chassis; but it was a bit "stiffer"...
That's why I'm having so much trouble in trying to decide if the RonBar is necessary on the new bike... :opps: :dontknow:
 
I can't thank you all enough for all of your help. I wish the dealers helped this much. All dealers denied a demo due to ' liability '.

I left a deposit and have in writing $21,500 for a 2014 rt se6.

The dealer that has the 13' rt wants 19k plus 800 for freight and prep. On top of this, they don't call me back.

The dealers out of state are much more friendly. I'm hoping the dealer I have the deposit with will actually pull through with their agreement because another dealer told me they couldn't get 2014 rt's right now.





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