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Safety Card

Does it match the same contour of the safety card? I was looking at these, but if it didnt cover the current safety card sticker then I didnt want it. Or did you remove your stock sticker first?

To those who have removed it, is it one of those "comes off in little bits" type stickers that takes like 4 days to remove? Thanks :thumbup:

Here is a picture of my new safety card. I picked the sticker up on ebay it was a two pack for $3.79 and free shipping (it came quick too). http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180520810059&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT

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Safety warning will not appear if you start your RT within 2-3 minutes after sutting it off. Just need to ride more often and take shorter breaks.:roflblack::roflblack:
 
Gentlemen, please explain this "read before start" thing. It seems you get a safety message and you must do something before you can start your Spyder. My Wing has a short sequence it goes through before you can start...maybe 1 or 2 seconds.

You mentioned you turn on the key, then put on your helmet andby then it is ready to go after a few seconds? Pull out a card? Sticker? Your help on this, please.

Signed the order for my red RT-S SE5 on Jan. 24 and am trying to learn as much as I can from you folks about this machine....it sure ain't my like my washing machine engine powered scooter I had in 1948....with the metal plate rubbing the rear wheel for braking.
 
The Spyders (I guess) run a computerized self-diagnostic before they let you fire them up. It takes "about 10 seconds" from the time you turn the key until you can hit the "Mode" button and then thumb the starter.
I use that time to wiggle the helmet down over my fat head... :ohyea:
 
When you turn the key on, a safety warning notice pops up on the screen. In order to start the machine, you must press the mode button to clear the message and then you are free to hit the start button. Machine will not start until you acknowledge the message. Like I said earlier, take shorter breaks and the message won't appear.:roflblack:
 
Okay, got it. Is this the way.... 1) Get on Spyder. 2) Turn on key. 3) Put on helmet and gloves. (15 seconds) 4) Hit starter. ?? I can live with that. Thanks for the info...
 
Okay, got it. Is this the way.... 1) Get on Spyder. 2) Turn on key. 3) Put on helmet and gloves. (15 seconds) 4) Hit starter. ?? I can live with that. Thanks for the info...

You have to select the "Mode" button after your step 2. However, I don't know if the 9 second bootup starts after turning the key or after the "Mode" button. Can someone chime in on this?
 
You have to select the "Mode" button after your step 2. However, I don't know if the 9 second bootup starts after turning the key or after the "Mode" button. Can someone chime in on this?
1 turn key to on, then after 9 seconds when this displays you can press mode button and then start.

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Followup

I am not concerned about the physical safety card, but rather the electronic message that scrolls across the screen on the GS/RS and appears as a single page on the RT. In February 2008, I glanced at the physical safety card and have not seen it since then. I am well aware that a motorcycle is inherently dangerous – even a motorcycle pretending to be a roadster. This is silliness concocted by the lawyers who have way too much influence at BRP.

On my GS/RS completion of the computer initialization (boot routine) is indicated by the return of the analog gauges to their resting position (zero position). I reflexively and instantaneously hit the mode switch on the left handlebar before the electronic safety message can appear. Before today, I had not seen the electronic message for the better part of three years. I had not removed the message. I had just prevented it from scrolling. I had probably even forgotten why I was hitting the mode switch at start-up. It was a mindless, reflexive action. All was well until I bought a RT.

When the analog gauges return to zero on the RT, the computer initialization is no where near complete. Indeed, it has a long way to go. When boot-up is complete on the RT, the electronic safety message appears as a single screen page (no scrolling). There is no visual cue for when this will happen. There is nothing to trigger my mindless, reflexive hitting of the mode switch (now in a new place). On the RT I cannot make the electronic message appear to go away. This is the source of my frustration.

In other ways, I am beginning to really like the RT.
 
There is nothing you can do to make the message go away. On the RS, as you have found, you can acknowledge the message the very moment it begins to scoll, thus making it appear very briefly...looking as if it doesn't appear at all. On the RT, that is not possible. The best advice I can offer, I'm afraid, is "Don't sweat the small stuff!" If you let this bug you, it certainly will. If you pay no attention, it will become as normal as kicking the tires or turning on the key. It is a small price to pay...and a few seconds of time isn't much, compared to the ride.
 
10x times the code for what? :dontknow: There're basically the same bike. What does the RT do with it's code that the RS can't do? :D
Tunes the radio, changes the iPod song, controls the fly-by-wire throttle, enables reverse, changes the display color after dark, shows the ride level setting, switches to trailer mode (SE), etc., etc., etc. The basics may be the same, but how they are operated and displayed take more code, and all the frills take programming, too.
 
Tunes the radio, changes the iPod song, controls the fly-by-wire throttle, enables reverse, changes the display color after dark, shows the ride level setting, switches to trailer mode (SE), etc., etc., etc. The basics may be the same, but how they are operated and displayed take more code, and all the frills take programming, too.

Funny thing though is that todays cars have all the same technology but you can still start them instantly.
 
Funny thing though is that todays cars have all the same technology but you can still start them instantly.
Blame that on BRP's herd of lawyers! :gaah: Seriously, the booting process does seem slow, compared to automobiles with the same technology. Could be the processor speed, the amount of code (poor programming) or something else, that I don't understand at all. In the end, it is what it is. A few seconds out of anybody's life is no reason to pop a blood vessel.
 
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starting codes.....? bulllllllll Sh!!!!!!!!!ZLE when its time to haul hinny, out of the club house.... all that garbaggggge is THE last thing I'm concerned with. it's time to GO !!! not process......
 
starting codes.....? bulllllllll Sh!!!!!!!!!ZLE when its time to haul hinny, out of the club house.... all that garbaggggge is THE last thing I'm concerned with. it's time to GO !!! not process......
Maybe you had better look for another ride, then. So sorry. :dontknow:
 
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