Ryker turning left Issues

[greer]

Yep. The bike had very few miles on it when this first occurred, so it would seem like a faulty sensor from day one. It's never thrown a code, and the issue is so random I expect it will be difficult for a service tech to recreate. If I were to buy a new sensor and replace it myself I'd be concerned the new one is just as wonky as the one in it.

Sarah

 

[blackphoenix38]

so some updates. I disabled the vss and did some testing. I did not have any issues. Although I did get it up on two wheels. So the issue is 100% the VSS system or sensors involved with that system.

It's currently at my dealer now to look at again. the tech told me he's got 3 other rykers right now in the shop with the same exact issue. He's been back and forth with BRP HQ about it.

It's a platinum dealer and they know me pretty well, he cannot officially tell me anything, but he said without saying that he fully expects a recall on this issue once BRP has a solid fix for it.

 

[DickB]

Disabled VSS? How?

 

[blackphoenix38]

it's an unwritten rule here not to explain how to actually do it. There's a couple different ways, I did the easy route just for testing.

there's enough info out there on how to do it if you search hard enough in the right places.

 

[greer]

so some updates. I disabled the vss and did some testing. I did not have any issues. Although I did get it up on two wheels. So the issue is 100% the VSS system or sensors involved with that system.

It's currently at my dealer now to look at again. the tech told me he's got 3 other rykers right now in the shop with the same exact issue. He's been back and forth with BRP HQ about it.

It's a platinum dealer and they know me pretty well, he cannot officially tell me anything, but he said without saying that he fully expects a recall on this issue once BRP has a solid fix for it.

Good to know, thank you.

Sarah

 

[blackphoenix38]

I got the Ryker back last night. I had a bunch of engine codes pointing to the steering sensor. they would reset it, take it for a ride and when they got back and checked it, it would be off again by a few degrees.

they changed out the bushing on that sensor. Its fine for now, but will be interesting how long it'll last for.

the most interesting part is that my Ryker is now out of warranty, but BRP honored this as a "warranty" repair because it's now become a "known" issue.

I smell a recall coming once they can actually pin down the cause and get an actually fix for the problem. But it does seem like they are trying to figure it out.

 

[greer]

Thank you for keeping us in the loop. I filled out the NHTSA form a while ago, hope everybody does.

Sarah

 

[DickB]

they would reset it, take it for a ride and when they got back and checked it, it would be off again by a few degrees.

Exactly what mine did, AFTER I installed the Steering Update Kit. I had to also replace the SAS to fix.

 

[MarkN]

Same problem with a happy ending (not that kind) so far.
2021 600 with just under 12,000 mi. Dealer was able to replicate it every time but no clue what to do. Sent them a copy of this thread (hope that was ok) which they said was very helpful (thanks everybody). They changed yaw sensor, no change. Installed steering update kit, no change. Changed steering stem bushing, fixed. He said something about the pitman arm bushing had just a touch of slop causing the sas to throw everything off. Only got to ride about 50 mi but it seems ok. The best part? All it cost me was a round trip.
Hope this helps.

 

[greer]

Super helpful! Thank you, MarkN.

Sarah

 

[greer]

MarkN,

Would you have any idea the part number for the steering stem bushing?

https://www.canamoemparts.com/oemparts/a/cam/62a74b38647df38e2c4bea7b/mechanic-steering-column

#70, I'm guessing?

Sarah

 

[MarkN]

Sarah,
That might be the one but the part number is different. They put in #709402919. I have the work order but don’t know how to post it. Hope this helps.

 

[StalkyTracker]

I believe #709401956 (Sarah's #70) is superceded by your #709402919.

https://alloutcycles.com/Shopping/OEM-Parts/can-am/motorcycles/2021/001-ryker-std-600-ace/03-mechanic-steering-column/d134badd-c1cf-4764-b826-0ab35a061446

 

[greer]

Thanks, you two. So the old part number is listed for my 2022, and 709402919 is listed for the '23 and '24 bikes. Hopefully it's an upgraded bushing. My bike has never thrown a code. If you were in my shoes would you buy the bushing and change it yourself, or go to the dealer with the sad story and try to get them to do it? I have the extended warranty.

Sarah

 

[StalkyTracker]

Double checking with the BRP parts catalog confirms the change for 2022 Rykers too.



Don't know your dealer or your relationship with them but if it were me, I'd start there. You have a warranty and you can always do it yourself later. imho

 

[greer]

Well heck. canamoemparts.com lists the old part # for the 19-22 bikes. Thank you, StalkyTracker.

Sarah

 

[MarkN]

Something to think about - If you take it to the dealer and hopefully it’ll be covered 100% like mine was, it’ll get put in the system and maybe BRP will take notice and do something about it and make a whole lot of people happy.

 

[greer]

Yes, you're right, both of you. I'll start with a call to Can Am.

Sarah

 

[greer]

OK, The Can-Am rep gave me a customer service case number and offered help finding a dealer in case I wasn't aware of the options in my area. Once the bike is at the dealer I'm to ask the service tech to contact Can Am Technical Department first thing. I have an appointment with CC Powersports in Louisville next week. I'm going in with with the TSB, part numbers and a pile of notes. Those poor folks will be :gaah:

Sarah

 

[MarkN]

When they did my left turn issue, it was detected right away. The problem was that every time they fixed something, the weather was so bad they couldn’t test it so it took quite awhile. I hope your experience goes as well as mine did.
Hopefully they’ll do the fuel pump recall while it’s there.