Recap of 2014 RT Problems

[coastrider]

Well, I certainly won't be asking for feedback again, as it seems seeking information concerning our Spyders is construed here as an attack on our beautiful, though far from perfect, rides.

I guess I'm used to the Gold Wing forums I've frequented in the past where the exchange of information, both technical and social, was the main focus.

Some of you actually implied that my thread was designed to provide fuel for litigation. Really?

I'm on my third Spyder, and I've barely had this one for two weeks. I believe that proves I'm not a "hater", but I am a rider with over 40 years of experience who takes an interest in the mechanics of his ride and the value received for his money, and I only post when I have something helpful to add or a relevant question to ask. My tone has always been civil and polite. In my opinion some of the threads I've seen recently are tantamount to attacks, thinly veiled though they might be. I'm disappointed by the turn this forum is taking.

 

[Cruzr Joe]

Well, I certainly won't be asking for feedback again, as it seems seeking information concerning our Spyders is construed here as an attack on our beautiful, though far from perfect, rides.

I guess I'm used to the Gold Wing forums I've frequented in the past where the exchange of information, both technical and social, was the main focus.

Some of you actually implied that my thread was designed to provide fuel for litigation. Really?

I'm on my third Spyder, and I've barely had this one for two weeks. I believe that proves I'm not a "hater", but I am a rider with over 40 years of experience who takes an interest in the mechanics of his ride and the value received for his money, and I only post when I have something helpful to add or a relevant question to ask. My tone has always been civil and polite. In my opinion some of the threads I've seen recently are tantamount to attacks, thinly veiled though they might be. I'm disappointed by the turn this forum is taking.

Don't let it upset you, some times we misread a posters intent, it's all good and some support for your thoughts were also posted.

Cruzr Joe

 

[coastrider]

Thanks Joe, but I'm long past the days when anything on the Internet can upset me. I was moved to write my last post because I enjoy a good technical forum, and I love to ride.

I'm saddened to see the decline in civility I've noticed in recent days and puzzled by the reactions to what seemed to me to be completely innocuous questions. Lamont administered the GL1800 board to which I referred in my earlier post, and I'd like to see him weigh in on appropriate decorum for this board.

BTW, I've always noticed that your posts are designed to be both useful and good natured, and for that you have my thanks.

 

[Cruzr Joe]

Thanks Joe, but I'm long past the days when anything on the Internet can upset me. I was moved to write my last post because I enjoy a good technical forum, and I love to ride.

I'm saddened to see the decline in civility I've noticed in recent days and puzzled by the reactions to what seemed to me to be completely innocuous questions. Lamont administered the GL1800 board to which I referred in my earlier post, and I'd like to see him weigh in on appropriate decorum for this board.

BTW, I've always noticed that your posts are designed to be both useful and good natured, and for that you have my thanks.

Thank you ................ But sometime the voices in my head match the ones in Bobs head and i say dumb things.

Post on, all is good

Cruzr Joe

 

[Cruzr Joe]

even that came out wrong ................. I like Bob.

Cruzr Joe

 

[cuznjohn]

joe if you think like bob you need your head examined QUICK

 

[Princeau99]

Only one thing to say

even that came out wrong ................. I like Bob.

Cruzr Joe

 

[Bob Denman]

All I wanted to know, was why the O.P. Wanted the information. I even explained why in a later post...
I'm sorry If you misunderstood my reason for asking...

but I won't apologize for asking a perfectly valid question.

 

[Cruzr Joe]

All I wanted to know, was why the O.P. Wanted the information. I even explained why in a later post...
I'm sorry If you misunderstood my reason for asking...

but I won't apologize for asking a perfectly valid question.

Its all good Bob

Cruzr Joe

 

[Bob Denman]

Well, I certainly won't be asking for feedback again, as it seems seeking information concerning our Spyders is construed here as an attack on our beautiful, though far from perfect, rides.

I guess I'm used to the Gold Wing forums I've frequented in the past where the exchange of information, both technical and social, was the main focus.

Some of you actually implied that my thread was designed to provide fuel for litigation. Really?

I'm on my third Spyder, and I've barely had this one for two weeks. I believe that proves I'm not a "hater", but I am a rider with over 40 years of experience who takes an interest in the mechanics of his ride and the value received for his money, and I only post when I have something helpful to add or a relevant question to ask. My tone has always been civil and polite. In my opinion some of the threads I've seen recently are tantamount to attacks, thinly veiled though they might be. I'm disappointed by the turn this forum is taking.

No; that was me... There's no need to take aim at anybody else in here; it was me.


...and you completely misinterpreted my inquiry...
Grow some thicker hide, and maybe you'll be okay...

 

[coastrider]

Bob, the last thing I want is to get involved in a pissing contest here, but you questioned my motives for asking exactly the type of questions these forums are designed to entertain and then characterized your own questioning of my motives as "perfectly valid". I respectfully point out that you're a fellow board member, not the board administrator, and as such it isn't your function to determine or approve of other posters' motives.

 

[Bob Denman]

But it WOULD make a difference, as to whether or not you'd have gotten an answer...

 

[joebryanjr]

$500 oil change? You need a new dealer. My 3000 mi service was $172. It was $158 for my 2011 RSS.

 

[coastrider]

Not a problem Bob, have a nice evening.

 

[Bob Denman]

:agree: My 2010 cost right around $115, and the new bike is only $20 more... :thumbup:

 

[Jeriatric]

Group beat down

Well, I certainly won't be asking for feedback again, as it seems seeking information concerning our Spyders is construed here as an attack on our beautiful, though far from perfect, rides.

I guess I'm used to the Gold Wing forums I've frequented in the past where the exchange of information, both technical and social, was the main focus.

Some of you actually implied that my thread was designed to provide fuel for litigation. Really?

I'm on my third Spyder, and I've barely had this one for two weeks. I believe that proves I'm not a "hater", but I am a rider with over 40 years of experience who takes an interest in the mechanics of his ride and the value received for his money, and I only post when I have something helpful to add or a relevant question to ask. My tone has always been civil and polite. In my opinion some of the threads I've seen recently are tantamount to attacks, thinly veiled though they might be. I'm disappointed by the turn this forum is taking.

It's a very old practice here. I'd venture to say had the opposite happened concerning problems pre 2014. BRP may have avoided the situation they currently find themselves in.

Don't take it personally or think you are the first. They have done the same to long standing members who have all but disappeared from the site. Unfortunately.

 

[coastrider]

Just as an aside to the earlier discussion, the dealer in Staten Island where I bought my first two Spyders gets $500 for a standard service, as does Xtreme machines here in New Jersey. There aren't any other dealers nearby. To the best of my knowledge, the service consists of an oil change, buds updates, and a look at the belt and fasteners. Is this a regional difference? Who knows?

 

[bikeguy]

Knowing about potential problems lessens the impact of the problem IF it happens to you. I don't see any point in keeping secrets about problems that may or may not occur. I haven't had many with my 2010 RT but I knew about every one of them before they happened because I read about them on Spyderlovers. When my throttle bodies started to act up 200 miles into a 1000 mile round trip to New Mexico, I just kept going because I knew how to deal with the problem. When I got home BRP replaced the throttle body under warranty. When it dumped me into limp mode from 70 mph in a long sweeping curve, I knew what had happened and how to deal with it. When I found a spot of anti-freeze under the RT in the garage, I knew to check the coolant tank for cracks and that was the problem.

I never expected my RT to be perfect. I never owned a motorcycle that was. BRP and my dealer have supported their product better than any company I've ever dealt with but that doesn't mean I won't have problems. So, I'm always glad to see threads that ask questions about Spyders. That's how we learn. Frankly, I ignore some of the threads because there are some riders who would be better off in their air conditioned and heated cages. But I have no problems with threads that ask legitimate questions.

Cotton

 

[Bob Denman]

Just as an aside to the earlier discussion, the dealer in Staten Island where I bought my first two Spyders gets $500 for a standard service, as does Xtreme machines here in New Jersey. There aren't any other dealers nearby. To the best of my knowledge, the service consists of an oil change, buds updates, and a look at the belt and fasteners. Is this a regional difference? Who knows?

I don't know if it's too far of a trip for you...
...But my guy is in Walton, NY
Klinger PowerSports
607 865 6326
Ask to speak with Aaron. :thumbup:

 

[zbunker]

Inspection Sticker not staying attached

tried it i think they have a bad bunch of stickers, i have been through 3 so far

When all else fails you can always try thumb tacks or staples.:joke:
Ron