Recall - 2017-2019 RT and F3 Engine Output Shaft Can Break!

[Poppie65]

Was this recall targeting specific model years?

 

[Freddy]

Thread 'Recall - 2017-2019 RT and F3 Engine Output Shaft Can Break!'

Oct 11, 2024

I was sent this and didn’t see it posted and sharing it with the Spyder Community.

https://can-am.brp.com/on-road/us/en/owner-zone/safety-recalls/engine-output-shaft-can-break-potential-loss-of-drive-power.html

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[dazza]

As per link above (Freddy) - "This notice is an update of a previous notice issued in October 2024. The corrective action is now available"

The kicker - "BRP will replace at no charge to you (parts and labor) the output shaft of the vehicles if your vehicle is below a specific mileage threshold."

 

[Snoking1127]

How far does the trike have to be disassembled to replace the shaft?

 

[JimH]

So based on the announcement by BRP, if your machine is OVER the threshold you get nothing done? How do you think this threshold came about. Thinking out loud, they probably picked a threshold to limit the "free" corrections they would need to pay for. I am way over the threshold, so I am out of luck I guess.
Regards,
Jim

 

[Peter Aawen]

So based on the announcement by BRP, if your machine is OVER the threshold you get nothing done? How do you think this threshold came about. Thinking out loud, they probably picked a threshold to limit the "free" corrections they would need to pay for. I am way over the threshold, so I am out of luck I guess.
Regards,
Jim

I'd guess that if your Spyder has passed the milage threshold WITHOUT the shaft failing already, the chances of that happening as you ride on are very slim and becoming increasingly unlikely.

So you're not actually 'out of luck'; instead, you've really 'lucked out and managed to score one of the good ones!

 

[pegasus1300]

I find it interesting that the class is determined by year and mileage and not by year and VIN

 

[Dasmoetorhead]

I find it interesting that the class is determined by year and mileage and not by year and VIN

It's BRP is it not? Lol

 

[Jeffrider]

I am in the group 2018 RT with low mileage. I find the wording of the recall confusing. Are they saying if it's below the threshold mileage they will repair it if it breaks?
Or are they saying if it's below the threshold mileage you must bring it in for the recall tear down and shaft replacement now, before it breaks?
And... as parts are available which could take a long time.
Any ideas what they are actually saying?

 

[Snoking1127]

I am in the group 2018 RT with low mileage. I find the wording of the recall confusing. Are they saying if it's below the threshold mileage they will repair it if it breaks?
Or are they saying if it's below the threshold mileage you must bring it in for the recall tear down and shaft replacement now, before it breaks?
And... as parts are available which could take a long time.
Any ideas what they are actually saying?

It Says "BRP will replace at no charge to you (parts and labor) the output shaft of the vehicles if your vehicle is below a specific mileage threshold."
It says 2018 less than 37283 mi, Output shaft replacement required.

 

[rjinaz86323]

I called today and I am the second one in line. They will be ordering parts for the recall on Monday. BRP is allowing for 8.5 hours for the techs to complete the fix. They will give me a call as soon as the parts are in. They thought it would be within a week to 10 days after ordering. Only issue for me is that it's 100 miles to the dealer and it is colder than hell here in North Central Arizona right now. Hopefully it will warm up soon.

 

[MiroSap]

So, is there a way to find out whether a specific VIN is affected? I have 2019 RT with low mileage (it's been sitting for a couple of years), does it automatically mean the recall must be completed? Thanks.

 

[greer]

So, is there a way to find out whether a specific VIN is affected? I have 2019 RT with low mileage (it's been sitting for a couple of years), does it automatically mean the recall must be completed? Thanks.

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[MeudtPG]

Anyone know the shaft output parts list with costs before 8.5 hrs. labor on an RT?
Sounds kind of minimal for the labor time
Is the tech given 8 hrs. to remove the engine and then replace the transmission as a complete transmission unit or remove the transmission, tear it down and install with a new shaft and related parts?
Curious how the techs feel about this 8.5-hr. job.

 

[Snoking1127]

So, is there a way to find out whether a specific VIN is affected? I have 2019 RT with low mileage (it's been sitting for a couple of years), does it automatically mean the recall must be completed? Thanks.

If is has less than 37282 miles it is covered.

 

[VitoNam]

My 2018 F3Ltd, with 24k miles qualifies for the repair.
I'm seriously considering trading in for a new F3Ltd.

 

[Woodaddict]

What is the shaft output parts list including for only 8.5 hrs. labor on an RT?
Sounds kind of minimal for the labor time
Is the tech given 8 hrs. to remove the engine and then replace the transmission as a complete transmission unit or remove the transmission, tear it down and install with a new shaft and related parts?
Curious how the techs feel about this 8.5-hr. job.

The repair is slated for 8 hrs cause the output shaft is in a separate case bolted to engine. Engine does NOT need to come out

 

[Ex-Rocket]

If is has less than 37282 miles it is covered.
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This does not make sense to me about the mileage. I own a 2017 F3 Limited and it has less than 21748 miles. So I'm in the recall limits. So if I had a F3 with 22000 miles the recall does not effect this bike. So what I'm taking from all this is that if you above the mileage limits your output shaft will never break. Just doesn't make sense to me.

 

[Snowbelt Spyder]

The repair is slated for 8 hrs cause the output shaft is in a separate case bolted to engine. Engine does NOT need to come out

No, the GEARBOX is a separate case bolted to the engine. In order to change out the output shaft, aka main shaft, gearbox disassembly is required. Unless the BRP engineers have come up with a new procedure for this, the first step for gearbox disassembly, officially, is to remove the engine from the vehicle. Just like any Recall, dealers will get a Bulletin, if they haven’t already, detailing how to perform the Recall. Let’s wait and see. I wouldn’t want my tech making up stuff, just to get done in 8 hours. Techs always get underpaid for stuff like this, anyway. Not fair. Part of the job.

 

[JeffandLori]

I am wondering when they do this, will the coolant be replaced? Will the motor oil be replaced? Just before I received my recall letter, I was going to have the dealer replace the coolant, oil, oil filter, hcm filter, air filter. Was just going to drop it off at end of riding season. Now if they are pulling motor, I might have plugs done too. Just going to negotiate some of the work.

And yes, I can do most of the work, but my time is valuable too.