Rattle / Loose Front Sprocket

[troop]

It's a very old saying, I've heard it since I was in my 20's. "Brakes are cheaper than engines and transmissions".
Just passing along old husbands' tales.

But, you're not hurting anything with normal engine braking.

 

[Possible]

But, you're not hurting anything with normal engine braking.

I suppose not that much, but old sayings die hard. And the thought was that unnecessary engine braking just adds unneeded wear
and tear on the ancillary parts: clutches, transmissions, U-joints, differentials, etc. The thought was that you used the brakes for
what they were designed: stopping. And you used the engine and transmission for what they were designed: accelerating.

This all of course has nothing to do with engine speed matching while shifting through corners and such. Just when coming to a stop.

 

[Woodaddict]

I suppose not that much, but old sayings die hard. And the thought was that unnecessary engine braking just adds unneeded wear
and tear on the ancillary parts: clutches, transmissions, U-joints, differentials, etc. The thought was that you used the brakes for
what they were designed: stopping. And you used the engine and transmission for what they were designed: accelerating.

This all of course has nothing to do with engine speed matching while shifting through corners and such. Just when coming to a stop.

its time to lose that thinking. motorcycle engines engine brake easier and quicker that cars / trucks. just designed to do that. if you hold that old saying to be true, you would go from gas "on", right to brake "on"..................................................and be wasting gas???????

 

[Possible]

"designed to do that"? Probably not, just a side effect of high compression and relative high gearing.
And relatively low weight.

 

[Woodaddict]

"designed to do that"? Probably not, just a side effect of high compression and relative high gearing.
And relatively low weight.

there you go.....probably so........... so you wouldn't do any "let off the gas" and just coast be cause that would be engine braking and hurting system?

 

[Possible]

there you go.....probably so........... so you wouldn't do any "let off the gas" and just coast be cause that would be engine braking and hurting system?

Sure I do it all the time, usually downshift coming up to a stop. Like I said it's an old husbands tale. People used to do it as a matter of course
because old time brakes were usually awful, and not very reliable. When brakes became actually capable of stopping a vehicle in a short distance,
guys started saying brake pads are cheaper than engine parts.

 

[Jetfixer]

I would think that if downshifting for engine braking would do damage, Can Am wouldn't be recommending that you do just that to control vehicle speed on hills. It's right there in the operators manual under advanced riding street skills.

 

[Valkrocket]

Don't know about your Spyder Jet, but when I down shift(and I always do when coming to a stop) my Spyder seams to glide for a while and doesn't downshift immediately. Thinking this might be to protect the engine. My Valkyrie had an immediate response when I downshifted.
Does yours do the same?

 

[Jetfixer]

Don't know about your Spyder Jet, but when I down shift(and I always do when coming to a stop) my Spyder seams to glide for a while and doesn't downshift immediately. Thinking this might be to protect the engine. My Valkyrie had an immediate response when I downshifted.
Does yours do the same?

I'd say there is a slight difference compared to my previous 2015 RTL. The earlier one would grab up so firmly that you had to brace for it. The 2020 does seem to take a fraction longer. Perhaps they tweaked the clutch pressure timing on downshifting to not be so harsh?