effgjamis
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http://politicaloutcast.com/2012/07/the-most-pro-gun-low-crime-city-in-the-united-states/
quite interesting read I think...
quite interesting read I think...
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Pro Guns ..... Interesting read
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KCPete
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Bob Denman
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The sad fact, is that while we can all nodd our heads in agreement about it; there's always going to be somebody around ready to roll their eyes in disgust over the sad state of affairs in Kennesaw... :gaah:
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While I like the read, if you roll heavy you should know where it will get you into trouble. I do, I would not ask anyone in NY where to check my firearm, I would just leave it in the secret location on the spyder and move on.
I read an interesting article about the situation last Thursday where the writer of the article basically blamed the failed assualt gun ban on the mass shooting. Doesnt matter that the individual had 3 more firearms, and had rigged his entire apartment building to blow. If only owning an AR-15 was illegal, then it would have never happened.
That mentality is pure lunacy. Where was the NSA and the Government agencies supposedly using the patriot act to farm all the data on earth about the US citizens. Didnt notice 4 firearms, smoke bombs, tactical gear and large amounts of stuff to blow up a building? I mean I guess he didnt use American Express or VISA here to make all this happen.
First and foremost I would enjoy the return of Journalists. You know those people that used to write the news without bias and spin involved. The ones that just wanted to tell the world what was happening, not make it to the next big thing because they predicted something or had an agenda?
Between having to read what happens and see the CNN / FOX verison and then several other verisons to actually understand what is happening.
It makes me sad, we are slowly erroding into a place where taxes and bans on handguns is what the people think their government should do because it will stop the people that are already breaking the law.
You know back in the day, when all they had were rocks, they hit each other and threw them at one another. Then then made arrows and hatchets from sticks and rocks, spears, bows, swords, etc... Obviously we are going to use tools to fight or hunt or whatever we do, why is everyone about taking them from people? Are they afraid of the items themselves, I would think so. But to justify it (which is all we seem to do as people, justify what we do, regardless of the cost or appearance) they look at this guy that was obviously interested in killing and collateral damage.
Insane? perhaps, maybe he was just angry his cow died on farmville, how will we ever know. Because someone this "damaged" or "sane" will give answers us regulars will never understand. I would like to believe that somehow in this world something beside fear of reprocussions would stop people, but I have come to believe that these people do these things because they are not afraid of someone stopping them before they do whatever it is they are looking to do.
I read an interesting article about the situation last Thursday where the writer of the article basically blamed the failed assualt gun ban on the mass shooting. Doesnt matter that the individual had 3 more firearms, and had rigged his entire apartment building to blow. If only owning an AR-15 was illegal, then it would have never happened.
That mentality is pure lunacy. Where was the NSA and the Government agencies supposedly using the patriot act to farm all the data on earth about the US citizens. Didnt notice 4 firearms, smoke bombs, tactical gear and large amounts of stuff to blow up a building? I mean I guess he didnt use American Express or VISA here to make all this happen.
First and foremost I would enjoy the return of Journalists. You know those people that used to write the news without bias and spin involved. The ones that just wanted to tell the world what was happening, not make it to the next big thing because they predicted something or had an agenda?
Between having to read what happens and see the CNN / FOX verison and then several other verisons to actually understand what is happening.
It makes me sad, we are slowly erroding into a place where taxes and bans on handguns is what the people think their government should do because it will stop the people that are already breaking the law.
You know back in the day, when all they had were rocks, they hit each other and threw them at one another. Then then made arrows and hatchets from sticks and rocks, spears, bows, swords, etc... Obviously we are going to use tools to fight or hunt or whatever we do, why is everyone about taking them from people? Are they afraid of the items themselves, I would think so. But to justify it (which is all we seem to do as people, justify what we do, regardless of the cost or appearance) they look at this guy that was obviously interested in killing and collateral damage.
Insane? perhaps, maybe he was just angry his cow died on farmville, how will we ever know. Because someone this "damaged" or "sane" will give answers us regulars will never understand. I would like to believe that somehow in this world something beside fear of reprocussions would stop people, but I have come to believe that these people do these things because they are not afraid of someone stopping them before they do whatever it is they are looking to do.
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Also removed out of respect for Firefly, I feel like I been on his back lately.
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Dude you gotta post a link to that kinda sale!
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zrc
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Sorry Bro, I wasnt trying to debate you, I was actually thinking down the line of the topic. Its hard to understand where the line to help people and to hurt them is. I am pro not going to far, and I was thinking outloud. Not trying to dog you, just trying to state that I wish there was an easier and better answer.
Firefly
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Just best to keep away from hot-button topics.
I actually feel less positive about the future of the world than I did before reading some of the responses out here about these topics.nojoke
To see so many willing to kill over something as stupid as a TV or a Spyder....makes me sick.. not to mention the judgmental attitude towards those less fortunate than us.nojoke
But I do owe you a link you can research tax rates and the history..... pretty interesting stuff: http://taxfoundation.org/article/us...-2011-nominal-and-inflation-adjusted-brackets
dave01
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Firefly, I agree with you on most of the gun stuff. Steal my Spyder, its yours. Want my tv, take it. But come into my house when I or my family is home and I have no idea of your intentions, you will not walk out. 2 burglaries and 1 home invasion in 2 years makes me very cautious and wary about others. The majority of my shooting is killing clay pigeons and a ton of paper targets.
spyder3
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You crack me up Dan. 2 post in this thread claiming you are not posting, one post to say your keeping away from hot button topics.....and then move on to take a shot(no pun intended) at just about everyone who doesn't see things YOUR way....in the VERY SAME POST..... really? :roflblack::roflblack: Is it that important to you to get the last word in? You are not married, thats for certain...:roflblack:
Bob Denman
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Give him a bit of a break guys; He's been hammered from pillar to post recently about these things. We ain't changing his mind and he ain't changing ours, so let's agree to give him a pass on this one... :thumbup:
Ammo for sale: I've got a Dillon RL550B set up for 45acp, 9mm and 38 spl. that I'd like to sell...
Why not roll your own??
Ammo for sale: I've got a Dillon RL550B set up for 45acp, 9mm and 38 spl. that I'd like to sell...
Why not roll your own??
Firefly
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:agree: And think you have a very sane way of looking at things. :thumbup:
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Firefly
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For your information the system wouldn't let me delete those posts for whatever reason...so I had no choice but to just replace the text with something. But I'll go try and remove them again just to make you happy.
BTW....I could care less about the last word.. or what you think about me.... but at least I didn't resort to personal attacks.
My relationship status is frankly none of your business.
Firefly
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It's really no big deal Bob.... I just decided to keep things from getting out of hand out here again... not fair to Lamont for us to have stupid debates out here on non-spyder related things.
It's apparent many just see things in black and white.... when the world is really gray.......
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