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People sure are dumb.

I worked across the street from a high school continuation school. Before a student could enroll they had to be off probation and have a valid driver's license. That in itself indicated some ability to read and follow directions. During the first week, they had to pass proficiency in reading an analog clock and a tape measure.

I'm a Home Improvement contractor.... When interviewing Younger (20+yo) applicants First question is, "can you read a tape measure"... Most say yes... I then ask how many 1/4's are in an inch... You would be surprised how many can't answer correctly. These are the usually applicants that want to make $25-$30 an hour...
I can't wait till retirement...:banghead::banghead::banghead:
 
2dogs, I guess we will have to agree to disagree on this.
Instead of scrip I should have said cursive writing. Most can print their name, but ask them to write it or read cursive and they get a deer in the headlights look on their face. Ask for a signature and they will print it.
Go into a store and pey cash and they have a hard time making change.
Give them something electronic and they are a great.
 
I retired from a job at a phosphate mine in Florida in 2005. Within a few days after I retired, the superintendent and the supervisor came to my house and asked if I would consider returning to work. They came back back 2 more times in the following weeks. They were getting tech school graduates that had a class A CDL and couldn't drive the trucks. They had people hiring on that claimed to be heavy equipment operators, but they could not even start the machines. The mine was governed by both OSHA and MHSA, and had mines safety training requirements lasting more than a week before the new hires were allowed on company property. There was also serious random drug testing. They were going through months trying to find an employee that could actually perform the required jobs and wasn't just clean for the pre-hire drug test.They finally hired a former employee of another mine that had just moved into the area. Most of the younger employees they tried could not get to work on time (or at all) for a week straight. It was around the clock shift work, and if the relief employee did not show up, or was late, the employee that had just completed his shift could not go home. The lateness and the missed days was costing huge over time. Most of the new hires never made it past the 90 day probationary period.
 
I retired from a job at a phosphate mine in Florida in 2005. Within a few days after I retired, the superintendent and the supervisor came to my house and asked if I would consider returning to work. They came back back 2 more times in the following weeks. They were getting tech school graduates that had a class A CDL and couldn't drive the trucks. They had people hiring on that claimed to be heavy equipment operators, but they could not even start the machines. The mine was governed by both OSHA and MHSA, and had mines safety training requirements lasting more than a week before the new hires were allowed on company property. There was also serious random drug testing. They were going through months trying to find an employee that could actually perform the required jobs and wasn't just clean for the pre-hire drug test.They finally hired a former employee of another mine that had just moved into the area. Most of the younger employees they tried could not get to work on time (or at all) for a week straight. It was around the clock shift work, and if the relief employee did not show up, or was late, the employee that had just completed his shift could not go home. The lateness and the missed days was costing huge over time. Most of the new hires never made it past the 90 day probationary period.

That's why immigrants have always been necessary for American economic growth. We're happy to take the jobs American youth can't be bothered with.
 
:agree: with Raven .... lately I've seen dozens of " Man - Girl - Whatever " on the street interviews. Some were with College students .... They Scare the Cr*p out of me..... Ignorance seems to be the norm today ..... JMHO .... Mike :thumbup:

That's always been the attitude of older generations toward the younger ones, I think.
 
2dogs, I guess we will have to agree to disagree on this.
Instead of scrip I should have said cursive writing. Most can print their name, but ask them to write it or read cursive and they get a deer in the headlights look on their face. Ask for a signature and they will print it.
Go into a store and pey cash and they have a hard time making change.
Give them something electronic and they are a great.

Why would they want to learn obsolete skills?
 
That's why immigrants have always been necessary for American economic growth. We're happy to take the jobs American youth can't be bothered with.

BINGO! You nailed it. Two sides to every story. My nephew can't read or write cursive, but landed a tech job in the livestock industry that pays more than I would have ever imagined. I poke fun at him and he waves his paycheck at me :roflblack: According to my parents I was a lost cause. Motorcycles, long hair, and I mean down to by butt long hair, evil music, you name it. Turned out I have an amazing wife, raised a RN and a 20+ year Navy veteran, and had a good enough career that I retired at 56. Like my parents I think the new generations are a lost cause, but I'm optimistic that they will prove me wrong.
 
Common sense just isn't common.
One look at what it takes to change oil or replace the rear tire on our Spyders is all the evidence you need.
Kids today would be out of luck without an electrical umbilical cord and the Google.
 
Common sense just isn't common.
One look at what it takes to change oil or replace the rear tire on our Spyders is all the evidence you need.
Kids today would be out of luck without an electrical umbilical cord and the Google.

I think motorcycle maintenance is an acquired skill, not common sense.
 
:agree: with Raven .... lately I've seen dozens of " Man - Girl - Whatever " on the street interviews. Some were with College students .... They Scare the Cr*p out of me..... Ignorance seems to be the norm today ..... JMHO .... Mike :thumbup:

They only show the ones that would scare the Cr*p out of you. The ones that give the correct answers don't get saved. It's entertainment.
 
Common sense just isn't common.
One look at what it takes to change oil or replace the rear tire on our Spyders is all the evidence you need.
Kids today would be out of luck without an electrical umbilical cord and the Google.

It's not just the kids, go back and look at some of the posts on this site. I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed, but YouTube has pulled my fat out of the fire on more than one occasion. So don't knock the internet too hard, look at where and what we're on right now.
 
I retired from a job at a phosphate mine in Florida in 2005. Within a few days after I retired, the superintendent and the supervisor came to my house and asked if I would consider returning to work. They came back back 2 more times in the following weeks. They were getting tech school graduates that had a class A CDL and couldn't drive the trucks. They had people hiring on that claimed to be heavy equipment operators, but they could not even start the machines. The mine was governed by both OSHA and MHSA, and had mines safety training requirements lasting more than a week before the new hires were allowed on company property. There was also serious random drug testing. They were going through months trying to find an employee that could actually perform the required jobs and wasn't just clean for the pre-hire drug test.They finally hired a former employee of another mine that had just moved into the area. Most of the younger employees they tried could not get to work on time (or at all) for a week straight. It was around the clock shift work, and if the relief employee did not show up, or was late, the employee that had just completed his shift could not go home. The lateness and the missed days was costing huge over time. Most of the new hires never made it past the 90 day probationary period.

When the company I retired from was looking for my replacement I went through 18 candidates in 5 weeks.

Let me give you an example. ( I worked on industrial assemble and packaging machinery)

One of my test questions was can you explain the difference between electrical timing and mechanical timing.

One answered. one you wind up and the other is either battery or you plug in the wall. this was for a job with a pay scale starting at 60K a year.
 
When the company I retired from was looking for my replacement I went through 18 candidates in 5 weeks.

Let me give you an example. ( I worked on industrial assemble and packaging machinery)

One of my test questions was can you explain the difference between electrical timing and mechanical timing.

One answered. one you wind up and the other is either battery or you plug in the wall. this was for a job with a pay scale starting at 60K a year.

I doubt their education, experience or training ever involved antiquated technologies like that. Would you be able to explain the difference between electrical controls and electronic controls?
 
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Worked in hospitals most of my life. I'd always be amazed at the young folks who started on the ward. Some would be total idiots, mean and lazy. The other half would be bright and interested in learning, compassionate and helpful. I stopped marveling at the contrast, and just tried to encourage the helpful and compassionate kids. My guess is we have always had the idiots who walk among us and always will.
~Sandee~
 
I doubt their education, experience or training ever involved antiquated technologies like that. Would you be able to explain the difference between electrical controls and electronic controls?

YES, yes I would.
One converts electrical energy into other forms of energy.
Electronic control power to preform a task...simple terms because KISS.
 
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