aubierules
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Passing it on- Dynamic Power Steering (DPS) Update
- Thread starter Lamonster
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aubierules
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yeah..it we be background noise when they get sued for wrongfull deathPersonally I appreciate just hearing something from BRP. If only 20 reports are recorded; then to BRP that isn't a major issue relative to their total production. (as we used to say in the service: ("Just a little background noise").
Michael:doorag:
aubierules
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:roflblack: too funny
aubierules
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they do get good gas mileage!
or is it that they get gassy?? i always get confused:joke:
Recluze
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"I thought this be a spyder thread....
I think all the cage stuff should be in the OFF Topic area.
Just an Ole man's thought as I don't care about reading about the cage problems, as I have problems of my own and not spyder at least forthe moment."
I agree that this should be a Spyder thread.
And for those of you without a steering problem- good on you.
And for those of you who have had a steering lock up problem, had it repaired, and think that will hold up- good on you too.
And for those who have more serious issues to deal with-I will think good thoughts for you.
For the 20 of us that get the get a reoccurring steering problem every 10,000 miles- not so good. Until the rest of you experience it you don't know how scary it can be.
The latest fix for me was to change the battery-yeah. right. That should do it.
I love my Spyder. But until they redesign the steering and change the engine out for something more durable, I could not buy another one. I can no longer recommend them as a safe fun ride either.
Now back to automobile bashing with this thread.
I think all the cage stuff should be in the OFF Topic area.
Just an Ole man's thought as I don't care about reading about the cage problems, as I have problems of my own and not spyder at least forthe moment."
I agree that this should be a Spyder thread.
And for those of you without a steering problem- good on you.
And for those of you who have had a steering lock up problem, had it repaired, and think that will hold up- good on you too.
And for those who have more serious issues to deal with-I will think good thoughts for you.
For the 20 of us that get the get a reoccurring steering problem every 10,000 miles- not so good. Until the rest of you experience it you don't know how scary it can be.
The latest fix for me was to change the battery-yeah. right. That should do it.
I love my Spyder. But until they redesign the steering and change the engine out for something more durable, I could not buy another one. I can no longer recommend them as a safe fun ride either.
Now back to automobile bashing with this thread.
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Way2Fast
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Finally, a BRP statement!:2excited:
Thanks Lamont.....(the following doesn't reflect on you in any way at all)
Thanks BRP, what a crock.......
......is that REALLY the best you can do??
"after thousands of hours of research, we've determined that this can't be happening to you, so don't pull your fuses, you'll be fine until you kiss that truck bumper......"
I think BRP employs more clowns than Barnum & Bailey.....
I couldn't stop laughing after I read the above post. The problem is this shouldn't be a laughing matter. I agree with every thing HDXbones said.
IMO, BRP is a cowardly corporation. They give a statement here and yet don't breathe a word about the steering issue on their white washed web site. They still keep on avoiding what the REAL steering fix might be. They say not to remove the fuses that will de-activate the DPS because it will make the problem worse. Why ? How?....please explain. If removing the fuses kills the electrically powered steering and this doesn't solve the problem, then the problem is NOT with the DPS. Give us something concrete to go by, not the same old "we're working on it." As I see it the software updates that were meant to address the problem ARE what made the problem worse. It was after the updates when many owners experienced their first problems. Yet they still suggest that everyone get the updates done. Is this really sound advice ?????
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Way2Fast
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[quote
we cannot stress enough that one should not remove the fuse powering the DPS unit as this can only worsen the situation described in the July DPS recall notice.[/FONT]
The Can-Am Spyder After-Sales Support Tea[/COLOR]m[/FONT][/quote]
Seems that the Can-Am Spyder After-Sales Support Team is not knowledgeable enough to know that there are TWO fuses for the DPS system.......I hope the engineers have a better understanding of their product.
we cannot stress enough that one should not remove the fuse powering the DPS unit as this can only worsen the situation described in the July DPS recall notice.[/FONT]
The Can-Am Spyder After-Sales Support Tea[/COLOR]m[/FONT][/quote]
Seems that the Can-Am Spyder After-Sales Support Team is not knowledgeable enough to know that there are TWO fuses for the DPS system.......I hope the engineers have a better understanding of their product.
I would think 20 (16 2008) REPORTED steering issues where it takes over the steering causing you to possibly go into on coming traffic would be a major issue.
It amazes me that with this posting that they can admit there is still an issue and tell you it is okay to ride? Isn't that opening the door to a easy lawsuit if something happens to someone with steering issues as they are saying it is okay to ride the bike???
It amazes me that with this posting that they can admit there is still an issue and tell you it is okay to ride? Isn't that opening the door to a easy lawsuit if something happens to someone with steering issues as they are saying it is okay to ride the bike???
Personally I appreciate just hearing something from BRP. If only 20 reports are recorded; then to BRP that isn't a major issue relative to their total production. (as we used to say in the service: ("Just a little background noise").
Michael:doorag:
Nah ... they'd find a way to weasel out if they get in hot water with this. You don't think they have a corporate full of lawyers just sittin there gettin phat?!?
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Spanky
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I can't see even the most devoted BRP fan liking the flavor of this koolaid....:dontknow:
I guess I need to get a battery tender, it looks like it will be awhile.
:helpsmilie:
As an owner of a spyder with steering problems, I am awaiting the delivery of a new DPS unit in hopes it fixes my problem. (ETA ? Back ordered) At least I have till may 2013 warranty. I bought the used trike back last December and have only put less than 50 miles on the puppy.
Fingers and toes crossed ...
Fingers and toes crossed ...
NancysToy
Motorbike Professor
Once again, if any of you that are reporting problems have not reported them to the NHTSA, please do so. There is more pressure with higher numbers. If you have reported before, but had a repeated incident, report that one, too. Also, I urge you to get your Spyder to a dealer if you have not done so. Whatever anyone thinks of BRP, remember that they cannot troubleshoot and figure out the problems if they don't have the broken Spyders in hand.
Amanda B
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Too funny
I was kind of thinking the same thing! I'm in the same boat! There's a lot of snow on my roof too....
I was kind of thinking the same thing! I'm in the same boat! There's a lot of snow on my roof too....
Amanda B
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locking mechanisms
Well...if I'm on my spyder and behind me there is a Toyota I'm going to be wondering...will my steering lock up or will their gas pedal lock up or with my luck both would happen!! Also, I am always more cautious when a biker is in front of me, not that I don't always try to be careful, but I worry more when it is a biker in front of me because I know they are more prone to be hurt seriously in the event I hit them due to whatever, now I have to worry more about a stupid pedal problem. I get the point though. I think people are trying to compare Toyota's response to the problems to BRPs response to the steering problem though. My only point is we all share the roads, so we should care that there are unsafe vehicles on the road, and most of us drive more than just the :spyder2:.
Well...if I'm on my spyder and behind me there is a Toyota I'm going to be wondering...will my steering lock up or will their gas pedal lock up or with my luck both would happen!! Also, I am always more cautious when a biker is in front of me, not that I don't always try to be careful, but I worry more when it is a biker in front of me because I know they are more prone to be hurt seriously in the event I hit them due to whatever, now I have to worry more about a stupid pedal problem. I get the point though. I think people are trying to compare Toyota's response to the problems to BRPs response to the steering problem though. My only point is we all share the roads, so we should care that there are unsafe vehicles on the road, and most of us drive more than just the :spyder2:.
Firefly
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:agree:
Well said.
And for those without steering problems--- RIDE!
Just like the danger of having a flat tire (which is probably greater than a DPS failure) - be prepared for any mechanical failure that may occur.
This is true for any bike - because all mechanical things can fail.
I rode with a *bit* of caution after getting mine back from the steering fix last March - but within a few hundred miles felt as safe and comfortable as ever. 10,000 miles later--- no problems.
Expecting BRP to come on a public forum and 'admit' to anything is silly - no company in their right mind would ever do such a thing. You can bet that any written release has to go through the legal dept in this day and age as it seems people think they can sue for what *might* happen to them.
I believe there has only been one injury reported that was *probably* due to steering problems - but if I recall the rider admitted to taking some twisties too fast, bike was pulling left and he thought he was going to hit a truck - so he chose to go far left and off the road thus crashing.
The crash of the woman in TX was never determined either way as to the cause.
I don't agree with this argument..there is a chance you will get a flat tire sure, but know you also added another chance of something, I think, could be just as serious. You haven't eliminated the flat tire problem you have added to it. With that logic why bother taking anything in for recall repair if you have never had the problem.
HDXBones is right...I reread it and they really don't admit anything a make it sound like they are only checking if there is inface an issue at all. I don't like this...not one bit..I really love riding this as I will not take the extra risks of riding a two wheel so this is my only option. Just hopes this get resolved to my liking as it is just not the money but I really want to ride it .
Smylinacha
Yellinacha
Well I have a problem with this whole thing.....
I was on the Spyderryder website which is www.spyder.brp.com. I go into "news" and what Lamont posted that he was passing on was not on their website. WHY NOT? I looked everywhere. If BRP wants to pass this on, then why not? I really don't think everyone who rydes a spyder is in a forum, wouldn't it be good for people who aren't involved in forums to know this? Maybe I'm wrong but I looked everywhere on their website.
Only thing I found under "News" was total crap - Question of the Week which was definitely not sent in by an owner or enthusiast - it's a "canned" question. Simple as sticking a tv dinner in the microwave - it's all there for ya - pre nuke directions and ready to go - read the questions in there - they are TOTALLY FREAKIN STUPID. Canned if you ask me. Almost peed my pants reading question of the week for 2/5. Come on? Like who gives a sh*t.:dontknow: This is such a joke.
Ask REAL questions. Put REAL NEWS in there - like what Lamont passed onto us. And if what Lamont passed onto to us is real news, then give us a time table. What "news" they passed thru Lamont doesn't say a damn thing.
I was on the Spyderryder website which is www.spyder.brp.com. I go into "news" and what Lamont posted that he was passing on was not on their website. WHY NOT? I looked everywhere. If BRP wants to pass this on, then why not? I really don't think everyone who rydes a spyder is in a forum, wouldn't it be good for people who aren't involved in forums to know this? Maybe I'm wrong but I looked everywhere on their website.
Only thing I found under "News" was total crap - Question of the Week which was definitely not sent in by an owner or enthusiast - it's a "canned" question. Simple as sticking a tv dinner in the microwave - it's all there for ya - pre nuke directions and ready to go - read the questions in there - they are TOTALLY FREAKIN STUPID. Canned if you ask me. Almost peed my pants reading question of the week for 2/5. Come on? Like who gives a sh*t.:dontknow: This is such a joke.
Ask REAL questions. Put REAL NEWS in there - like what Lamont passed onto us. And if what Lamont passed onto to us is real news, then give us a time table. What "news" they passed thru Lamont doesn't say a damn thing.
Said it once I'll say it again, BRP hopes 08/09 owners will soon fade away
BRP is into selling new and more expensive Spyders.
Even this forum is starting to turn into two forums = GS and RTS
BRP knows that most everyone who owns a Spyder is not on any forum's
Just my opinion maybe I'm wrong, Hey i still think the world is flat.
Firefly
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The Spyder Ryder site is one of their various advertising mediums - not a 'forum' where information is shared like this is over here. This whole thread is probably a good example as to why BRP won't run an 'official' forum - it could be a legal nightmare for them. From a corporate standpoint I can easily understand why they wouldn't post such negative information about the Spyder on that site - especially since it has not affected most Spyders.
Every 08 and 09 owner in North America was notified about the steering recall quite some time ago. I can't remember exactly when the cutoff was for these notifications - but they did send them out. There really shouldn't be any 08 or 09 Spyder owners that are unaware of the recall.
I'm not saying they're handling everything perfectly - but spreading unnecessary panic about what has happened to a very small amount of Spyders would be corporate hari-kari.
Those still having problems need to put big pressure on BRP and their dealers to get them fixed. Those that don't have the problem - or had it fixed should be happy. If you're really that unhappy with the Spyder or BRP, perhaps selling it or trading it in is the best option for you.
Being alert about potential problems is one thing, but I don't see how spreading panic helps at all.
Every 08 and 09 owner in North America was notified about the steering recall quite some time ago. I can't remember exactly when the cutoff was for these notifications - but they did send them out. There really shouldn't be any 08 or 09 Spyder owners that are unaware of the recall.
I'm not saying they're handling everything perfectly - but spreading unnecessary panic about what has happened to a very small amount of Spyders would be corporate hari-kari.
Those still having problems need to put big pressure on BRP and their dealers to get them fixed. Those that don't have the problem - or had it fixed should be happy. If you're really that unhappy with the Spyder or BRP, perhaps selling it or trading it in is the best option for you.
Being alert about potential problems is one thing, but I don't see how spreading panic helps at all.
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