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Oil change kits

You can pay through the nose for a complete one including oil from BRP or save some shekels buying parts from BajaRon (a SL sponsor) and buy the oil of your choice or get Amsoil from him too.
 
Robs, Honda East, Moesites. All good places, site sponsors. Figure right around $56 for the SM and $60 for the SE shipped seems to be about the going rate.

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How is $62 a racket for 5qts of oil, a filter, and all the orings and crush gaskets you need?

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possible to save some money by shopping around... Hi Flo oil filter #556 is available on Ebay for under $5.00 for (1330 engine)... Castrol 5W40 full synthetic (not a blend) with a SL rating $44.00 on Amazon... O-rings & drain plug washers -- $3.00 from parts house..

osm
 
Not going to argue about pennies but your spending more than that. Throw up some links if your finding oil and filters on the cheap, I'm sure others would love to know.

For most that don't want to over think it, $56 for an sm5 kit or even $62 is nice, easy, and affordable.
 
Shopping...

I get mine from ebay...the xps blend kit....they end up coming from bike shops but great prices...:thumbup:
 
Not going to argue about pennies but your spending more than that. Throw up some links if your finding oil and filters on the cheap, I'm sure others would love to know.

For most that don't want to over think it, $56 for an sm5 kit or even $62 is nice, easy, and affordable.

Drew... go to Ebay.com ... type in Hi Flo #556 oil filter ... prices range start at $3.50 and go up... one vendor has sold over 90 .. if you can't find it on your own, let me know i'll try to guide you ? for Castrol T4 go to Amazon.com type in Castrol 5W40 T4 full synthetic oil .. by the way... Castrol T4 is not a cheap blend.. its 100% FULL SYNTHETIC (and it has a SL rating which is approved by BRP - check your manual) for the O-rings.. I buy them from Blue Water rubber & gaskets (local company) I bought 5 of each of the O-rings & copper sealing washers for the drain plugs..... cost $3.72 for the lot...

if you want to put a cheaper/inferior oil in your spyder its ok wif me... check prices for yourself on the above oil & filter.. I am spending less than $56 for a much better oil.. and same filter BRP uses

osm
 
Drew... go to Ebay.com ... type in Hi Flo #556 oil filter ... prices range start at $3.50 and go up... one vendor has sold over 90 .. if you can't find it on your own, let me know i'll try to guide you ? for Castrol T4 go to Amazon.com type in Castrol 5W40 T4 full synthetic oil .. by the way... Castrol T4 is not a cheap blend.. its 100% FULL SYNTHETIC (and it has a SL rating which is approved by BRP - check your manual) for the O-rings.. I buy them from Blue Water rubber & gaskets (local company) I bought 5 of each of the O-rings & copper sealing washers for the drain plugs..... cost $3.72 for the lot...

if you want to put a cheaper/inferior oil in your spyder its ok wif me... check prices for yourself on the above oil & filter.. I am spending less than $56 for a much better oil.. and same filter BRP uses

osm

Yes, I sell these filter kits and Amsoil, but that is not why I am posting. I don't make a lot of money on these items and in any case, it does not bother me that there are alternative choices out there. Still, I want to offer a quality product at a competitive price. So this thread has interest to me in that respect.

Everyone should use the products that they are happy with. Riding is all about doing things your own way.

But it is curious to me how people see things sometimes. I have customers tell me they can get Amsoil for so-and-so price. I ask, 'Does that include tax?'. 'Well, no, I pay x.xx% tax on top of that price.' Which means that the customer is actually paying more for their Amsoil than my price including delivery. But mentally, they just don't account for the whole enchilada and think they are actually paying less than they are.

Sellers are aware of this psychological anomaly in many people and take advantage of it. And why not? It helps sell things. For example. It is not uncommon for an item on eBay to sell much better at $90.00 with $15.00 shipping than the same exact item for $100.00 free shipping.

And yes, that one seller has sold 90 of these HiFlo 559 filters. But it may have taken him 5 years to do it! When you have a 'Run Till Canceled' listing, it will keep racking up the numbers forever. Both the seller and eBay know the buyer will assume this number of items has been sold in a relatively short period of time. psychologically, this creates a 'Buy' mentality because if 90 people thought this was a good deal, then so do I!. It drives more sales and that's what it's all about.

I was not able to find any HiFlo 556 filters for less than this eBay listing for $7.91. Certainly way over the $3.50 quoted. Not saying that there isn't a HiFlo 556 out there somewhere for $3.50 (delivered?). Just saying I was not able to find it.

HI FLO - OIL FILTER HF556

  • $7.91
  • Buy It Now


And this one, I think, is one that was specifically referenced. But this one is actually MORE expensive than the one above when you factor in shipping.


 
Hi Ron,

Like you, I run a small 1-man business.

Over the past 30+ years I have always been able find suppliers who could get it to me for less.

It usually does not come at the actual price(s) quoted due to what you have said. :banghead:

I have also learned to go with those companies that are a little more expensive if they give me good service.

Sometimes when you save money, you will wait a long time to get your goods. :banghead:

I have a number of suppliers that charge me more than I could get the same materials elsewhere. I stay with the suppliers who treat me the best; even if it costs me more. Simply because I value the good service. :yes:

Just my $0.02 on this subject,

Jerry Baumchen
 
BajaRon:

Do we message you to make an order ? Or how do you prefer us to order with you. Also I dont use paypal as I was hacked for $22,000.00 on a security breach thru paypal.....so do you take VISA or can we send a check and hold shipping until it clears ?

Look forward to ordering with you ! :spyder2:

ST-L 2014 V-twin 998

Craig
 
BajaRon:

Do we message you to make an order ? Or how do you prefer us to order with you. Also I dont use paypal as I was hacked for $22,000.00 on a security breach thru paypal.....so do you take VISA or can we send a check and hold shipping until it clears ?

Look forward to ordering with you ! :spyder2:

ST-L 2014 V-twin 998

Craig

The best way to get me is by email at [email protected] (as mentioned by Highwayman2013). eMail allows me to keep good records without writing everything down and then losing the paper! :rolleyes: It's not a perfect system, nothing is. And I still manage to make some mistakes. But I try hard to keep them at a minimum.

I can't process a CC directly. I use Paypal for that. Like you, there are some who can't or will not use Paypal. But it is very rare so I have decided not to pay for a 3rd party service for CC's.

A personal check, MO, etc., works fine. Shipping is a bit slower but most allow for that.

Since I sell Amsoil at my actual cost. I need a zip code to give an accurate price quote because shipping costs vary by destination.
 
Hi Craig,

Re: Look forward to ordering with you !

I have bought my sway bar from Ron. I have bought the Heim links from Ron. I have bought some oil change parts from Ron. Three seperate orders with him.

I do not use PayPal either.

I send him an email with what I want to buy ( be very specific if you can, and include your zipcode as he says ), he sends me back an email with the cost. I then send him a check.

Never a problem.

Jerry Baumchen

PS) If only other dealers were as honest.
 
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