Now mine....

[bjt]

Cross-over... don't know if I'll use the flex joints... will need two stub pipes pointing inward from each side... then connected by some sort of sliding joint/adapter/clamp. I don't want to have to drop both sides to replace just one of the upper gaskets.

Exactly what I had in mind. Two stubs of pipe pointing inward with that flex joint connected between the stubs. Easy to install and remove one side only, just loosen the flex joint to seperate the two pipes and then remove one side. Also, the flex crossover allows independant movement between the two sides while riding.

 

[ataDude]

Gotcha. I might use them after all. They were expensive! My inventory of miscellaneous exhaust parts is overflowing.

I'll do some research, if needed. I always thought the cross-over was smaller diameter than the pipes. In my case, the pipes are 2" OD. I was thinking something like 1.00" - 1.50".

BTW, I used the DEI silicone coating this time. I believe it was you who pointed me to it a few months back. So far, I like it better... much smoother coating. It has to be baked at 400* or more to cure it (I used 450*)... and, trust me, I'm lucky I'm single because it stunk the entire house up. Nasty.

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Exactly what I had in mind. Two stubs of pipe pointing inward with that flex joint connected between the stubs. Easy to install and remove one side only, just loosen the flex joint to seperate the two pipes and then remove one side. Also, the flex crossover allows independant movement between the two sides while riding.

 

[ataDude]

Almost...

...but not quite finished. This is the hand pounded aluminum heat shield for each side.

Last step: there are also some stock GSX-R1000 heat/trim shields which require some major surgery... they cover the flanges and acorn nuts that you can see in the pic.

Update on performance... by themselves, nothing was gained or lost according to my run against the benchmark bike last weekend... but I'm not through yet, either.

 

[bjt]

Still looking good. :thumbup:

 

[ataDude]

Still looking good. :thumbup:

I love that perf'd aluminum... easy to shape with a mallet over PVC pipe and looks like it should have been there to begin with.

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[retread]

Oh, man, now I've got exhaust envy, too. Why cover the flanges? they look real good.

john

 

[burg650]

Those dual look awesome, I would sure love a set up like that for my SE5 just for looks. I was never a fan of single side exhaust, I believe dual side exhaust makes any motorcycle look great a single looks like they forgot to add the other one.

 

[ataDude]

Oh, man, now I've got exhaust envy, too. Why cover the flanges? they look real good.

john

Those dual look awesome, I would sure love a set up like that for my SE5 just for looks. I was never a fan of single side exhaust, I believe dual side exhaust makes any motorcycle look great a single looks like they forgot to add the other one.

Thanks, guys. If I can get the stock GSXR covers to work, you'll see why. They make it look gooooooooood.

But, I'm "exhausted" :yikes: right now. Will be a few weeks before I get back at it. This was fun when it started but now....

 

[bjt]

How long til you make some type of crossover between the exhausts? I have heard that a one exhaust per cylinder design such as you have does not perform as well as duals with a crossover pipe between the two.

 

[ataDude]

How long til you make some type of crossover between the exhausts? I have heard that a one exhaust per cylinder design such as you have does not perform as well as duals with a crossover pipe between the two.

I've heard the same thing... it has to do with the exhaust from one cylinder helping to scavenge (suck) the exhaust gases out from the other. But, I do like the sound so... that will be last, if at all. And, I'm not ready to be crawling on the garage floor again... at least for a while.

Next up will be Ken's airbox eliminator setup and the Two Brother's fuel box. Already have the fuel box and the filter should be in today.

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[0228lisa]

Any of you technically savvy guys, who know all this sh...tuff can come over to my house any time. Mod parts (for my Spyder of course) and beer on me. BYOT....Bring your own tools.

 

[ataDude]

JAX is just a tad far to be hauling tools and welding equipment... but I'll keep that in mind.

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Any of you technically savvy guys, who know all this sh...tuff can come over to my house any time. Mod parts (for my Spyder of course) and beer on me. BYOT....Bring your own tools.

 

[rleathen]

Hey ATADUDE how are your A-Arm driving lights working. You mentioned that the vibration eventually causes them to loosen up and swivel up and that you used RTV as a quick a dirty fix. Have you come up with a more permanent solution. I have the exact same lights and before I mount them as you did it would be nice to know what otehr problems/challenges I may encountered with them.

Thanks in advance.

 

[ataDude]

The small, invisible blob of ATV is still working even after those runs (where I loan my bike to a maniac) of triple-digit speeds... doesn't need a fix... it is fixed.

I must note, however, that guy only does that on deserted farm roads. Most of the time, he drives sanely.

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Hey ATADUDE how are your A-Arm driving lights working. You mentioned that the vibration eventually causes them to loosen up and swivel up and that you used RTV as a quick a dirty fix. Have you come up with a more permanent solution. I have the exact same lights and before I mount them as you did it would be nice to know what otehr problems/challenges I may encountered with them.

Thanks in advance.

 

[ataDude]

This week's...

... mods.

I made the intentional mistake of putting on two performance goodies at the same time... now, I'll not be able to definitively say one or the other is good... or bad... only that the combination works or doesn't.

The evoluzion.net race air filter was installed... and it eliminates the entire greasy, oily stock airbox... and it was bad this time. The new filter plumbing shoots any blow-by directly back into the FI throttle bodies.

The install took maybe an hour... top and side panels require removal. Then, the airbox cover and box itself must be removed. Don't try this unless you have a very short, torx driver... like a ratcheting type.... for the six torx bolts holding the box to the FI intakes.

The Two Brother's Racing Juice Box was also installed... now that I'm running freer flowing pipes and air intake. It was pretty much an easy install (45 minutes) except that the wiring for the Box to the O2 sensor is still short... by about 12-15 inches. Cut/add/solder/shrink wrap added maybe 15 minutes.

I placed the Juice Box controller about where Lamont did... there's not too many choices if you want easy access to it. (see bottom of second pic).

Performance? Will have to wait until this weekend... it's raining... but we need it.

Update 4 April 2009: From a performance perspective, the combination appears to work very, very well. The benchmark DL1000 bike's typical 8-10 bike-length advantage was decreased to next to nothing. I'm guessing a 7-10 HP increase from the two mods combined.

However, as bjt stated below, the intake noise is bothersome at best... head-pounding at the worst. I can't imagine a trip with this intake on... it's just too noisy for me behind a full shield.

 

[bjt]

I like the looks of the race airflow system but I'm guessing you get quite a bit more air intake noise and I'm aiming for a quieter ride. I did see an aftermarket pipe advertised at my dealer today that stated it had good performance gains while maintaining a quieter ride. I may consider that along with the Magic Man 90 if they are compatible with each other. The exhaust was a White Bros. I think. :dontknow: ..... Enough about me, your setup looks good. :thumbup:

EDIT: Well I just did a Google search on the White Bros. exhaust and it seems they are no longer in business. One link took me to Two Brothers, maybe some type of business change, buyout or partnership? Maybe I should tell the dealer its time to update his product posters...

 

[ataDude]

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White Brothers makes good stuff... and they have a very good reputation!

And, I hooked up my ear bud extension for the Garmin Nuvi MP3 player at the same time as installing the intake. You're right... it is louder... but music will make it OK... I hope.

I've got the Valentine One now visual only... with very bright LEDs right in front.

And, as much as I "piddle", not having the large plastic hunk under the hood will be pleasant.
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I like the looks of the race airflow system but I'm guessing you get quite a bit more air intake noise and I'm aiming for a quieter ride. I did see an aftermarket pipe advertised at my dealer today that stated it had good performance gains while maintaining a quieter ride. I may consider that along with the Magic Man 90 if they are compatible with each other. The exhaust was a White Bros. I think. :dontknow: ..... Enough about me, your setup looks good. :thumbup:

 

[bjt]

And, as much as I "piddle", not having the large plastic hunk under the hood will be pleasant.

Maybe it means something different in Texas than it does in Michigan but "piddle" is what I say that a puppy does when it gets too excited. pps:

 

[ataDude]

Maybe it means something different in Texas than it does in Michigan but "piddle" is what I say that a puppy does when it gets too excited. pps:

 

[Firefly]

I forget how the spyder sounded before putting the race airflow on. Recently I put a CalSci shield on until it warms up a bit more - and noticed that I really hear a lot more since I don't have as much wind blowing on my helmet.

I hear the intake more than the Hindle - LOL.

It is nice not to worry about the oil box leakage, um - I mean air box leaking oil -

I'm building a small insulated box to go around the race airflow setup, that will connect via ducts to dual vents I'm installing on the front of Spyder - for a cold-air intake setup. This will get cool air into the intake, keep the hot engine air away, and quiet the intake down a bit.