not a happy oil change at all

[Donzo]

I use car ramps to get the Spyder up and easy to get to - works great and much easier than jacking up. I have an ATV jack if I need to remove wheels or adjust the belt - but, The car ramps see more use.

 

[boborgera]

:agree:

The only things on the Spyder I use the a torque wrench for are the wheels and the front sprocket bolt.

Yep!
After that it's only taking up space in my tool box.

 

[sabunim5]

I changed my oil without jacking it up. :dontknow:

Me too. Several times.

 

[sabunim5]

Does anybody remove the plastic panel tray thing under the oil filter like the book says or do you work around it?

I have never had to remove mine and no mess was made after multiple oil changes. Just lucky, I guess. :dontknow:

 

[Firefly]

I hope i dont but i will check if there is a torq speck for it. By the way do you have the info of the bolts you purchased just in case? opcorn:
I just went out and check to see if i could get the allen in it i did get it in but it is over tightened and just started to round out so i'am taking it to the dealer and let them get it out but i have to wait till they get the new plug in should be friday. i will have them take the old one out save the oil put new one in then put the oil back in. I know someone might wonder why not just let them do the oil change and its because i have other things i want to do on the bottom and i bought the material already.

If you have a problem getting a plug let me know--- I have a few here.....

 

[Roger]

One of the worst things to use is a torque wrench. Especially a cheap one. They cause more headaches than good.

Well i think the reason for the torq spec is because of the copper washer ergo the 15lbs of torq. If mine was done correctly i don't believe i would have had a problem I do own a good torq wrench. Whats that old!!! saying i think scotty penned it :joke: "IF YOU WANT IT DONE RIGHT DO IT YOURSELF" but thank you anyway justin

If you have a problem getting a plug let me know--- I have a few here.....

Thank you firefly i spoke with my dealer told him the problem and he wants to make it right as i knew he would but if i need one i will let you know. :2thumbs:

 

[Justin]

Well i think the reason for the torq spec is because of the copper washer ergo the 15lbs of torq. If mine was done correctly i don't believe i would have had a problem I do own a good torq wrench. Whats that old!!! saying i think scotty penned it :joke: "IF YOU WANT IT DONE RIGHT DO IT YOURSELF" but thank you anyway justin



Thank you firefly i spoke with my dealer told him the problem and he wants to make it right as i knew he would but if i need one i will let you know. :2thumbs:

The reason it is too tight is because he used a torque wrench.lol

 

[spyryder]

It still sticks even if you don't tighten it that much.....at least there's not much worry of it falling out. ray:

 

[NancysToy]

Actually, I feel the drain plugs are one of the good places to use a torque wrench. I have seen far more drain plugs "freeze" from having an Armstrong torque wrench used, than ones that were tightened to spec with a good torque wrench, that has been properly stored and periodically checked for accuracy. Biggest cause of a faulty ratcheting torque wrench is failure to back off the spring tension before you put it away. The spring can take a set, and it will over-torque.

One of the other problems is reusing the "crush" washer. When used, a copper washer is compressed slightly. If you look at yours carefully, you may see the indentation from the drain plug. After a while, it becomes more dense, and it doesn't give much. This makes it "lock" into place, especially if over-torqued. I don't always replace the copper washers (except on a brake or clutch system), but I always inspect them and replace them if the are noticeably scratched or indented, or if they have been used a few times. They are relatively cheap...cheaper than drain plugs.

Just my 2¢.

 

[boborgera]

Actually, I feel the drain plugs are one of the good places to use a torque wrench. I have seen far more drain plugs "freeze" from having an Armstrong torque wrench used, than ones that were tightened to spec with a good torque wrench, that has been properly stored and periodically checked for accuracy. Biggest cause of a faulty ratcheting torque wrench is failure to back off the spring tension before you put it away. The spring can take a set, and it will over-torque.

One of the other problems is reusing the "crush" washer. When used, a copper washer is compressed slightly. If you look at yours carefully, you may see the indentation from the drain plug. After a while, it becomes more dense, and it doesn't give much. This makes it "lock" into place, especially if over-torqued. I don't always replace the copper washers (except on a brake or clutch system), but I always inspect them and replace them if the are noticeably scratched or indented, or if they have been used a few times. They are relatively cheap...cheaper than drain plugs.

Just my 2¢.

:thumbup:
Your right Scotty, But in this case He chewed up the Allen head using a# T40
once it's damaged from the #T40 the 6mm Allen will just damage it more.

 

[SpyderWolf]

I hope i dont but i will check if there is a torq speck for it. By the way do you have the info of the bolts you purchased just in case? opcorn:

I am thinking they were something like an M6 bolt, but cannot remember exactly. I took the good one with me, and the hardware store I stopped at had a large selection of allen head bolts. We also fit a nut on the end of the good one, and made sure it would fit the new ones properly, in order to make sure nothing was going to be cross threaded.

 

[Lamonster]

By the way we checked Ron's plugs again and they are definitely Torx nojoke

 

[Firefly]

By the way we checked Ron's plugs again and they are definitely Torx nojoke

That is really strange.

 

[hondaman]

I have not found any torx on my spyder but my jeep is loaded with them and my can-am outlander has a few.There is nothing good about a torx.

 

[Lamonster]

I have not found any torx on my spyder but my jeep is loaded with them and my can-am outlander has a few.There is nothing good about a torx.

All your panels are held on by #30 torx

 

[SpyderWolf]

By the way we checked Ron's plugs again and they are definitely Torx nojoke

This doesn't surprise me too much, as we are talking about Ron after all. :joke:

 

[NancysToy]

:thumbup:
Your right Scotty, But in this case He chewed up the Allen head using a# T40
once it's damaged from the #T40 the 6mm Allen will just damage it more.

Yeah, dead meat after that. I don't trust those L-shaped allen wrenches, either. They put too much force in a direction that wants to twist the hex out of the hole instead of turn it. I find a good hex head socket on a ratchet or ratcheting torque wrench to be more positive.

 

[Firefly]

Yeah, dead meat after that. I don't trust those L-shaped allen wrenches, either. They put too much force in a direction that wants to twist the hex out of the hole instead of turn it. I find a good hex head socket on a ratchet or ratcheting torque wrench to be more positive.

:agree:

After my first oil change I went out and bought a set of metric hex sockets.

 

[Raptor]

:agree:

After my first oil change I went out and bought a set of metric hex sockets.

Which is exactly what I will be doing. With my luck I'll get down there and they'll be Torx!! :roflblack: But seriously, those MP01 and MP02 plugs are looking pretty darn good right now!

 

[hondaman]

All your panels are held on by #30 torx

forgot about them.have not had the panels off for a year.Just use the zeus fasteners for a quick oil level check.