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not a happy oil change at all

Roger

Roger

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:gaah::gaah::gaah: To make a very long story short took me exactly 6hrs to get NOTHING :gaah: done had to go to 5 or 6 different stores to find all the tools to do the job correctly including an atv jack i first tried to jack the front of the bike with a regular floor jack but it slipped off the jack ended up stuck in between the arm frame broke some plastic :gaah:. So i learned my lesson and bought the correct jack. Now the bike is in the air all nice and sturdy the panels are off so i get my new t40 for the oil plug and then it happened it started to round out. I started thinking when the oil was changed at the shop they did not use a torq wrench they just used brute force, i know cause i watched but at that time i did not know they needed to be torqed so now i guess i will call them to let them know of my problem. I'am postive he will make good on it cause it will bother him cause that is the type of owner he is.
 
You need a 6mm ALLEN for the drain plug and a 5 mm for the filter. Go back and try that. Make sure you seat the allen well before trying to turn.
 
Roger said:
:gaah::gaah::gaah: To make a very long story short took me exactly 6hrs to get NOTHING :gaah: done had to go to 5 or 6 different stores to find all the tools to do the job correctly including an atv jack i first tried to jack the front of the bike with a regular floor jack but it slipped off the jack ended up stuck in between the arm frame broke some plastic :gaah:. So i learned my lesson and bought the correct jack. Now the bike is in the air all nice and sturdy the panels are off so i get my new t40 for the oil plug and then it happened it started to round out. I started thinking when the oil was changed at the shop they did not use a torq wrench they just used brute force, i know cause i watched but at that time i did not know they needed to be torqed so now i guess i will call them to let them know of my problem. I'am postive he will make good on it cause it will bother him cause that is the type of owner he is.
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You should of used the garage mahal:lecturef_smilie::lecturef_smilie::lecturef_smilie:
 
Roger said:
:gaah::gaah::gaah: To make a very long story short took me exactly 6hrs to get NOTHING :gaah: done had to go to 5 or 6 different stores to find all the tools to do the job correctly including an atv jack i first tried to jack the front of the bike with a regular floor jack but it slipped off the jack ended up stuck in between the arm frame broke some plastic :gaah:. So i learned my lesson and bought the correct jack. Now the bike is in the air all nice and sturdy the panels are off so i get my new t40 for the oil plug and then it happened it started to round out. I started thinking when the oil was changed at the shop they did not use a torq wrench they just used brute force, i know cause i watched but at that time i did not know they needed to be torqed so now i guess i will call them to let them know of my problem. I'am postive he will make good on it cause it will bother him cause that is the type of owner he is.
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Too late now but you sure it takes a T40, and not a 6mm allen??
 
Trickie Dick said:
You need a 6mm ALLEN for the drain plug and a 5 mm for the filter. Go back and try that. Make sure you seat the allen well before trying to turn.
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boborgera said:
:dontknow:
Too late now but you sure it takes a T40, and not a 6mm allen??
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I saw that thread yesterday so i sent a message to lamont to confirm my idea and he said i was correct now i beg you please double check this with him just to double confirm. :helpsmilie:
 
I was trying to find the thread wear bajaron noticed those are torqs not allen and he said 6mm also but if you match a 6mm allen it equals a t40 in my case the mechanic just over tightened i believe. :dontknow:
 
Roger said:
I saw that thread yesterday so i sent a message to lamont to confirm my idea and he said i was correct now i beg you please double check this with him just to double confirm. :helpsmilie:
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Changed my oil [myself] 6 times, 6mm and 5.:dontknow:
My Spyder is an 08 Sm5, Could that make a difference?:dontknow:
P/S A toque will strip out a tight Allen.
 
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Roger said:
maybe my friend i'am not so sure anymore still a little miffed :chill:
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Relax, Just remember this probably isn't the first time something went wrong and believe me it won't be the last. nojoke
Did i ever tell you about the time i used Crazy glue on my Eye Glasses':shocked:
 
We use the two Allen wrenches in the toolkit to change the oil. The large one works in the drain plugs and the smaller one works on the filter cap. A 6" piece of copper tubing works great as a breaker bar on those small wrenches. Just be sure the Allen wrench is fully seated in the bolt before you start reefing on it.
 
OK i think we got this cleared up now thank you everyone now that i took a shave and hot shower and had a hot meal i will try the allen wrench tomorrow if i get it loose i will be my happy self again. Does anybody remove the plastic panel tray thing under the oil filter like the book says or do you work around it?
 
Roger said:
OK i think we got this cleared up now thank you everyone now that i took a shave and hot shower and had a hot meal i will try the allen wrench tomorrow if i get it loose i will be my happy self again. Does anybody remove the plastic panel tray thing under the oil filter like the book says or do you work around it?
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I take mine off. It's just two 10mm bolts. No need to jack the bike up.
 
Roger said:
OK i think we got this cleared up now thank you everyone now that i took a shave and hot shower and had a hot meal i will try the allen wrench tomorrow if i get it loose i will be my happy self again. Does anybody remove the plastic panel tray thing under the oil filter like the book says or do you work around it?
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Definitely remove it unless you don't care about the oil running all over it.

Also, if you have an SE5 with the transmission filter treat those bolts with a gentle touch as I snapped one off during the first oil change I did on my wife's Spyder. :gaah: I had to visit 4 different hardware stores before I found a replacement. I bought 4 of them for just in case. ;)
 
SpyderWolf said:
Definitely remove it unless you don't care about the oil running all over it.

Also, if you have an SE5 with the transmission filter treat those bolts with a gentle touch as I snapped one off during the first oil change I did on my wife's Spyder. :gaah: I had to visit 4 different hardware stores before I found a replacement. I bought 4 of them for just in case. ;)
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I hope i dont but i will check if there is a torq speck for it. By the way do you have the info of the bolts you purchased just in case? :popcorn:
I just went out and check to see if i could get the allen in it i did get it in but it is over tightened and just started to round out so i'am taking it to the dealer and let them get it out but i have to wait till they get the new plug in should be friday. i will have them take the old one out save the oil put new one in then put the oil back in. I know someone might wonder why not just let them do the oil change and its because i have other things i want to do on the bottom and i bought the material already.
 
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I hope i dont but i will check if there is a torq speck for it. By the way do you have the info of the bolts you purchased just in case? :popcorn:
I just went out and check to see if i could get the allen in it i did get it in but it is over tightened and just started to round out so i'am taking it to the dealer and let them get it out but i have to wait till they get the new plug in should be friday. i will have them take the old one out save the oil put new one in then put the oil back in. I know someone might wonder why not just let them do the oil change and its because i have other things i want to do on the bottom and i bought the material already.
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One of the worst things to use is a torque wrench. Especially a cheap one. They cause more headaches than good.
 
Justin said:
One of the worst things to use is a torque wrench. Especially a cheap one. They cause more headaches than good.
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:agree:

The only things on the Spyder I use the a torque wrench for are the wheels and the front sprocket bolt.

No need to use it on the oil drain plugs--- just go by feel.
 
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