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My new Oil Catch Can
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EricDeub
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Looks good, just a few questions please...
I have seen similar set ups, but yours is one of the neatest installs I have seen yet. Where did you get your filter, and have you had any trouble with it seeping from the bottom? Some that have used a filte system like this end up with a slow leak at the bottom of the catch bowe.l Looks Good!!!
PS I think you answered where before I could get this posted, but what if any leaking?
Ride Safe out there...
I have seen similar set ups, but yours is one of the neatest installs I have seen yet. Where did you get your filter, and have you had any trouble with it seeping from the bottom? Some that have used a filte system like this end up with a slow leak at the bottom of the catch bowe.l Looks Good!!!
PS I think you answered where before I could get this posted, but what if any leaking?
Ride Safe out there...
EricDeub
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I just installed it today so time will tell. It has a small valve on the bottom and a rubber safety cap to keep it from seeping so we will see in a few weeks if it leaks or not. I got it on ebay, I posted a link
http://stores.ebay.com/White-Sands-Performance
http://stores.ebay.com/White-Sands-Performance
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Big Arm
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I sealed the bottom with silicone, and unscrew the bowl to empty.
fastfraser
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:thumbup:Nice and neat ! Just wondering when you get a little blow by the filter if oil will pool in the long loop of hose you have attatched to the air filter ?:dontknow: 
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bjt
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I think it looks great. Looks like you left the filter stone in there. IMO, with the stone left in place, there should be little to no blow by of oil as the misted oil will collect on the stone and then drip down to the bowl. :thumbup:
I think the problem with the early iterations of this type of filter was removing the stone, leaving the inside the bowl basically open to atmosphere.
I think the problem with the early iterations of this type of filter was removing the stone, leaving the inside the bowl basically open to atmosphere.
SpyderWolf
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:congrats:
That looks very nice and clean now.
That looks very nice and clean now.
WackyDan
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Eric,
Only concern is oil blowing by the catch can.. I've always lost oil out of mine even though I below the full mark on the dip. Usually it was just enough to drip out of the breather element I had on the outbound side of the filter can.
However, my O2 sensor went bad and the bike was running so crappy that I burped at least 1/3 quart out the catch can and breather and all over the inside of the tuperware, to the point it was streaming out the black vent formed in that section.
I bring that up as you could get oil pooling in the bottom of the loop increasing back pressure on the crank vent and that would be bad. I suggest you periodically check the loop by disconnecting one end and seeing what comes out. Either that, reswizzle it so the loop is top side of the catch can, and you won't have to worry about it at all.
Also... That valve on the bottom of the catch can will need to be sealed with some black rtv or other goo. It is meant to seal against air pressure from a compressor. The pressure in that bowl from a compressor keeps the plunger and O ring tight against where it seals or stops. With no pressure like it was designed for, Oil will leak through it.. I guarantee it.
Only concern is oil blowing by the catch can.. I've always lost oil out of mine even though I below the full mark on the dip. Usually it was just enough to drip out of the breather element I had on the outbound side of the filter can.
However, my O2 sensor went bad and the bike was running so crappy that I burped at least 1/3 quart out the catch can and breather and all over the inside of the tuperware, to the point it was streaming out the black vent formed in that section.
I bring that up as you could get oil pooling in the bottom of the loop increasing back pressure on the crank vent and that would be bad. I suggest you periodically check the loop by disconnecting one end and seeing what comes out. Either that, reswizzle it so the loop is top side of the catch can, and you won't have to worry about it at all.
Also... That valve on the bottom of the catch can will need to be sealed with some black rtv or other goo. It is meant to seal against air pressure from a compressor. The pressure in that bowl from a compressor keeps the plunger and O ring tight against where it seals or stops. With no pressure like it was designed for, Oil will leak through it.. I guarantee it.
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WackyDan
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It gives the oil vapors and oil from crank case vent a place to condense/collect instead of burping straight up to the airbox and making a mess of things.
Most of us simply put a breather element on the other side of the catch can. Eric looped his back to the airbox... which is a good idea as the longer the vapors and oil has to travel the less likely it will get to the airbox to begin with.
If you search on spyderlovers for oil catch can you will find several different methods for doing this mod. All pretty much work....Some are cheap, some cost a little more... Some are pretty looking, and some just plain get the job done... If you choose one it will be what ever one makes you feel closer to solving the problem than the others do... there is no "right" way to stop the oil in the airbox issue... they all seem to work to some degree or work completely.
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SpyderWolf
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That makes a lot of sense, and it will be very interesting to see your results after a while. Thanks for sharing this with us.
bjt
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On your setup, did you remove the stone filter from the inside of the catch can? Most of the previous ones I saw posted here had removed the internal filter on the catch can and they were just depending on gravity to pull the oil out of the crankcase gases.
xpeschon
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Its hard to tell in the second set of pictures but in the first set I see you still have the black tip on the very bottom of the catch canister,, the closes part to that rubber tip is the exhaust,, By the sounds if it I believe you will have no problem with leakage so I would remove that rubber tip,, I know I did...
X-Joe
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WackyDan
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I would occasionally pull the hose from the airbox while the bike is running and make sure I'm getting the puffing of air that the vent produces. Mainly as that filterstone is meant to filter air and small particles... over time, the oil might sludge up on that stone. I drilled a few small holes in mine at the bottom and stuffed the center with some filter foam...No problems with it to date though I take it apart and clean the foam every oil change and check for that puffing.
Nice job on this... This is the way I should have done mine originally with loop.
I would occasionally pull the hose from the airbox while the bike is running and make sure I'm getting the puffing of air that the vent produces. Mainly as that filterstone is meant to filter air and small particles... over time, the oil might sludge up on that stone. I drilled a few small holes in mine at the bottom and stuffed the center with some filter foam...No problems with it to date though I take it apart and clean the foam every oil change and check for that puffing.
Nice job on this... This is the way I should have done mine originally with loop.
New mod to my catch can. I did this to keep an eye on the bottom loop for oil pooling and so I can see how well it is working. :thumbup:
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