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LIMP MODE = Near Death Experience...

Ughhh.. whatever......

Most of us would prefer not to have this 'limp mode' BS occur due to the OBVIOUS safety issues. Never had this happen on my 2008 GS or 2012 RT. The RT was FBW just like the F3. I guess I don't care who came up with the idiotic system of limiting you to 40 MPH... it's dangerous. Period.
 
TPS - CODE

Sorry but I disagree and here is why. If there is a TPS fault, the ecu has no idea what you are asking the engine to do throttle wise. If it does not know, fall back to idle is the safest bet. Its no different than how all vehicles acted before fly by wire. When the throttle cable broke, it went to idle. There can be no 5 minute delay as there is no engine control. As I said before, this is an industry standard. I agree you would have preferred not loosing power, the fault is in the TPS, not the fail safe logic. Once the TPS has failed, there is no other safe choice.
JC, this is what may have annoyed Him the most ( and I agree ) .... the reading was " in error " , the TPS didn't fail, the computer ONLY thought there was a problem....... and as far as LIMP MODE goes, most of the time it occurs , it's IN ERROR...... imho BRP has too many over-lapping systems and the computers get confused ( this is also why the Techs have difficulty diagnosing problems - they can't always pin-point them :banghead: ) ....... Mike :thumbup:
 
LISTEN TO THESE PEOPLE

Dan,
I'm sorry to hear that BRP treated you to a "Big eyes, and Brown shorts" moment. :shocked:

But if the throttle position sensor is getting flaky: that can sure do far worse things to you... nojoke
That sensor is reading how much you twist the "loud grip", and relays that information to the computer, and then on to the throttle bodies for execution.
If it can't accurately tell the computer what you want done: you could be in for an even worse ride! :yikes:
I had the TPS get wonky on my 2010 RT, and I got to experience a couple of crazy seconds, right before things shut down...

Guys, this limp mode for a TPS error is actually LESS restrictive than on most automobiles. I know for a fact that a TPS error on any of my drive by wire Fords and GMs instantly results in NO throttle action. IE return to idle. Yes, at 70mph.

This is SAE design standard. The fact that BRP went beyond this and allowed some drivability if available, is more than most others provide and a step outside of design standards.

Now, complain all you like about the TPS failing to begin with, it should not. But the limp mode on TPS failure is indeed an industry standard safety feature for ALL drive by wire engine control systems.

:agree::agree::agree: TOO ALL OF THEIR POSTS :agree::agree::agree:

LISTEN TO THEM THEY ARE CORRECT
:cheers:
 
Colorado Tour

Dependability issues?

Get a backup bike.

Spyder's home in the garage so we're having a trouble free trip.

Hope your dealer finds out what's wrong(in less than a month or two).

:doorag:
 
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