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"JUST DROVE A CAN AM "TRIKE" AND HATED IT. "

Lamonster said:
It was posted and is very sad news. I wouldn't use that to dis the other trikes. I didn't post this as a us against them post, I was just tweaked at how the guy went off about the Spyder as if he was some sort of expert after an hour ride.

My prayers go out the the friends and family of this fellow rider.

Of course, I too feel bad for this man's family and friends -- it's always sad to lose a fellow rider. My original post was more terse than I had planned due to time constraints. Reading it after the fact, I see how many would interpret it as a snide and nasty retort based on another's tragedy -- for that I sincerely apologize to the members of this forum. Luckily, we have a good moderator in Lamonster...

That being said, if I'd had more time yesterday, what I might have said is a discussion of this accident as regards the relative stability of a traditional trike vs the Spyder might save some lives. I come from a military aviation background. Discussing an accident after the fact is one of the primary tools used to prevent future accidents. These discussions were frank, open and dispassionate dissections of tragic events. Members participated without bias or prejudice with only one goal -- to understand what happened to prevent it happening again.

While one may consider my original suggestion tactless and impolitic (especially in light of the timing), the fact remains training and educating riders is by far the MOST EFFECTIVE method to prevent accidents. To be effective, a rider's training and education must include an understanding of the limitations of the machine they are riding.

I will admit basing the discussion on a newspaper account of the accident is a bit careless -- to have real value, such discussions should be based on fact, not supposition. But even if the individual involved did not lose control after lifting a rear wheel in a turn (as suggested in the newspaper article) every traditional trike rider knows -- or should know -- this is a dangerous possibility even under ideal riding conditions. Throw in an emergency avoidance maneuver and things can get out of hand very quickly.

I would guess the majority of members on the Goldwing site understand the compromises required to modify a motorcycle for trike duty. However, a general discussion of the physics involved with mention of how the Spyder's configuration and electronic systems -- specifically the VSS -- can aid a rider in emergency situations might prove enlightening for those with open minds.

Based on my experience, however, no amount of logical discussion will persuade those who refuse to "live and learn." As one man said, "Against logic, there is no better shield than ignorance."

Again, I apologize if I offended any members on this forum. I enjoy reading and posting here.

Regards,

Mark
 
my 2nd ex didn't understand me ... or my girlfriend .... i guess she never will ...... i don't know maybe it's me ... but i'm just not sold on it ... 28 years ....wow i've had 2 wives never made is past 10 with either .... do u think i'm doing something wrong ???
 
Of course I liked the Spyder as soon as I test rode it but you might have guessed that if you looked at my avatar photo. I've built two of those Yamaha TW200 "tadpole" trikes. Before that I built two "off road" recumbent bicycle "tadpole" trikes. Before that I was riding a Greenspeed, an Australian recumbent "tadpole" trike.

I had to laugh when the "debriefing" took pace, after the Spyder test ride, because the guy was fishing for some exuberance from me, or remarks, about riding a trike that had the double wheels in front. I told him it is the only sensable way to design a trike. Then I pointed to the back of my truck in the parking lot. I had one of my TWTrikes in there because I was about to head up to Utah with it. Then he understood why I wasn't more interested in the fact that the Spyder had two wheels up front. If they were in back I wouldn't have been there for a test ride in the first place.

Long live the tadpole, we don't need the frogs.

Frank
 
I apologize here as well for my harsh reaction to the lame brain that posted about the spyder..

Although I would love to race him down the dragon.. see if lamonster can get the stretch closed for about 10 minutes... I may take that long after I dust him through the first 11 corners, and take it easy the rest of the way..

Man, if you could use Both lanes on that HWY without worrying about traffic.. That would be nice.
 
Ryno said:
I apologize here as well for my harsh reaction to the lame brain that posted about the spyder..

Although I would love to race him down the dragon.. see if lamonster can get the stretch closed for about 10 minutes... I may take that long after I dust him through the first 11 corners, and take it easy the rest of the way..

Man, if you could use Both lanes on that HWY without worrying about traffic.. That would be nice.

I was waiting on the race. :dontknow: :doorag:
 
This part is the one i like.

4. at 60 mph the bike revs at 4500-annoyingly loud

Maybe he don't know about a bike called Harley Davidson or never around one.
 
The more I think about this guy, the more obvious it gets; he's a collector/seller, not a ryder. I've been riding more than 52 years, haven't found a bike I really didn't like, but then the last few got close to 100K put on them. I keep 'em for a while.
 
retread said:
The more I think about this guy, the more obvious it gets; he's a collector/seller, not a ryder. I've been riding more than 52 years, haven't found a bike I really didn't like, but then the last few got close to 100K put on them. I keep 'em for a while.
I suspect you're right. Just buys them to turn them, and rides just enough to feel he is part of the big scheme. I will admit that I collect, too. 23 motorcycles in the garage right now, but I don't sell much. Hope that makes me different. Still have the motorcycle I raced when I was 18, so I keep them a while, too. My 50th year of riding, and will admit that I have had some bikes I wasn't that fond of. My Honda fours were no treat, although I've owned several, and rode them all a long time. I have nothing good to say about my BSA Victor 441, either. Makes my starting leg hurt just to say the name! The Goldstar and XLCH weren't treats to start, but they were decent machines for the time. Never a fan of two-strokes, either, although an old Hodaka I had was the best dirt machine I ever owned. Bottom line...we can love them or hate them, and even state our opinions, but to be closed-minded and condemn any ride is just wrong. They all have good and bad points, and it is a highly individual interpretation of what is good or bad. Glad he's on another forum.
-Scotty
 
NancysToy said:
Never a fan of two-strokes, either, although an old Hodaka I had was the best dirt machine I ever owned. -Scotty

Now that's funny. The reason I can wrench on bikes now is because I owned a Hodaka Super Rat ace 100. I would ride it for 2 hours and wrench on it the rest of the day. It was a love/hate thing to me. ;D :doorag:
 
Lamonster said:
Now that's funny. The reason I can wrench on bikes now is because I owned a Hodaka Super Rat ace 100. I would ride it for 2 hours and wrench on it the rest of the day. It was a love/hate thing to me. ;D :doorag:
You think they are love/hate...how about the Brit bikes? ;D Mine was a hopped up and stripped down Ace 90, BTW.
 
trikester said:
Tell me about it. I now own 10 Brit bikes!

Frank

I've ride an '07 Triumph Tiger 1050 triple -- so far nothing to hate. I guess that makes it a love, love... uh, love relationship!


Regards,

Mark
 
SpyderMark said:
I've ride an '07 Triumph Tiger 1050 triple -- so far nothing to hate. I guess that makes it a love, love... uh, love relationship!
I don't have any experience with the modern ones. Just lots of old ones. Have a 65 Bonneville in the garage right now and just looked at a 60 Cub that I am considering. Definitely high on the love/hate scale, but The love side always wins.
-Scotty
 
NancysToy said:
I don't have any experience with the modern ones. Just lots of old ones. Have a 65 Bonneville in the garage right now and just looked at a 60 Cub that I am considering. Definitely high on the love/hate scale, but The love side always wins.
-Scotty

Mine start with a 1927 Sunbeam and end with a 1954 AJS 18CS all the others are in between.

Frank
 
trikester said:
Mine start with a 1927 Sunbeam and end with a 1954 AJS 18CS all the others are in between.

Frank
Sounds like my kind of torture. Too bad you're half way across the country, I'd love to see your stuff. I delight in the pre-war stuff, but have neither the space nor the money to feed the habit. My collection is mostly early sixties Hondas, but I keep a Brit bike or two just to remind me how much I love/hate them.
-Scotty
 
Sounds like my kind of torture. Too bad you're half way across the country, I'd love to see your stuff. I delight in the pre-war stuff, but have neither the space nor the money to feed the habit. My collection is mostly early sixties Hondas, but I keep a Brit bike or two just to remind me how much I love/hate them.
-Scotty

When I bought my little desert vacation cabin on five acres in eastern San Diego County CA, the guy on the adjacent five is a "snow bird" from Michigan (he always goes back there for the summer). He is a life long (now 86) motorcycle enthusiast and hard rider. You can imagine how happy he was to see a guy with an antique collection buy the place next door. :D

However he only gets to see them one or two at a time when I haul a bike or two out there for some lonely desert highway riding. So he's always asking me when I'm going to bring another antique out. But last Spring he was asking; "when are you going to bring that Spyder out here so I can see it before I go back to Michigan?" I did and he did. My first open highway cruise with the Spyder was to El Centro (jewel of the desert?) and back. I didn't stop in El Centro. :shocked:

Frank
 
Now that's funny. The reason I can wrench on bikes now is because I owned a Hodaka Super Rat ace 100. I would ride it for 2 hours and wrench on it the rest of the day. It was a love/hate thing to me. ;D :doorag:
Hodaka 125 Combat Wombat here! Was my first dirt bike and spent a lot of time in SE Ohio near the WV line. That thing had a power band about 5 rpm wide. If you were on it... hold on! However, if you got off it going uphill, be prepared to slide back to the bottom.
:D
 
Hodaka 125 Combat Wombat here! Was my first dirt bike and spent a lot of time in SE Ohio near the WV line. That thing had a power band about 5 rpm wide. If you were on it... hold on! However, if you got off it going uphill, be prepared to slide back to the bottom.
:D

Forgot about the Combat Wombat.:D
Hodaka had the coolest names for their bikes. :2thumbs:

Super Rat
Combat Wombat
Dirt Squirt
Road Toad

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I loved the spyder as soon as I seen them. It was even more exciting when I was the first customer at my dealership to test drive the demo that happened to roll out of the service area once it was all set up to ride. Now I have a red spyder on order and can't wait for it to arrive.
I work with a gal that is a Harley fan, she doesn't ride bikes. Her brother is a harley
guy. She told me that the Harley riders or bikers in general will probably laugh at the spyder. I told her most bikers that I've talked to, Harley riders alike think it is cool.
Some bikers will like it, others may buy them others may not. To each there own. I had an ST1300 and I traded that for the spyder. For me it just feels safer riding two up with my teenage kids and they like the fun it gives them. Isn't that what it's all about anyhow? FUN!
 
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