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Its official: BajaRon's swaybar is a MUST have for all RT owners!

From 12/18/12:
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Originally Posted by DR BuckSo what makes one sway bar better than another? Are they shaped differently, different tensile in the metal or what?
"Yes... here's a couple of hints.... BajaRon's new swaybar is exactly the same shape as the BRP oem bar, but it is a much larger diameter and therefore a much stiffer bar. By comparison, the Evolucione bar used on some earlier RTs was exactly the same diameter as oem but moved the connection holes at the end of the bar in an attempt to achieve a stiffer bar. If I had an Evo bar installed on an RT I would replace it immediately with Ron's new bar! Been there, Done That!"

but, if you live in the flatlands or hardly ever ride the twisties, you may never notice the difference. The new bar will be more noticeable in very aggressive riding.

Jack


Thanks Jack. Info and input much appreciated.

Mike
Idaho
www.rtwrder.net
 
Thanks Jack. Info and input much appreciated.

Mike
Idaho
www.rtwrder.net

As Jack says, EVO simply shortened the sway bar arms to achieve a stiffer action. This moves the Heim Joint Link forward and out of the correct vertical orientation. This alone would not be so much of an issue except that there is very little clearance between the front of the Heim Joint Link and the A-Arm even with the longer OEM bar arm length.

I have been told that contact between the Heim Joint Link and the A-Arm can occur with the EVO bar. I have also been told that some joints have been damaged, though I have not heard of any Link failures. I have not verified these statements. I just put this out as information that you might want to look into if you have an EVO bar mounted.

It is easy to check and see if you are getting contact between your Heim Joint Links and the A-Arm. If you are running the EVO bar I would highly recommend doing this.

All of this is very obvious when you look at your Spyder.

Jack up your Spyder to where you can get under and take a good look at the bottom of the Heim Joint Links. Look closely at the area where the Link comes close to the A-Arm at the bottom. A flashlight may be helpful. If the paint on the A-Arm shows wear then you are getting contact. If this is the case then check your Heim Joint Links for cracks or other signs of damage.

Here is a picture, borrowed without permission... :pray: to show what I mean. Check for clearance and possible contact in the area of the GREEN Arrow. As you can see, even with the original bar there isn't a lot of room between the Heim Joint Link and the A-Arm. It doesn't take much to reduce this small amount of clearance to less than zero as your suspension articulates in cornering, etc.

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I understand why EVO used this approach as it is the easiest and least expensive way to get a stiffer Sway Bar. But anytime you change something you have to consider potential issues that the change may create.

The original Sway Bar arm length, as designed by BRP, is optimal. This is a big reason why I stayed with that dimension. It is more expensive to change bar diameter but the results are much more rewarding and create no new issues. My RT sway bar is also stiffer than the EVO bar so you should still see a marked improvement if you decide to switch.
 
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Thanks Ron. I'll take a look at my bar as soon as I can and will very likely be a customer before our riding season starts next spring.

Mike
Idaho
www.rtwrider.net
 
Well, here it is! I have elka shocks set to 22 clicks. I installed the bar and finally today I had a chance for a ride!!! WOW!!! The difference is dramatic. The first corner seemed to be much quicker and flatter on turn in. This will absolutely prove to be the best $200 I ever spent. I imagine the difference would be even more dramatic with oem shocks! I'm very glad we waited for all the R&D! Thanks ron!!!
larry
 
You guys are just KILLING me! :shocked:
I've got this beauty in my garage all unwrapped and begging to be added to the bike...
But I haven't got a clue or plan yet as to how!
And you're all happier than a bunch of clams in wet sand; and I can't join in the fun! :gaah:
 
From 12/18/12:
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Originally Posted by DR BuckSo what makes one sway bar better than another? Are they shaped differently, different tensile in the metal or what?
"Yes... here's a couple of hints.... BajaRon's new swaybar is exactly the same shape as the BRP oem bar, but it is a much larger diameter and therefore a much stiffer bar. By comparison, the Evolucione bar used on some earlier RTs was exactly the same diameter as oem but moved the connection holes at the end of the bar in an attempt to achieve a stiffer bar. If I had an Evo bar installed on an RT I would replace it immediately with Ron's new bar! Been there, Done That!"

but, if you live in the flatlands or hardly ever ride the twisties, you may never notice the difference. The new bar will be more noticeable in very aggressive riding.

Jack

The one I have on our RT is exactly the same shape as the one that came off, just a larger diameter.
Maybe they made 2 diff. versions?
My wife believes it was the best improvement we made.
 
I realize that the decal will either be upside down, or not visible when mounted. Maybe I should attach them differently. But really, very few people are going to crawl up under a Spyder to see that sticker.
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Ron: You just need to add a caveat on the sticker, "If you can read this, turn me over." Old 4WD bumper snicker.
 
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Yup! :thumbup: :shocked:
If you wagged the tail out about 6", you had already crashed and just didn't know it yet... :yikes:
 
You guys are just KILLING me! :shocked:
I've got this beauty in my garage all unwrapped and begging to be added to the bike...
But I haven't got a clue or plan yet as to how!
And you're all happier than a bunch of clams in wet sand; and I can't join in the fun! :gaah:

There,s Plenty of directions? Shouldn,t Take you a Hour!!:roflblack::shocked::roflblack:
 
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You guys are just KILLING me! :shocked:
I've got this beauty in my garage all unwrapped and begging to be added to the bike...
But I haven't got a clue or plan yet as to how!
And you're all happier than a bunch of clams in wet sand; and I can't join in the fun! :gaah:

 
You guys are just KILLING me! :shocked:
I've got this beauty in my garage all unwrapped and begging to be added to the bike...
But I haven't got a clue or plan yet as to how!
And you're all happier than a bunch of clams in wet sand; and I can't join in the fun! :gaah:[/QUOTE

Bob, if I can do most of the install myself you should be able to do it all by yourself. I got in a 100 mile ride today and it really does make a difference.
 
You guys are just KILLING me! :shocked:
I've got this beauty in my garage all unwrapped and begging to be added to the bike...
But I haven't got a clue or plan yet as to how!
And you're all happier than a bunch of clams in wet sand; and I can't join in the fun! :gaah:[/QUOTE

Bob, if I can do most of the install myself you should be able to do it all by yourself. I got in a 100 mile ride today and it really does make a difference.

He appears to be " Mechanically Challenged???:roflblack::roflblack::hun::hun:
 
"Appears to Be"... I'm the "POSTER CHILD" for what can go wrong; will!
That; plus the fact that the Missus doesn't even know that I've got it... I need to get rid of her for a very long day as well... :shocked:
If she were to walk out into the garage and see me mucking about under the bike clutching another farkle.... You guys could probably buy the bike cheap from her while my meager estate is settled before she goes to jail... :yikes:
 
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