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It is time to legalize.

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OK! Now I'm going to be contentious and bore the crap out of the nay-sayers.....

In the UK we had a huge cotton industry back in the late 19th.century. While we were making our clothes from cotton fibre,
in the US work wear was being manufactured using hemp fibre (Levi jeans etc.). Now when the English cotton Barons discovered this,
having invested millions in cotton plantations in the US ( and some rather more scurrilous business investments...) they were terrified as
they knew full well that hemp could be grown easily in the English climate and that they were going to lose a very valuable corner of the
market. They knew that smoking the buds and leaves was an intoxicant that many found pleasurable so they approached government of
the day ( and quite a few were already part of government ) to see if their expected losses could be nipped in the bud. Sorry for the pun!
Queen Victoria was an early recreational drug user, by the way, and she experimented with both hemp, as it was known then and also arsenic ( :yikes: ) to get her jollies!

Anyway, a huge misinformation campaign was officially launched about the perils of hemp smoking and subsequently it was made illegal.
So the processing and manufacture of hemp products was pretty much limited to rope. The US had the same with the infamous 'Reefer Madness'
posters and campaign.

There have been arguments for and against for many years in the UK and much research has been carried out especially by those in power
who needed to prove that cannabis use was indeed very dangerous and also by those who found that it, in fact, was many times less dangerous than
both tobacco, which kills many thousands each year here, and of course 'The Demon Drink' which is also responsible for thousands of deaths annually.
Strangely, cannabis has never been found to have been solely responsible for any deaths except of course the idiots who get stoned and then decide
to drive a car or bike.
One government scientist was not only discredited but had his career totally ruined for coming out against the government's opinions and stating that
the evidence against the recreational use of cannabis was largely untrue and that much had been 'invented'.

My opinion? Tobacco and alcohol place a huge burden on our health service which is untenable whereas the occasional joint is relatively harmless when used
responsibly. Worse still...I still like an occasional cigarette and am well known for my love of real ale....I haven't smoked a joint for many years. But if I
was offered one I would not reel backwards in terror!
 
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Nice F-3 OJ.

You Sir, are a fine English gentleman. I wished the majority of brain washed Americans would think like you, then this would truly be a great nation.
 
No Studies...Did you just forget??? :dontknow:

Sorry Bob , I didn't waste my time reading any of the links except the first. That first article was filled with all of the same stuff I already know. I'm not bragging here, but I told you before of my research during my wife's illness, you probably can't find anything I have not already seen.

Nobody is denying the effects on the developing brain. And when they show damage in the developed brain it's from doses so high in THC it's impossible to reach those levels on a daily bases. These types of studies do nothing to prove any debilitating effects for the recreational cannabis user. I know no one that can smoke five joints a day. Like I said in an earlier post, you can die from drinking to much water. Enough is enough for this type of skewed reasoning.
 
i will say this as a business owner, I will not hire you if you smoke pot. don't care what you say it will not happen but
i have no problem with legalizing & taxing it.

Well, you may be missing out on some great employees. What an employee does off the clock is frankly none of your business.
As a business owner, my take is as long as it doesn't affect your job performance and you're not doing it AT work.... Then have at it.

Here in Battle Creek, a man was fired from Walmart distribution because he tested positive for pot. The man was a 10 year employee with stage 4 cancer.
Using pot helps the man be able to eat and manages his pain and seizures..... Yet Walmart fired him.
Prescription drugs cause far more addiction and death than all street drugs combined. That is where the real abuse is in America..... Brought to you by big pharma.


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Prescription drugs cause far more addiction and death than all street drugs combined. That is where the real abuse is in America..... Brought to you by big pharma.


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Precisely the original point of this thread. "Who's The Pusher Now"
 
Well, you may be missing out on some great employees. What an employee does off the clock is frankly none of your business.
As a business owner, my take is as long as it doesn't affect your job performance and you're not doing it AT work.... Then have at it.


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How great of an employee would they be if they hurt someone while on the job and the employer was sued for hiring a pot head. Brilliant:banghead:
Even if they haven't used in a few days, and they tested positive, that's a case the employers going to loose...
 
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If you can't cope in this world without drugs, pot, and alcohol maybe you should not be here. Try a little counseling and stop blaming all your problems on your Mom and Dad. They did the best they could with what little they had to work with!
:joke:

Try a little Reality Therapy. It works wonders and makes you feel better about yourself. Well I guess by now you know how I feel about the subject.

Jack
 
How great of an employee would they be if they hurt someone while on the job and the employer was sued for hiring a pot head. Brilliant:banghead:
Even if they haven't used in a few days, and they tested positive, that's a case the employers going to loose...

:agree: My nephew used to work for Kohl's. Used to... :shocked:
When he ran his head into something solid; they took him to the medical station for a bit of a touch-up. They also did some sort of test (Maybe a blood test?), that showed he had been smoking...
He was gone in a flash! :banghead: He lost a really decent job complete with benefits. Worst of all; he KNEW about their drug policy, and chose to ignore it. :gaah:
 
How great of an employee would they be if they hurt someone while on the job and the employer was sued for hiring a pot head. Brilliant:banghead:
Even if they haven't used in a few days, and they tested positive, that's a case the employers going to loose...


Employers (been one for 30+ years) have this thing called insurance for such situations.

Which would you rather have on the job:

1. Guy who drank a case of beer the night before and shows up hungover.
2. Guy who smoked a joint the night before and shows up unaffected and well rested?

I'll take #2 any day of the week.

How many employees show up to work on various legal prescription drugs? Or even over-the-counter meds that could affect them?

Your judgement against 'pot heads' over those who drink or use Rx Meds is based on emotion, not fact and logic.

Again, no one is supporting or promoting being under the influence of any drugs while working, driving,etc.
For all you know, your current employees are popping Vicodin or Oxy every night and still have it in their system the next day.
 
:agree: My nephew used to work for Kohl's. Used to... :shocked:
When he ran his head into something solid; they took him to the medical station for a bit of a touch-up. They also did some sort of test (Maybe a blood test?), that showed he had been smoking...
He was gone in a flash! :banghead: He lost a really decent job complete with benefits. Worst of all; he KNEW about their drug policy, and chose to ignore it. :gaah:

Well.. your nephew did a stupid thing then didn't he?

How is that different than showing up drunk or on opiates from your doctor???

So he got fired and the store had zero liability... right?

My policy is this..... not under the influence while at work... but we might finish the days work early and crack open a beer from the company fridge.
 
:agree: But it wasn't stupid; it was obscenely stupide! :banghead:
He didn't show up to work under the influence. (This happened on a Wednesday...). It was picking up the leftover remnants in his system from the prior weekend. :shocked:
He knew the rules... now; he's a part-time landscaper with zero health benefits, and zero retirement plans. :yikes:
 
About a week ago, or so, someone posted a story about a businessman in Denver closing up and moving to the Carolinas because his workers were showing up "stoned".:dontknow:
 
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