Instrument cluster changed - is it now illegal?

[Aufgeblassen47]

Unbelievably, my DIESEL engine (which SHOULD be good for 100s of 1000s of miles) BLEW recently at on 113,000!!! It was cheaper (supposedly) but not cheap to swap engines with a used one. The replacement engine had 25,000 less miles on it. So I can report actual mileage when selling is 25,000 less than what odometer says? :thumbup:

 

[KC61]

Unbelievably, my DIESEL engine (which SHOULD be good for 100s of 1000s of miles) BLEW recently at on 113,000!!! It was cheaper (supposedly) but not cheap to swap engines with a used one. The replacement engine had 25,000 less miles on it. So I can report actual mileage when selling is 25,000 less than what odometer says? :thumbup:

Don't think so. Mileage is based on the vehicle not the engine.

 

[KyBill]

MC odometers are swapped all the time, some for failure, others to upgrade. New odometer should state 0 miles, nothing illegal about it.

 

[Jackhartjr]

Jerbears post nailed it.

If you sell it YOU are to disclose the actual mileage.
Nothing nefarious here.
I'm a big fan of reading the actual regulations.

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Legally speaking if the dealer or anyone else turns back an Odometer they are committing a crime ……. Mike - ( an x-Leo )…...hyea:

 

[trikermutha]

So what did they do replace it with a used gauge?:dontknow:

If so it should have replaced with New and would have had zero miles on it. Then would have to be disclosed that is was not actual miles if sold as mentioned above.

Did your invoice have a mileage when brought to the shop on the paperwork?

 

[Chupaca]

Here's what you do....

Simply make up a sticker indicatinting mileage at change of cluster and place it under the seat on the frame. :thumbup:

 

[leenanj]

Laws vary by state on this.

In Nevada if a instrument cluster is replaced under warranty the factory must program it with
the same mileage as the old.

If its out of warranty the replacement can read 0 or whatever if it was used and you
are suppose to disclose the actual mileage at time of sale.

Now this is with autos, Motorcycles might be different or no regulations at all.

 

[Navydad]

Nothing illegal about it. The odo wasn't altered it was replaced due to failure. Why should BRP have to keep track of your mileage? What if you bought the part and changed it yourself or what if the odo stopped working and you just didn't get it repaired? Would that be BRP's fault as well? Ride it, enjoy it, and once in awhile do some simple math.

 

[Jeriatric]

Simply make up a sticker indicatinting mileage at change of cluster and place it under the seat one frame. :thumbup:

Hey Chupaca, did you ever consider becoming a Rocket Scientist?

jk

 

[cueman]

Speaking of rockets, if we can send rockets to the moon and Mars, why can’t Canam preset the odometer? :chat: cueman

 

[canamjhb]

When you sell the vehicle you must declare that the mileage shown is not the true actual mileage. That statement will be added to the vehicle title forever. This may affect the value of the vehicle for a future buyer. Therefore, it is important for you to maintain documentation to support what the actual mileage is. In addition, you can demonstrate why the mileage is not actual to any future buyer (the odometer was replaced). PITA but no alternative..... Jim

 

[cueman]

Also, you may want to keep the service order for proof. cueman

 

[Jeriatric]

Speaking of rockets, if we can send rockets to the moon and Mars, why can’t Canam preset the odometer? :chat: cueman

cueman, he's not the first Spyder rider to have had their speedo replaced. It has been reported here(over the years), at least several times. Beating up on Can Am/BRP for doing what the laws of your state allow, won't fix the problem. Only he can do that. He should take Chupaca's suggestion close his seat go for a ride, and hope that's the worst thing that ever happens to his Spyder.

FWIW I'm far from a BRP fan boy. But, facts are facts.

 

[Docster]

I got my ace back today, they replaced the multifuction gauge, brake reservoir kit and handlebar clamp screw. But it had over 7,000 miles on it when I dropped it off. It had 16 miles when I got it back. As far as I know it is illegal to change odometer mileage for any reason . I should be transferred with new gauge. I will do some more checking next week. Any thoughts?

There's always common sense reasons for exceptions to laws. Replacing a faulty gauge is one. It's illegal to knowingly change an odometer for fraudulent reasons. That's why you were given paperwork.

 

[Easy Rider]

As far as I know it is illegal to change odometer mileage for any reason . I should be transferred with new gauge. I will do some more checking next week. Any thoughts?

Your thought is wrong.
Some repairs, like replacement of the odometer mechanism, will effectively reset it to 0......and there is no easy mechanism provided to "update" it to the old number.

What IS illegal is for you to lie when marking the box on the title transfer where is says something like "The indicated mileage is the actual mileage."

 

[Easy Rider]

It is just unacceptable to me.

Too bad.
ALL vehicles work that way.
You can either make yourself sick about it........or just move on.

 

[Easy Rider]

If you sell it YOU are to disclose the actual mileage.

Actually that is not really true.
All you are obligated to report is what you KNOW, which is that the number shown on the ODO is not the actual total mileage.
And if you don't know that, you have no real "obligation" at all.

 

[Aufgeblassen47]

Legally speaking if the dealer or anyone else turns back an Odometer they are committing a crime ……. Mike - ( an x-Leo )…...hyea:

It is not like the old days where there were mechanical odometers and they could simply put a drill on it and run it backwards overnight!

 

[Highwayman2013]

I don't think it should be my responsibility to remember and or keep a piece of paper because can am didn't figure out a way to transfer mileage. I am honest but what if someone else is not. Plus it is really annoying to have to keep track of mileage for maintenance. It is just unacceptable to me.
The dealer did say they can keep track of hours on the machine, not much help to me.

It's not illegal. We had the cluster changed on our 2012 RTL and got a paper showing the original reading when the cluster was changed. Put the paper with the registration or title add 7,000 miles to your oil change number, and ride it.