If you're going to Americade read this

[Danimal]

Right on MagicMan !

I know is sounds selfish... but you're right.... mankind no longer has a natural preditor... and the herd is not being thinned. Sometimes some bleach in the shallow end of the gene pool is just what is needed.... ;D

Idocracy in action.

The dumbing down of America....

Average # of kids being born to college graduates or professionals..... 1.8 children.

Average # of kids being born to non-professionals with lower education... 3.2 children.

Do the math... we are becoming dumber as a society in general.


We are dealing with the smoking bans in Michigan now. I don't smoke. I don't like to be near smoke.. and if a place is smoke-filled I just won't go there.

The choice to be smoking or non-smoking should be up to the individual BUSINESS OWNER.

I have no problem with government requiring non-smoking areas.... but an outright BAN is just wrong.

End of rant....

Ryde on!

 

[Derwin]

Well that's a good question. In Colorado, when DUI checks are done, you have to do put up a notice allowing drivers to leave the highway before they get to the checkpoint. It was a Supreme Court ruling that said all drivers have to be allowed a way out, just like we have to post that photo radar is being run and we have to give drivers a way out before they speed right past the cameras. This was a federal ruling and I see no reason why it would not apply to any checkpoint, but I am not an attorney...

Wow. That's news to me. I can just go by my personal experience. I was never given a "heads-up" on a checkpoint being ahead. I would always just be driving my car, and then suddenly see a cop pointing at me to pull over because he seen I was not wearing a seat belt. Actually, I have seen these same seat belt check points all over the place, and there was absolutely no indication that they were ahead, and there was sure no way to avoid them. But maybe seat belt check points are totally different than cycle points. I have no idea.

Derwin

 

[Star Cruiser]

I just think if we allow the Gov. to tell us what is good for us and what is not about this, I fear someday they'll be telling us what to eat because it could hurt us too. Or how about lock people up who don't use condoms, or no more motor sports because we could get hurt doing them as well. Where will it stop? Where will that line of involvement in our personal lives by the Gov stop? In 1960 people would have thought you nuts if you said someday the Gov will make you wear a seat belt in your car, or wear a helmet on a bike. Yet here these, and a long list of other "save us from ourselves" laws are today.

Sounds like we have strayed a little fromt he topic, but I think you have hit the nail on the head. I know people from the late 60's early 70's that had to move to Canada (I went to College with them) because they chose not to fight in Viet Nam. They thought it ironic that they were forced to fight, for freedom to choose. It was a great topic in Philosophy class

Sometimes we have to be "saved from ourselves". In Canada our PUBLIC HEALTHCARE pays a lot (from MY taxes) to keep those without seatbelts and helmets in the hospital. I would probably agree that they have the freedom to choose, if they didn't use MY money to get "fixed"
Just my 2¢ worth

 

[rogerdoger]

Last night the news in Albany, NY stated that 123 motorcycles were stopped and 48 tickets were issued.

 

[Danimal]

"In Canada our PUBLIC HEALTHCARE pays a lot (from MY taxes) to keep those without seatbelts and helmets in the hospital. I would probably agree that they have the freedom to choose, if they didn't use MY money to get "fixed"



We pay for them in America too.... with high insurance costs and medical bills.


In Michigan, not wearing a seatbelt is now a primary offense - which means they can pull you over if they visually see that you are not wearing one.

Checkpoints where they make you actually STOP are illegal in Michigan. When they do seatbelt checks in MI what they do is pick a 4-way stop and then have a cop sit in his car and watch the cars as they stop. They put up signs saying they are doing all this.

That is the loophole they have.

Won't work for checking BAC levels... because they would actually have to stop your car and run the tests on you.

We are losing our freedoms bit by bit.

 

[Smylinacha]

Well that's a good question. In Colorado, when DUI checks are done, you have to do put up a notice allowing drivers to leave the highway before they get to the checkpoint. It was a Supreme Court ruling that said all drivers have to be allowed a way out, just like we have to post that photo radar is being run and we have to give drivers a way out before they speed right past the cameras. This was a federal ruling and I see no reason why it would not apply to any checkpoint, but I am not an attorney...

Wow - Colorado is a kewl state to live in! I gotta move there.

 

[Smylinacha]

Sounds like we have strayed a little fromt he topic, but I think you have hit the nail on the head. I know people from the late 60's early 70's that had to move to Canada (I went to College with them) because they chose not to fight in Viet Nam. They thought it ironic that they were forced to fight, for freedom to choose. It was a great topic in Philosophy class

Sometimes we have to be "saved from ourselves". In Canada our PUBLIC HEALTHCARE pays a lot (from MY taxes) to keep those without seatbelts and helmets in the hospital. I would probably agree that they have the freedom to choose, if they didn't use MY money to get "fixed"
Just my 2¢ worth

Yeah, we pay high insurance because of that. Don't get me wrong - I'm not wreckless but seatbelts literally CHOKE me. I always wear a helmet when I ride. but the thing is - I want CHOICE. I don't want to be told what to do and unfortunately, Connecticut is becoming more of a nanny state then I would like. I gotta stay here though because I work for a decent company that affords me to pay my bills.... for now.

I just think that Government is becoming too much Big Brother - and I'm so sicked and tired of the Big Brother and everyone trying to one up the other on political correctness. We're turning into Sheeple folks.

 

[Star Cruiser]

OK Back on Topic.....
I AM going to Americade and I will be doing a DEMO on the SE5.....

Kind of sucks that I can't ride the M5 to compare (the left leg is the prosthetic side) but WWhhoooooo WWhhoooo! I am going to be riding AGAIN in a couple of days!