HYDRAULIC HAND BREAK WORTH ADDING?

[Kariblay]

I plan on the addition because over the years of wear and tear on my ankles (military), they hurt like hell from time to time. I'm feeling a lot of discomfort from having to keep my foot on the peg at an angle so as to reach the brake when riding in traffic. Which is always a problem the closer you are to DC. So hand brakes will bring me much relief. ken :clap::thumbup:

Me too...right knee is sore at the end of rides...need the hydraulic hand brake! :agree: ray: :helpsmilie:

 

[Peoriafirefighter]

Hand Brake

under $400 installed

If I could get one for that price I would jump on it right away. That is cheap, and I could leave my feet on the highway pegs.:2thumbs:

 

[bone crusher]

For me, no. I adapted to the foot-brake-only without any problem. I prefer having to use only my foot to have all the braking power I need. If someone has a special need, then it should be available. If someone just wants one, then it should be available. Is it worth adding just to have one? That's up to the individual.

:agree: I have no need what-so-ever, but if someone has disabilities, it's a must-needed option.

 

[Roadkill]

hand brake

+I agree with Peoriafirefighter and think the price is right, but my need is different.

As a very aggressive rider, I want a quality hand brake to position my body comfortably and appropriately at all times.

Many times, it'd permit me to hang off better against heavy turning forces without distorting myself to ensure my foot's over the pedal, and many times it'd simply permit me to stretch the ankle more comfortably, both while conciously utilizing the hand brake as I do on my two-wheelers.

Since this would be hydraulically linked (presumably to the full braking system), then this is my desired solution.

I think BRP is making a mistake by not incorporating this as a stock item, both in terms of the safety aspect, and in their "this isn't marketed to motorcyclists" mindset.

They're wrong on both counts, and don't even realize it, IMHO.

Ride on.
Roadkill
http://www.roadkillonline.net/imagedb_images/35_8324.JPG

 

[Motza]

If I could get one for that price I would jump on it right away. That is cheap, and I could leave my feet on the highway pegs.:2thumbs:

My mistake that did not include the labor cost.

 

[Motza]

+I agree with Peoriafirefighter and think the price is right, but my need is different.

As a very aggressive rider, I want a quality hand brake to position my body comfortably and appropriately at all times.

Many times, it'd permit me to hang off better against heavy turning forces without distorting myself to ensure my foot's over the pedal, and many times it'd simply permit me to stretch the ankle more comfortably, both while conciously utilizing the hand brake as I do on my two-wheelers.

Since this would be hydraulically linked (presumably to the full braking system), then this is my desired solution.

I think BRP is making a mistake by not incorporating this as a stock item, both in terms of the safety aspect, and in their "this isn't marketed to motorcyclists" mindset.

They're wrong on both counts, and don't even realize it, IMHO.

Ride on.
Roadkill
http://www.roadkillonline.net/imagedb_images/35_8324.JPG

Maybe if enough of the Spyder owners contact BRP maybe they would consider offering it as an add on option :clap:... call this week operators are standing by!

 

[Dudley]

I would hope that BRP would come right out and tell us why they did not or cannot add a handbrake. I have a suspicion it has to do with the legality of the Spyder being classified a roadster instead of a motorcycle.

 

[Motza]

I would hope that BRP would come right out and tell us why they did not or cannot add a handbrake. I have a suspicion it has to do with the legality of the Spyder being classified a roadster instead of a motorcycle.

If so why do you need to get a motorcycle permit to ride one?:dontknow:

 

[NancysToy]

"Roadster" is a marketing thing devised by BRP. A "motorcycle" is defined by state law. BRP has a very specific idea of the Spyder demographic and the kind of riders they are trying to attract. They have been successful, but there are plenty of convention bike riders who ride Spyders, too. I don't know why BRP feels it is so important to focus so narrowly, but they have come right out and said "No hand brake." It is their choice. We either buy what they offer, or pass. If we buy, but still desire modifications, we take to the aftermarket. That's the way these things always work. No sense in griping abouit it!
-Scotty

 

[trikester]

I love my hand brake ever since putting it on my Spyder! I mostly use the hand brake when riding in the city now. To hold the Spyder, while sitting at a light, I usually use the foot brake.

In a quick stop situation I start with the hand brake while getting my foot on the foot brake, where I can get more force down.

I'm very glad I made the effort to add the hand brake. hyea:

While walking the bike on a sloping surface it's also great!

 

[Kariblay]

I love my hand brake ever since putting it on my Spyder! I mostly use the hand brake when riding in the city now. To hold the Spyder, while sitting at a light, I usually use the foot brake.

In a quick stop situation I start with the hand brake while getting my foot on the foot brake, where I can get more force down.

I'm very glad I made the effort to add the hand brake. hyea:

While walking the bike on a sloping surface it's also great!

Info please on your setup - what/how/whom? Danke!

 

[Motza]

If I still owned and rode a bike at times I would want a hand brake so that I did NOT get out of the habit of using it. Using both hand and foot MUST remain natural for someone that rides two wheels! Of course I am spoiled now with the anti-lock though could wish for a bit shorter stop. I just have to remember it won't stop any faster than my Forester.

Had an interesting phone conversation with Can-Am today about adding a hydraulic hand break. They said, if it is installed by an arthorized BRP dealer, that it would not void the warr. However the BRP dealer would first have to contact BRP and get an ok, on the parts that would be used.
I found that to be very interesting don't you?

 

[Motza]

:thumbup:

Info please on your setup - what/how/whom? Danke!

Just want you to know that photo is so distracting... don't remove it!

 

[NancysToy]

Had an interesting phone conversation with Can-Am today about adding a hydraulic hand break. They said, if it is installed by an arthorized BRP dealer, that it ok and would not void the warr. However the BRP dealer would first have to contact BRP and get an ok, on the parts that would be used.
I found that to be very interesting don't you?

It will not void the warranty under Federal law anyway, unless it can be proved to have caused the failure.
-Scotty

 

[trikester]

Info please on your setup - what/how/whom? Danke!

I posted photos and text on my installation which added to NEXUS thread about his installation, in the Shop Talk section. I don't think anything has been added to it in awhile so it will probably be back a few pages. Look for NEXUS first post on the subject and then scroll down. I used his method with some changes of my own.

There should be no change in warranty unless the hand brake addition caused something to malfunction or fail. In my wildest imagination I can't think of any way this mod could affect anything else on the bike. Especially since the stock foot brake still functions normally.

 

[bone crusher]

I posted photos and text on my installation which added to NEXUS thread about his installation, in the Shop Talk section. I don't think anything has been added to it in awhile so it will probably be back a few pages. Look for NEXUS first post on the subject and then scroll down. I used his method with some changes of my own.

There should be no change in warranty unless the hand brake addition caused something to malfunction or fail. In my wildest imagination I can't think of any way this mod could affect anything else on the bike. Especially since the stock foot brake still functions normally.

Maybe the concern is that the hand brake doesn't work vs. the hand brake affecting something else? Either way, you can end up in a world of trouble. For those who want their feet on pegs while riding or want to lay down on the bike, if a hand brake cable snaps or doesn't work properly, this could lead to problems.

There should be some after-market companies like NMN who can develop this safely...then, if installed at a dealership, you should be good to go.

I have no need as I like the foot brake...however, for those who are disabled or really want the option, there should be something safe on the market.

 

[Lamonster]

Maybe the concern is that the hand brake doesn't work vs. the hand brake affecting something else? Either way, you can end up in a world of trouble. For those who want their feet on pegs while riding or want to lay down on the bike, if a hand brake cable snaps or doesn't work properly, this could lead to problems.

There should be some after-market companies like NMN who can develop this safely...then, if installed at a dealership, you should be good to go.

I have no need as I like the foot brake...however, for those who are disabled or really want the option, there should be something safe on the market.

I've had a working hand brake for a little over a year now and there has been no ill effect on anything else. It did save me from running into the back of a van one time when I did what I've been trained to do in a panic situation and that is grab the front brake first. If I had to rethink about the hand brake not being there and to use the foot brake only I would have been in the back of that van for sure.

I too am concerned about a cable breaking as they do break but a hydraulic brake is much less likely to fail. If I had to count on that has my only means of braking that's the route I would go. I'm on the list to get one from ISCI whenever they get ready to bring it to market, not because mine doesn't work well but because it greatly reduces the risk of a failure. I've seen their custom built slave cylinder and these guys did a great job on it. I've always been one to buying things off the shelf and making it work but after seeing their setup in Daytona I'm going this route instead.

 

[aubierules]

I've had a working hand brake for a little over a year now and there has been no ill effect on anything else. It did save me from running into the back of a van one time when I did what I've been trained to do in a panic situation and that is grab the front brake first. If I had to rethink about the hand brake not being there and to use the foot brake only I would have been in the back of that van for sure.

I too am concerned about a cable breaking as they do break but a hydraulic brake is much less likely to fail. If I had to count on that has my only means of braking that's the route I would go. I'm on the list to get one from ISCI whenever they get ready to bring it to market, not because mine doesn't work well but because it greatly reduces the risk of a failure. I've seen their custom built slave cylinder and these guys did a great job on it. I've always been one to buying things off the shelf and making it work but after seeing their setup in Daytona I'm going this route instead.

my buddy carlos did the "lamonster" cable hand brake install and it works really good.....obviously not as strong as ur foot or a hydraulic, i think....but a great mod for a handi-man like myself

i too will consider getting the hydraulic kit installed....just depends on the price i guess....

 

[Motza]

I've had a working hand brake for a little over a year now and there has been no ill effect on anything else. It did save me from running into the back of a van one time when I did what I've been trained to do in a panic situation and that is grab the front brake first. If I had to rethink about the hand brake not being there and to use the foot brake only I would have been in the back of that van for sure.

I too am concerned about a cable breaking as they do break but a hydraulic brake is much less likely to fail. If I had to count on that has my only means of braking that's the route I would go. I'm on the list to get one from ISCI whenever they get ready to bring it to market, not because mine doesn't work well but because it greatly reduces the risk of a failure. I've seen their custom built slave cylinder and these guys did a great job on it. I've always been one to buying things off the shelf and making it work but after seeing their setup in Daytona I'm going this route instead.

Thanks for that info, I'll wait to here your review once you install yours.
Regards, Motza