HOPE THIS DOESN'T OFFEND ANYONE

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

Another animal most western countries do not consume is horse. But its very different in other parts of the world.

Sometimes we impose our value system on others to our own detriment. No, I don't advocate we take up eating horse meat, but why not make it available to those who do? The west has a significant problem with an excess number of wild horses, so much so that the herds have to be thinned out to preserve wild land vegetation. If we could just suppress our own refusal to consider horses as a food source, we could solve the overpopulation problem very efficiently by capturing and shipping excess wild horses to countries who would love to have them for food.

 

[BoilerAnimal]

I grew up on a small farm and it was not, and is still not, unheard of to have farm animals as pets. We had a black angus cow that I rode from the pasture to the barn for milking many a time and a pet banty rooster that thought he was far tougher than his size implied.. 4-H members raise cows, pigs, sheep, just about any kind of farm animal for their 4-H projects. Many members get very attached to these animals with many of them cared for far more lovingly than many pets.

Many people have little understanding of where our food comes from and give little thought to someone having an attachment to a farm animal that matches or even surpasses that of many household pets. True, an extremely large and growing segment of animals are raised on factory farms that afford little, if any, compassion to be shown for the animals, but that was not always the case.

Lifestyles vary widely across the world and what is regarded as the norm by some is looked down upon by others. So ultimately, if one man's junk is another man's treasure I guess that it could be said that one man's food is another man's pet.

 

[RinconRyder]

If anyone on this forum thinks the slaughter of farm animals for food is the same activity as SE Asia dog farms they are wildly mistaken. These people round up dogs, some raised for food and other stolen from households, place them in wire cages or fishing nets so tightly packed that a significant number of them die because they cannot breathe. Then people haul them out by their feet, terrified, and hit them multiple times over the head, frequently missing, until they are unconscious but not necessarily dead. They are then thrown, dead or alive, into a vat of hot water so their skin can be removed. They are then hung in a marketplace to be sold as food.

There is a monumental difference between humane slaughter and what goes on in SE Asia.

I personally support the immediate execution of anyone mistreating an animal, food or household pet here or anywhere in the world. The inhumane treatment of an animal cannot be justified no matter what.

Witness one of these events and you may come to my side of the argument.

 

[JerryB]

Hi IdahoMtnSpyder,

Re: If we could just suppress our own refusal to consider horses as a food source, we could solve the overpopulation problem very efficiently by capturing and shipping excess wild horses to countries who would love to have them for food.

Backin the 70's there was a beef shortage. Some guys that I knew bought horsemeat & tried it. They thought that it was OK.

Also, during that period, the US shipped horsemeat to France; the french consider it a normal meat to consume.

Jerry Baumchen

PS) I've eaten kangaroo.

 

[BoilerAnimal]

If anyone on this forum thinks the slaughter of farm animals for food is the same activity as SE Asia dog farms they are wildly mistaken. These people round up dogs, some raised for food and other stolen from households, place them in wire cages or fishing nets so tightly packed that a significant number of them die because they cannot breathe. Then people haul them out by their feet, terrified, and hit them multiple times over the head, frequently missing, until they are unconscious but not necessarily dead. They are then thrown, dead or alive, into a vat of hot water so their skin can be removed. They are then hung in a marketplace to be sold as food.

There is a monumental difference between humane slaughter and what goes on in SE Asia.

I personally support the immediate execution of anyone mistreating an animal, food or household pet here or anywhere in the world. The inhumane treatment of an animal cannot be justified no matter what.

Witness one of these events and you may come to my side of the argument.

Doesn't sound too different than what has occurred far too often at multiple packing plants here in the U.S..

The point that I was making is that while you regard farm animals as a commodity to be slaughtered for food, there are others (admittedly a far smaller group) who see these same animals as pets and lavish more attention on these "farm animals" than many main stream pets receive.

I also abhor mistreatment of any animal and have an extremely low opinion of modern factory farms. These farms inflict cruelty to animals on a grand scale!

 

[BoilerAnimal]

http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2013/...ghter-business-qualifies-for-usda-inspection/

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/find-horse-meat-us/story?id=18598602

Are we really as superior as we like to think?

 

[SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN]

big problem i have with china dog for dinner is these guys are snatched off the street, mangy or pets doesn't matter.
does anyone know if dogs taste like bacon?

 

[Bob Denman]

No; they don't... :banghead:
Which is probably a good thing for them!

 

[Joe T.]

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Many people have little understanding of where our food comes from - - - - - -

I know EXACTLY where my food comes from: Kroger (Dillons here in Wichita). And I plan to stay ignurt!!

Joe T.

 

[BoilerAnimal]

 

[RinconRyder]

I know EXACTLY where my food comes from: Kroger (Dillons here in Wichita). And I plan to stay ignurt!!

Joe T.

I once dated a girl from Yonkers, NY who did not know the relation between a cow in the field and that little piece of cellophane wrapped steak. I swear it was true.

 

[BoilerAnimal]

I once dated a girl from Yonkers, NY who did not know the relation between a cow in the field and that little piece of cellophane wrapped steak. I swear it was true.

As the population becomes more urban that will happen more and more frequently.

 

[Bob Denman]

 

[bronzeflex42]

WOW!!:shocked::yikes:

 

[SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN]

Wonder if trump will put a tariff on this?

 

[ThreeWheels]

We seem to set the limits on not eating dogs or horses because of the way we grew up.
Eating Lassie would be a horror.
Yet in our own culture, people who are vegans would say that eating Old Bossie, or Porky, or Bugs, or Bambi would be equally as horrible.

 

[TicketBait]

We seem to set the limits on not eating dogs or horses because of the way we grew up.
Eating Lassie would be a horror.
Yet in our own culture, people who are vegans would say that eating Old Bossie, or Porky, or Bugs, or Bambi would be equally as horrible.

Never heard the term "Old Bossie" what is that?

Also vegans and also vegetarians (which I have been last 7 years) do not consume fish either.

 

[Bob Denman]

I've got a question for you:
"When I've got a steak on the grille, and it's almost done...
I can hear the juices sizzling, and smell the wonderful scents; it really gives me a very satisfying sense of anticipation! :thumbup:

:shocked: Do you get the same feeling; when you're starting up your lawnmower??

:joke::joke::joke::joke::joke::joke::joke::joke::joke::joke::joke::joke::joke:

 

[Fatcycledaddy]

I do not condone the abuse of any animal!!!

I will say however that when i grew up on the farm, we raised rabbits, cows, chicken, and pigs.
There were many a rabbit, little calf, and piglets that were pets until it was time to consume them. Being a poor family, we knew that what we raised would eventually be eaten, and as I heard recently on a cooking show, "they had a really great life and then one bad day". And there were numerous wild game animals that were consumed, large and small, including things frowned upon like raccoon, and possum.

All the people who say they would never eat something or another would surprise themselves and others when it came to survival. Look at the Donner party, the plane crash survivors in the alps, and several other examples, I am sure that none of those people would have ever said they would stoop to the level of eating another human, yet they did for survival. How much easier would it be to eat a pet? How many stories are there out there where a owner of a pet has died and the pet ate them to survive?

I always joke, and yet there is a lot of truth in it, that we ate all of my pets when I was growing up. No we didn't eat the barn cats, dogs, and parakeets.

 

[BoilerAnimal]

“Old Bossie” is a cow.