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Helmet Buffeting
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DrJohn
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DrJohn
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I tried the X-creen several times in several positions on the Blue Ridge Windshield. I cannot say it is effective in reducing wind. It makes only a small difference. I think one of the problems is that a person sits far away from the windshield on the F3.
However, I can live with the wind...
John
However, I can live with the wind...
John
The buffeting comes from wind turbulence. In all my testing, the result is either go big or small, but anything in the middle usually just makes things worse.
Well fitting helmet will help but depending on the type and amount of turbulence this is likely minimal. For safety, helmet should fit correctly and the rest is a bonus.
Schuberth makes some of the quietest helmets. The modular is actually the quietest helmet made b/c they can make the neck roll tighter since the helmet opens. I ended up with an Arai because of my head shape. Wife has a Shoei.
A split shield, or the clip/bolt on visor, virtually adds height to the shield by accelerating the air passing between the pieces to push air higher over your head.
Seat position, rider height from the seat, and distance to the shield does play an important role. This is why just about everyone has a different opinion and experience. What works for 1 does not work for another, usually because something else is different.
Some end up with a shorter shield because they prefer the "clean air" at their helmet.
Often, the clip on visor works better when it is in a lower position so it accelerates the better.
Higher is not always better. For example, my Madstad 24" on my RS just did not work, no mater where I put it with 3" of adjustment in height or angle. Went to a 26" shield and it was night and day difference. I run it 1" above minimum and very close to the 60 degrees they recommended.
I use clip on visor for my Buell and it is just enough to move the air from my gut to chest/shoulders. I tried 2 taller shields and both created horrible turbulence. Might talk to Madstad about adapting or building something custom.
Super tall shields often do fix the issue because they get the turbulent air above your head.
On the F3T, I found the shield had no turbulence; however, the wind noise was deafening. Split shield does accelerate the air so more noise is common but it should be smooth.
For those that are testing equipment, wrap the shields in plastic wrap and packing tape to protect so you can return during the allowed period without any damage. There were a few cheaper options but I went to Madstad because of their 60 day return policy.
Hope that helps.
Well fitting helmet will help but depending on the type and amount of turbulence this is likely minimal. For safety, helmet should fit correctly and the rest is a bonus.
Schuberth makes some of the quietest helmets. The modular is actually the quietest helmet made b/c they can make the neck roll tighter since the helmet opens. I ended up with an Arai because of my head shape. Wife has a Shoei.
A split shield, or the clip/bolt on visor, virtually adds height to the shield by accelerating the air passing between the pieces to push air higher over your head.
Seat position, rider height from the seat, and distance to the shield does play an important role. This is why just about everyone has a different opinion and experience. What works for 1 does not work for another, usually because something else is different.
Some end up with a shorter shield because they prefer the "clean air" at their helmet.
Often, the clip on visor works better when it is in a lower position so it accelerates the better.
Higher is not always better. For example, my Madstad 24" on my RS just did not work, no mater where I put it with 3" of adjustment in height or angle. Went to a 26" shield and it was night and day difference. I run it 1" above minimum and very close to the 60 degrees they recommended.
I use clip on visor for my Buell and it is just enough to move the air from my gut to chest/shoulders. I tried 2 taller shields and both created horrible turbulence. Might talk to Madstad about adapting or building something custom.
Super tall shields often do fix the issue because they get the turbulent air above your head.
On the F3T, I found the shield had no turbulence; however, the wind noise was deafening. Split shield does accelerate the air so more noise is common but it should be smooth.
For those that are testing equipment, wrap the shields in plastic wrap and packing tape to protect so you can return during the allowed period without any damage. There were a few cheaper options but I went to Madstad because of their 60 day return policy.
Hope that helps.
DrJohn
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I agree with what you are saying. However, I should have titled this article body buffeting. I feel turbulence coming from the top and sides of the windshield. I think the primary problem is that I'm far away from the windshield and the Blue Ridge windshield angle is very low. Originally, the bike didn't have a windshield because it was on backorder. I noticed only a little difference with the windshield above 55 mph.
John
Nyparrothead
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I promise you that if you try the F4 shield you will have no issue with buffeting period....
mark
DrJohn
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After already spending $600, I hate to spend another $520 on a windshield. But, I'm considering it.
John
Michaelscs
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I don't think you can make that promise. It's different for everyone.
I had a F4 32" shield and I'm 6'4". At lower position I had terrible head buffeting and noise. At the higher position it was better from the front, but the buffeting from the back sucked. I also ended up looking right through the top of the windshield, which was like looking through my bifocals all the time - no fun!
I can relate to your financial pain in seeking right windshield for u on the F3. Not so bright me has spent $800+ - three windshields - also DIY brackets/modified windshield to try different locations for windshield mounting to no avail. Ideally I sought Form and Function.
My conclusions from all this money and a gazillion hours of research/DIY trials and errors - just my $.02 of course your results are hopefully better than mine : 1. Windshield needs to be mounted closer to rider than OEM mounting location provides 2. Windshield either needs to be short (letting full airflow/no-reduced buffeting) or it needs to be a giant sail that you look through.
I am not comfortable looking through a windshield + helmet shield + sunshades.
So I have reluctantly settled for a shorter windshield + DIY mounting for year round use - no significant wind nor buffeting to head and lots of airflow and some buffeting to body at highway speeds - I also think it looks good and fits the style of the F3.
Solution also fits my riding: 99% of my riding is local, highways mostly avoided, and 1 hour max. seat time between pitstops.
Cheers and good windshield hunting.
Ronbo
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HELMET BUFFETING
Schuberth helmet and Madstad windshield made a big difference for me.
Ron
Schuberth helmet and Madstad windshield made a big difference for me.
Ron
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