Have you had an ECU Flash? How long did it take? Any good?

[trikermutha]

Dynojet (the makers of the Power Commander) will soon release their PowerVision CX for the Can-Am Spyder. This will allow you to back up your ECU, flash it with new data for better performance, MPG, etc.

Unlike the various places that do flashes, Dynojet will actually show results from their system using a dyno test. I've yet to see anyone else do this.

The system will run around $400 and while it doesn't have to be plugged in while riding, it is 'linked' to your Spyder --- in other words you can't simply use it to reprogram a dozen spyders….
To me, this is a far better idea than sending in your ECU to be flashed. You'll be able to set it 'back to factory' within minutes. You will also be able to clear codes using their interface.

They currently make these for HD, Indian and many BRP off-road products.

I would expect this to be a very high quality product, which is what they are known for.

Hope to have one in my hands soon....

http://www.dynojet.com/PowerVision/

When is it being released?

 

[SNOOPY]

Dynojet (the makers of the Power Commander) will soon release their PowerVision CX for the Can-Am Spyder. This will allow you to back up your ECU, flash it with new data for better performance, MPG, etc.

Unlike the various places that do flashes, Dynojet will actually show results from their system using a dyno test. I've yet to see anyone else do this.

The system will run around $400 and while it doesn't have to be plugged in while riding, it is 'linked' to your Spyder --- in other words you can't simply use it to reprogram a dozen spyders….
To me, this is a far better idea than sending in your ECU to be flashed. You'll be able to set it 'back to factory' within minutes. You will also be able to clear codes using their interface.

They currently make these for HD, Indian and many BRP off-road products.

I would expect this to be a very high quality product, which is what they are known for.

Hope to have one in my hands soon....

http://www.dynojet.com/PowerVision/

As with the devices Dynojet makes for cars and trucks, the manufacturers can tell if you flashed an ECU and flashed it back.

Just a note for those worried about their warranty.

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[Benmannino]

Louisville what’s up?

​BUMP

I live in Louisville also, have you had it done? By who? Where do you get your service done?
thanks
Ben

 

[wingit3611]

Lou. Ky

[Just got mine a month ago. Have a VFC III on my Victory Vision & a variable timing disk, so I was wondering how the 2013 RT L would do. Looks like a flash requires the use of 91 octane. I want to stay with 87. Sure it could do a few degrees and still burn 87. Rick in PRP


QUOTE=Benmannino;1400028]I live in Louisville also, have you had it done? By who? Where do you get your service done?
thanks
Ben[/QUOTE]

 

[Dennis in Lodi]

I use 87

Here goes the octane controversy, I have the monster flash. I have TESTED all fuels available with my testing of the original flashes with monster fuel. I disagree with monster fuel and most forum members. MY 30 years of dyno results on performance cycles and my spyder have proven to me that the best performance fuel is FRESH 87 octane. Consistently on a base line of 100 hp there is proven dyno hp increase of 4 hp with 87 octane vs. higher octane fuels. On my race bikes at the track that is real power i can feel in critical areas of the race track.
I have used 87 octane for 12,000 miles on my current flashed F3L.
Dennis

[Just got mine a month ago. Have a VFC III on my Victory Vision & a variable timing disk, so I was wondering how the 2013 RT L would do. Looks like a flash requires the use of 91 octane. I want to stay with 87. Sure it could do a few degrees and still burn 87. Rick in PRP


QUOTE=Benmannino;1400028]I live in Louisville also, have you had it done? By who? Where do you get your service done?
thanks
Ben

[/QUOTE]

 

[jcthorne]

Here goes the octane controversy, I have the monster flash. I have TESTED all fuels available with my testing of the original flashes with monster fuel. I disagree with monster fuel and most forum members. MY 30 years of dyno results on performance cycles and my spyder have proven to me that the best performance fuel is FRESH 87 octane. Consistently on a base line of 100 hp there is proven dyno hp increase of 4 hp with 87 octane vs. higher octane fuels. On my race bikes at the track that is real power i can feel in critical areas of the race track.
I have used 87 octane for 12,000 miles on my current flashed F3L.
Dennis

[/QUOTE]


Sorry to disagree but I have had the unfortunate opportunity to fuel my F3 with 87 from time to time out of necessity and can immediately feel the sluggishness and loss of power as the engine pulls timing. When returning to 93 octane, its not as immediate but takes a few miles to retune again for the better spark curve. Its repeatable and quite noticeable.

 

[wingit3611]

Sounds like it has a knock sensor in the engine and the flash is adjusting the timing based on when it hear the knock. I guess you never hear these engines ping. I read some place the 2013 has 12 to 1 compression.. Now I know why no pining. Thanks



Sorry to disagree but I have had the unfortunate opportunity to fuel my F3 with 87 from time to time out of necessity and can immediately feel the sluggishness and loss of power as the engine pulls timing. When returning to 93 octane, its not as immediate but takes a few miles to retune again for the better spark curve. Its repeatable and quite noticeable.[/QUOTE]

 

[LeftCoast]

I’m just going to say this is so sad even before I ask it.

What is an ECU, where is it and are there instructions anywhere on how to remove it or send it in.

Flame away. :bowdown:

 

[Dennis in Lodi]

We could both be correct?

Let's pause and assume we are both correct. When doing my DYNO testing for a specific bike, I only use gas from one of two SPECIFIC BUSY GAS STATIONS. Early in my career it was always BP and usually 93 octane for testing. Then in the last years of bike testing a SUPER GAS STATION came to town and they claim to have TOP TIER FUEL?? I was Down in Mississippi near a refinery with a Liter sport bike. I filled up with 87 octane and OMG the bike was doing wheelies everywhere. Trying to understand what just happened, a local told me it's just the difference of TOP TIER FUEL. So that is what led me to try DYNO testing 87 octane TOP TIER FUEL.
So here is how we can both be correct in our experience. I have a drawer full of DYNO charts that clearly show a performance gain with 87 octane, but always based on one specific BUSY station with fresh top tier fuel. MY Spyder riding 87 octane fuel is 90% limited to these specific gas stations as they are everywhere for me. Also, this could be a big one. If I'm touring I seldom go above 5,000 rpm for shifting and may not notice power loss from a low quality or stale gas?? Usually I buy Higher octane when in doubt.
With this in mind, and believing we are both speaking from experience, I would detect the same results as you describe if I had your fueling option in my tank and you would experience the same if you had mine. MY bike dyno charts do not show any hp improvement with 87 octane until way above the rpm range of our Spyders.
So to conclude, I do not have a DYNO history for my Spyder. I am using my butt DYNO and speed trap testing to confirm that with FRESH TOP TIER FUEL it is a wash for octane testing.
Thanks for a gentleman's discussion, this is how our country should behave if we disagree.
Dennis


Sorry to disagree but I have had the unfortunate opportunity to fuel my F3 with 87 from time to time out of necessity and can immediately feel the sluggishness and loss of power as the engine pulls timing. When returning to 93 octane, its not as immediate but takes a few miles to retune again for the better spark curve. Its repeatable and quite noticeable.[/QUOTE]

 

[El Dorado]

Just discovered the DYNOJET is available for my RTS:
https://cart.dynojet.com/c-3197-2015.aspx

 

[trikermutha]

Just discovered the DYNO
JET is available for my RTS: https://cart.dynojet.com/c-3197-2015.aspx

wait for the programmer to come out

 

[fatenhappy]

Just a little Survey for those that have had the ECU Flashed on their Spyder. Could you provide how long it is that you have being riding with the upgrade and what your results have being, etc.

Had the remapping done by Monster back in March 2018 for my 2017-F3T …

The thing now pulls like a train with absolutely no dead spots what so ever … The difference is amazing … Best value for $$$ for improved torque and HP (as recorded by my seat of the pants tacho and eyes being forced backwards into their sockets) I've made in a long, long time ..

 

[Hypurone]

I’m just going to say this is so sad even before I ask it.

What is an ECU, where is it and are there instructions anywhere on how to remove it or send it in.

Flame away. :bowdown:

In a nutshell, the ECU or ECM (Engine Control Unit / Engine Control Module) is what controls the engine operating parameters such as ignition timing and Air Fuel Ratios per given load/throttle position/engine temp etc etc. It is located on the left side of the byke behind the upper plastic. There are videos and some written instructions out there for removal.... It is basically 3 bolts and 2 connectors (though the connectors can be a bit tricky) once you have the plastics off... I'd say ryde it up here and I'll walk you thru it but that sounds like a lot of work to just have to repeat it once you get back home! 8-(

 

[308gunner]

I had my F-3 ecu re-mapped stage one a month ago.. along with a RLS cat bypass in which I had Ricky add two additional baffles....its a whole different spyder....im considering uprading to stage II in the spring...I went to the dragstrip a 1/8 track and measured the performance before and after the remap... the timing differences were really noticiable..real gains...so its worth the money.

 

[Peteoz]

I had my F-3 ecu re-mapped stage one a month ago.. along with a RLS cat bypass in which I had Ricky add two additional baffles....its a whole different spyder....im considering uprading to stage II in the spring...I went to the dragstrip a 1/8 track and measured the performance before and after the remap... the timing differences were really noticiable..real gains...so its worth the money.

I wasn’t so interested in that side, gunner, but I can understand those who are:2thumbs:. The biggest plus for me was no more lag in 2nd/3rd gear, smooooooooth acceleration and a generally crisper throttle response. I’m a very happy camper with my stage 2.:thumbup:

Pete

 

[Micha.]

Did anyone try MaptunerX? For MaptunerX, 2 maps will be available for 2-cylinder vehicles with 2013 and 3-cylinder models. Stage 1 without modification on the vehicle, Stage 2 with sports air filter and exhaust. Who has the sports mode gets the tuning recorded only in this area. So then would be Eco = reduced power, normal = standard power, sport = increased power. My question is, if someone has the tuning play and how the results are, like also by PN. I suspect that it is in the tuning range of Monster injection moves.

 

[308gunner]

I wasn’t so interested in that side, gunner, but I can understand those who are:2thumbs:. The biggest plus for me was no more lag in 2nd/3rd gear, smooooooooth acceleration and a generally crisper throttle response. I’m a very happy camper with my stage 2.:thumbup:

Pete

Drag racing may not be your thing...but....I actually did a real life timing run pre tune and post tune..the clock don't lie so the tune is legit not hearsay..real data!!..this was needed to show people the tune is real...and worth paying for..the 1/8 the pre run was 8.829 sec..at 74 mph..post tune...1/8 track my time is 8.497 sec at 85 mph!!..and I wasn't trying...I know it will do 8.450 or less.. this here is what people need to see..this is stage I ...I can imagine stage II.

 

[Revalden]

But Fat'n, you coulda had yours done by Jase at ECU Xtreme just down the road on the Gold Coast..... woulda been back a helluva lot quicker, & a whole lot easier to get any upgrades or fine -tuning done!! (And arguably a whooole lot better too! ) :thumbup:

what's the web address for ECU xtreme?

 

[Peter Aawen]

what's the web address for ECU xtreme?

Email Jase at [email protected] - and if the cost surprises you a little, please ask him to explain why. IMHO, it's more'n worth every cent! :thumbup:

 

[308gunner]

Today, I sent in the ECU and airbox lid in to be upgraded to a re-map stage II. I already have the race data for stock and Stage I. now for the next step...