Has anyone found a way to remove the start delay using the ECO button?

[monkeyboymorton]

I cannot vouch for all states, but in Texas, we call the immobilizer device the ignition key and handle bar lock. If that is not sufficient, a nearby .380 usually is. In reality, the DESS does very little beyond what the bar and ignition lock already does and is easily bypassed.

LOL!! I like the .380!! Guns are not allowed as part of any anti theft strategy here. Well, not allowed at all.

I did wonder because I have noticed there's not much anti theft on US vehicles. We have a lot. As I have no garage I had to have a tracker fitted to get theft cover on my insurance. All UK vehicles have alarms/immobilisors as standard and the more exotic stuuf has to have higher spec units to be covered by insurers.

We had a real problem with theft for joy riding in the 90s and that led the push to standard fit immobilisors. Insurance for some performance cars here in the 90s could be more than the value of the car. It was a mad time. Not nearly as bad now.

So this DESS key thing is normal here. What isn't normal however, is all the problems. It's rare to have issues with keys with chips in them on any other vehicle.

 

[Bob Denman]

In my neck of the woods: folks have either learned to respect the property rights of others...

...Or they learn about marksmanship: the hard way! nojoke

 

[SilverFox1]

Why is everybody in such a hurry?

 

[Tango]

Just tried this myself. Started right up. :thumbup: Tom :spyder:

 

[PaladinLV]

After thinking about what you said, you may be ABSOLUTELY correct. pps:
I could not find the original post regarding changing the software.

But will definitely let peeps know.

I don't think that is correct. You will still have to press the mode button even after the DESS has be disabled. Since you have a 2014 model that means waiting for the message to appear.

Let us know what happens after you have the DESS disabled.

 

[Peteoz]

You're welcome, I was the same but did it absentmindedly one day. Now I don't even look at the display to start it.

Aaarrrrrgggghhh. Yep, I was the same too, Monkeyboy......until today...thanks. :thumbup:

Mind you, it didn't really bother me, but there was always that thought in the back of my mind "what if I am parked somewhere remote and a Yeti appears out of nowhere.....by the time I get the Spyder started it will have eaten me".

Between the Yeti and the DESS error, I was getting too frightened to take the Spyder out of the garage :yikes: ......

Pete

 

[Bswank]

Delay

My dealer told me if you are going to rob banks this is not the machine to buy.:sour:

 

[Gilda]

I tried this with my 2015 ST L SE5. Didn't work.

 

[irvin48]

My dealer told me if you are going to rob banks this is not the machine to buy.:sour:

you almost have to to buy one and maintain it. irv

 

[Bob Denman]

My dealer told me if you are going to rob banks this is not the machine to buy.:sour:

NOTE TO SELF: Buy a different bike for robbing banks. Perhaps something subtle and unnoticeable: like a Boss Hoss!

 

[sduskin]

tracker...

LOL!! I like the .380!! Guns are not allowed as part of any anti theft strategy here. Well, not allowed at all.

I did wonder because I have noticed there's not much anti theft on US vehicles. We have a lot. As I have no garage I had to have a tracker fitted to get theft cover on my insurance. All UK vehicles have alarms/immobilisors as standard and the more exotic stuuf has to have higher spec units to be covered by insurers.

We had a real problem with theft for joy riding in the 90s and that led the push to standard fit immobilisors. Insurance for some performance cars here in the 90s could be more than the value of the car. It was a mad time. Not nearly as bad now.

So this DESS key thing is normal here. What isn't normal however, is all the problems. It's rare to have issues with keys with chips in them on any other vehicle.

My insurance company offered me $7 off per year if I had a tracker. AND they only recognized 2 trackers. Both were over $400 installed.

So guess what? No tracker on my spyder.

 

[vondalyn]

2015 f3 no delay ether...hit the button start the spyder!

same here, no waiting on 2015 F3S or 2015 F3

 

[vondalyn]

Went outside to try my early 2015 F3's----Turned on Key, pressed red button to run, put foot on brake, pressed for 1 second the ECO?Mode button & no start---I had to hold the eco/mode button in for 3 seconds---hmmm:banghead:

someone else may have already corrected you, but you got the order wrong. you turn on the key, then press mode, then hit the red start button (with your foot on the brake).

 

[monkeyboymorton]

I tried this with my 2015 ST L SE5. Didn't work.

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Interesting, it does seem to be 1330 models only that have the different software which allows you to start it with no delay.

 

[cribby]

I carry out the same sequence only I don't put my foot on the brake, only if I've left the bike in gear when I stopped it?

Ant

 

[Peteoz]

someone else may have already corrected you, but you got the order wrong. you turn on the key, then press mode, then hit the red start button (with your foot on the brake).

There is NO red "start" button, Vondalyn, it's black. I believe Wildrice is referring to the red Kill switch which he is setting to "run", so his order is indeed correct.

Pete

 

[Wildrice]

3 pages of posts---55 entries

& someone thinks this topic has no interest---mainly because it doesn't involve them---hmmm--always consider the source...

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I have never seen so many people sniveling over something so inconsequential... nojoke



There's a real easy solution: sell the bike, and get something else to be miserable ov

 

[Bob Denman]

 

[loisk]

Inconsequential? whinging?

Hmmm

OK I'll bite...

Yes, the start delay is annoying and most of the time it's tolerable - just the way it is.

BUT sometimes it does cause a more-than-annoying problem - no quick get-aways are permitted it seems.

For example, when I'm in a gas station, the person waiting behind has had to wait while I remove helmet, fill up, go inside to pay, come back, put helmet & gloves back on (FYI the servo's won't let us fill up unless our helmet is off - "the law"), then off I go --- but wait --- not yet, let's just wait a bit longer while the car behind gets impatient & etc

For example 2, on a group ride where sometimes it's a sudden decision to ride on to the next destination - they've all taken off and I'm sitting there, unbeknownst to them just waiting for the spyder to tell me I've had time to read the safety card while it has a think about all its computer bits...

Yes, it's tolerable and no, it's not a deal-breaker, I still love my Spyder - but I so wish the start delay wasn't there! It's longer on the ST than it was on my RS or is on my husband's F3, and I think the ST is in the same ballpark as the RT range.

I believe (but could be wrong of course) that it was put on the system right back in the beginning to appease law makers, given the Y factor was such new technology. It seems that the police bikes don't need to wait ... I think it's about time the delay was removed by BRP... if at all possible.

 

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

For example, when I'm in a gas station, the person waiting behind has had to wait while I remove helmet, fill up, go inside to pay, come back, put helmet & gloves back on (FYI the servo's won't let us fill up unless our helmet is off - "the law"), then off I go --- but wait --- not yet, let's just wait a bit longer while the car behind gets impatient & etc

I use the kill switch to turn off the Spyder and leave the ignition on when filling up. No delay to get going again, plus I can reset the trip meter while it's filling! :yes: