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GPS: To use one or not to use one ????

Your right

Why wouldn't anyone think it's a good idea to have a GPS? For me, not having one in every vehicle I own is hard to imagine in this day and age - it's just second nature. It's sometimes feels odd to think that GPS has only been available to us since 1983 when President Reagan declassified the technology for public use.

Until then, GPS was a technology reserved for the military. It's kind of neat how former military technology has made life easier after finding it's way into the civilian world.
 
I never could understand that

The answer depends on where you are.

I don't use one, never have--but that is just me.

My state has many uncharted areas. You can take road X and end up going off the face of a cliff if you blindly follow a GPS.

I never could understand how someone could be led out into the middle of nowhere and up in a life threatening situation because their GPS told them to take some dirt road out in the wilderness or the desert. If I'm following my GPS to take me somewhere and it tells me make a left onto some goat trail, I'm going to immediately suspect something is amiss. I'm not going to continue to blindly follow it into oblivion. And yet you occasionally read of this very thing happening. SMH
 
$135 for GPS

I wouldn't mind having one, but for $1,000 I'd rather just use mapquest.

Pam

Waterproof and HIGHLY rated/reviewed by fellow spyderlover. Mine will be here on Monday. Don't have the link as I was not able to order from WA and had friend order from diff state. But a search should get you to the review discussion on GPS...
 
I think it's amazing

It also lets me know how fast I am really going.

I think it's amazing how, out of all the cars surrounding you on a busy street or highway the GPS can pick out your vehicle. Like you, I use my GPS a lot for finding locations right here in my home town. If I'm looking for a store, I plug in the address and let my GPS tells me how much further away it is. This lets me concentrate on my driving instead of looking left and right to make sure I don't pass my destination.
 
That's weird

Waterproof and HIGHLY rated/reviewed by fellow spyderlover. Mine will be here on Monday. Don't have the link as I was not able to order from WA and had friend order from diff state. But a search should get you to the review discussion on GPS...

Why couldn't you order one from Washington?
 
I've used various GPS's for several years now and to be honest, it seems like stand alone units are dying off similar to CD players.
Anymore, I just use my phone as there are more features and I always have it with me.

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I never could understand how someone could be led out into the middle of nowhere and up in a life threatening situation because their GPS told them to take some dirt road out in the wilderness or the desert. If I'm following my GPS to take me somewhere and it tells me make a left onto some goat trail, I'm going to immediately suspect something is amiss. I'm not going to continue to blindly follow it into oblivion. And yet you occasionally read of this very thing happening. SMH

Where I used to live in Pa we had 2 people in a year drive into the river because their GPS said there was a road there! Years ago it was a ferry, hence the name Whites Ferry road.
 
Sometimes, Sometimes not

If I am on a mission I mostly, but not always like to use my GPS. I don't always even like my GPS. If I am just riding around doing the Bronson thing, it is in the case in the trunk. I do always carry my paper maps and usually go through a couple every year. A lot of the time I just like to ride in the direction of where I may end at.
 
I wouldn't mind having one, but for $1,000 I'd rather just use mapquest.

Pam

I recently bought off Amazon a factory reburbished like new Garmin Zumo 660 for under $350 complete. A used one with warranty from Amazon was $260. It's a top of the line motorcycle gps with lifetime maps. It's the one that comes with a RT Limited.

It's easy to get a setup quite inexpensively, even if it's a car gps for $100 that you wrap in a zip lock bag when it rains.
 
Someone speculated


Why couldn't you order one from Washington?

That it was listed as having a feature that might "screw" with radar units!!...the sellers stated that they hoped to have that resolved later in 2016..Being a person of no patience :yikes: I found the person to order for me...:yes:
 

I never could understand how someone could be led out into the middle of nowhere and up in a life threatening situation because their GPS told them to take some dirt road out in the wilderness or the desert. If I'm following my GPS to take me somewhere and it tells me make a left onto some goat trail, I'm going to immediately suspect something is amiss. I'm not going to continue to blindly follow it into oblivion. And yet you occasionally read of this very thing happening. SMH

Seems to happen a couple of times a year over here with tourists.

Its not just into the wilderness - I worked in London in the UK it was when GPS systems where taking off. The office was on Knightrider Street near St Pauls. It had originally been a proper street but a gas explosion in 1939 had changed the layout so it was a deadend. However GPS units still had it as a through route and so every day there would be a succession of vehicles pulling into the narrow street and then having to do a 8 point turn to get out again. Suggesting the maps loaded into the GPS systems were pre 1939!
 
I like to use my GPS when I have a goal to reach.....other than that, it stays in the truck. I just move my Garmin Nuvi 1450 from the truck to the bike when I need it. I have a second power cord and mount on the bike, so it's pretty darn convenient. When I'm going on a long trip, I like to preplan it on TYRE travel, and then download it to the Garmin. It's nothing fancy, but with lifetime map updater, I like it. If it looks like rain, I pull my sandwich bag out and it stays nice and dry, and I can still use the touch screen, with gloves on. Sure beats stopping and pulling out a map, then trying to remember which roads you looked at an hour ago....:yes:
 
Handy

I never get lost ,I'm just finding new routes. :coffee: :clap:The gps helps track ones I've already seen. Is handy lil digital map that i do not have to fold, use a light, or marker:thumbup: Keeps up automatically. & as long as I keep updated & charged, it will stay handy. I particularly like when I do find and odd out of the way scenic location i want to share, it can give me an address or mark where I am so I can come back with friends:2thumbs: I have even have just let a friend use it to go see same location when they had time, & i didn't. Don't ever need to depend on one but they are handy. Personally having more than one helps too, so you can compare accuracy, i like the satellite hybrid view on phone:doorag: & smsmygps app I can just txt my friends where to meet via google maps:firstplace:
 
I've always used a combination of gps and maps along with a map. I've used a tank bag for years then picked up a Zumo 550. Not a lot of room for a tank bag on a Spyder though. And now my Zumo's memory is full and won't load updates. Looking like I may be getting lost on the way to Spyderfest.


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I've always used a combination of gps and maps along with a map. I've used a tank bag for years then picked up a Zumo 550. Not a lot of room for a tank bag on a Spyder though. And now my Zumo's memory is full and won't load updates. Looking like I may be getting lost on the way to Spyderfest.


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Nahhh, not lost, just "off the beaten path"
 
Weird

That it was listed as having a feature that might "screw" with radar units!!...the sellers stated that they hoped to have that resolved later in 2016..Being a person of no patience :yikes: I found the person to order for me...:yes:

So the sellers think Washington uses different RADARS than any other police department in the county......:)
 
I think it's amazing how, out of all the cars surrounding you on a busy street or highway the GPS can pick out your vehicle.
It is amazing to think about.

A brief history of GPS Accuracy (for those interested): I remember when GPS first became publicly available at a "reasonable price" (sometime in the early part of the 1990s) the accuracy was only guaranteed to within about 100 meters. (And that was only when the government was not using what was then called "Selective Availability", which was essentially a way to voluntarily degrade the accuracy of the system. The DOD's use of SA was gradually reduced during the 90's and was permanently abandoned at the turn of the century.) In actual practice, under ideal conditions, the early Magellan and Garmin receivers in that era could pinpoint you to within about 25-30 meters.

At first, there were not many satellites in operation. It was not until after 1995 when the full constellation of 27 first-generation GPS satellites was in orbit. That caused accuracy to greatly improve, but still nowhere near the degree of accuracy we see today. Over the years since then both transmitters and receivers have greatly improved, both in accuracy and in speed. We are currently in the third generation of the GPS system. Unaugmented accuracy is now guaranteed to within about 7 meters, with actual results in unobstructed locations more around 3 meters or better, most of the time. (Even your phone can tell you which area of your house you are sitting in, if you are near a window and picking up even a small array of satellites.)

After about 2006 many better GPS receivers also received WAAS signals (Wide Area Augmentation System). Developed by the FAA, mostly for aviation use, WAAS signals are generated from ground stations located in most widely populated areas of North America. With WAAS, the accuracy is about 5x better than without it. (Parts of Europe and Asia also have their own augmentation systems apart from WAAS).

However, today most commonly available GPS receivers (including Garmin and other units we use in our cars and on our Spyders) have become so sophisticated that they can obtain very near the accuracy of WAAS augumented GPS receivers from the satellite transmitters alone. THAT is why today's GPS receivers can pinpoint almost the EXACT location of your vehicle on the highway in real time. And the average consumer price of these units keeps coming down year after year, while features and accuracy continue to go up.

Aviation grade GPS receivers today use both WAAS and Differential GPS which can pinpoint accuracy to within just a few centimeters near all but the smallest airports. The military today uses a completely different signal (transmitted from the same satellites) which is probably much more accurate than civilian GPS.
 
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Interesting Question

We do have a couple of GPS units, although not the top of the line units, one is fairly new. We do travel with a GPS but on the Spyder, it usually stays in the trunk plugged into the power source for occasional reference. I love paper maps and still use them to plan trips so I guess I'm a bit old fashioned. My wife is very adept at reading a map while sitting behind me on the Spyder. In larger cities GPS are great for finding specific locations.

They do have limitations in less traveled areas and can get also people into serious trouble. There are roads in Alaska and the Yukon territory that have been in existence for years that just don't show up on even current updates. We get a kick out of watching the vehicle icon moving along on the GPS screen where no road shows up. We call it off roading.

Of a more serious nature, there have been 2 situations that I no of where loss of life has occurred because people using a GPS were using "shortest route" planning. One was a local couple from where I live that were headed to Las Vegas for a trade show in their van in the fall a few years ago. They made the mistake of using shortest route while going through I think it was Nevada. They got onto a road in the mountains and got stuck in mud and snow. He tried to figure out where to go for help and left his wife in the van. There was a huge search for them. The search was called off but some hunters found the van with the wife 3 weeks later. She survived living off snacks and snow water. His remains were found over a year later by hunters.

In another well documented case a young couple and baby in Washington, I believe, were headed south in the winter and had not filled up with gas and were trying to get to the I5 corridor and used "shortest route" to get through the mountains. Again winter and inexperienced. They got stuck on a remote road. He died going for help and she and the child barely survived before being found. In both cases, family didn't even know where to start looking for them. They both made mistakes in judgement compounded by improper use of a GPS. Had they had paper maps they might have realized they were headed in a bad direction.

Sorry for a long winded comment.

Gary
 

I never could understand how someone could be led out into the middle of nowhere and up in a life threatening situation because their GPS told them to take some dirt road out in the wilderness or the desert. If I'm following my GPS to take me somewhere and it tells me make a left onto some goat trail, I'm going to immediately suspect something is amiss. I'm not going to continue to blindly follow it into oblivion. And yet you occasionally read of this very thing happening. SMH

It's all about the short cut to save time and miles. :roflblack::roflblack:
 
Why I also have and use a SPOT tracker

We do have a couple of GPS units, although not the top of the line units, one is fairly new. We do travel with a GPS but on the Spyder, it usually stays in the trunk plugged into the power source for occasional reference. I love paper maps and still use them to plan trips so I guess I'm a bit old fashioned. My wife is very adept at reading a map while sitting behind me on the Spyder. In larger cities GPS are great for finding specific locations.

They do have limitations in less traveled areas and can get also people into serious trouble. There are roads in Alaska and the Yukon territory that have been in existence for years that just don't show up on even current updates. We get a kick out of watching the vehicle icon moving along on the GPS screen where no road shows up. We call it off roading.

Of a more serious nature, there have been 2 situations that I no of where loss of life has occurred because people using a GPS were using "shortest route" planning. One was a local couple from where I live that were headed to Las Vegas for a trade show in their van in the fall a few years ago. They made the mistake of using shortest route while going through I think it was Nevada. They got onto a road in the mountains and got stuck in mud and snow. He tried to figure out where to go for help and left his wife in the van. There was a huge search for them. The search was called off but some hunters found the van with the wife 3 weeks later. She survived living off snacks and snow water. His remains were found over a year later by hunters.

In another well documented case a young couple and baby in Washington, I believe, were headed south in the winter and had not filled up with gas and were trying to get to the I5 corridor and used "shortest route" to get through the mountains. Again winter and inexperienced. They got stuck on a remote road. He died going for help and she and the child barely survived before being found. In both cases, family didn't even know where to start looking for them. They both made mistakes in judgement compounded by improper use of a GPS. Had they had paper maps they might have realized they were headed in a bad direction.

Sorry for a long winded comment.

Gary

All to familiar with both of these tragic situations. My son in law enforcement was involved with looking for the couple from BC..he asked that I get and use a SPOT at all times when traveling..whether on my Spyder or in truck. I have used my SPOT for years. I prefer the roads less traveled and 99% find those roads either on detailed map or by asking local folks. So if I could insist on a NECESSARY device for travel it would be the SPOT or similar (deLorme makes one) device. And use it!!! :yes:
 
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