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GPS: To use one or not to use one ????


I never could understand how someone could be led out into the middle of nowhere and up in a life threatening situation because their GPS told them to take some dirt road out in the wilderness or the desert. If I'm following my GPS to take me somewhere and it tells me make a left onto some goat trail, I'm going to immediately suspect something is amiss. I'm not going to continue to blindly follow it into oblivion. And yet you occasionally read of this very thing happening. SMH
This very thing happened to the wife and I up in theWhite Mountains in New Hampshire! Got lost and turned on the Gps, Gps said " In .2 miles turn right- than turn right." So we turned right, to which my wife said" why are we going into a Campground?" So we turned right agin and stopped. Would have gone down then boat ramp and right into the lake! So we backed up and knocked on the door of the 5th wheel on the other side of the road. An older gentleman came to the door and said " you followed your Gps didn't you? Them things don't work up here" to which I replied "so this ain't the frist time I guess" lol. He gave us directions.
 
Hi Rob,
Regarding your, "A brief history of GPS Accuracy (for those interested): "
Thanks!
I found it very interesting; although it didn't answer my single important question about these things:

How come it always wants me to take a road that I'd rather not travel on?? :dontknow: :D
 
Hi Rob,
Regarding your, "A brief history of GPS Accuracy (for those interested): "
Thanks!
I found it very interesting; although it didn't answer my single important question about these things:

How come it always wants me to take a road that I'd rather not travel on?? :dontknow: :D
Thanks. I've always been interested in GPS technology - probably because I was an avid private pilot for many years.

As you know, there is more to today's GPS units than their ability to simply pinpoint their exact location on the face of the earth - a function most receivers do with amazing accuracy. However, their mapping ability is a function of the cartography data that is fed into it by humans (the maps and how accurately they were constructed and how often they are kept updated, etc.). You know the old saying about computers... GIGO. Likewise, the routing ability is a function of the routing algorithms that are built into the logic of the unit. Unfortunately some GPS manufacturers are much better at this than others. The reason I like Garmin is that while they have produced some "questionable" models over the years, IMO they seem to be consistently better at both cartography and routing algorithms than many other manufacturers. (Although some folks may disagree with me.)

Still, as you know, you cannot yet expect computers to "think" like humans, any more than you can expect one human to "think" like another human. ;)
 
I'm a Geocacher and I have two GPS units when traveling. Garmin Zumo 550 for getting to a specific address and a handheld Garmin GPSMAP 76CSx with maps so I can see where I am in relation to where I am in an area. Both are discontinued units. I had used a Magellan unit but it's not weather restaint like the Garmin. It has more accurate maps and is also a handheld for Geocaching. The Garmin 76CSx I also use in my truck.
 
Love all the discussions this topic brings up. To use a GPS or not to? Lots of arguments for both. Been riding my whole life and feel like having a GPS gives me more freedom. I am not one that enjoys wandering around lost.. too much stress, plus.....maps??? Still can't read one!! :sour:

So these are my REALLY good reason to have a GPS and some points on how to pick the right unit for you.

https://www.leadermotorcycle.com/blogs/news/96857030-gps-seven-reasons-to-use-it-on-your-motorcycle

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I haven't read all the responses to this thread, so I am probably repeating what others have said.

I'm the wrong guy to ask this question, I have a GPS for my car, another for my Spyder, and a third for my boat.
To me, this topic makes as much sense as asking the question "Should I live in a house with heat and running water, or should I live in a cave with no heat, no windows and no internet and have to take care of business outside in a hole that I first have to dig?"

I got a GPS for my bike for a simple reason. I love wandering around on a bike, getting lost, going to strange new locations, but after wandering for a few hours, when I'm tired, hungry, cold and I need to go to the bathroom, I want to go HOME and I want to get there by the quickest route.

I plan routes on my GPS, or if I've wandered around, I can upload my route and find out where I've been.

Just my opinion, I could be wrong.
 
Yes & No!

I like to study a map and plan my general route. There may be roads I want to ride and the GPS would take me by a different route. But the GPS helps me navigate through towns and gets me to the road I want to take next. So I enter way-points to help direct the GPS to the route I want.

And, don't forget, if you decide to take a different road, the GPS will recalculate and accommodate your plan.
 
Washington

Washington and NY have anti radar dector laws. Their police vehicles have radar dectecting devices in their vehicles. Some versions of this GPS have built in radar dectors which can't be sold in WA or NY. I think the ticket is pretty hefty and a good revenue source for WA.
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2015...GPS-Navigation-Free-Maps-for/32429371041.html
The IGO Primo software in this GPS is the top rated software in the world.

So the sellers think Washington uses different RADARS than any other police department in the county......:)
 
Lots of comments, both pro and con. Here is mine. A GPS is a tool, nothing more, nothing less. If someone is so stupid as to drive into a river because the GPS thought there was a road, there, they are the same sort of idiot who will get in an accident for some other reason. No matter what the GPS says, the operator of the vehicle should be using two other tools, at all times - they are called eyes and a brain. When they misuse their tools, bad things happen.

I frequently take rydes down roads I've never traveled, before, just to see where they go - trust me, in West Virginia, you can easily get lost, especially when you have no destination in mind as you ryde, and keep taking turns, "just because" - at the end of a day like that, all I have to do is tell my GPS to take me home and it tells me how to get there.

My Zumo 660 lets me avoid highways, unpaved roads, seasonal closure roads - just a matter of pushing a button in settings. Sometimes I'm in a hurry and using highways is my choice (last September, I had to get home in a hurry and I was 600 miles away - the trip that took two leisurely days on back roads on the way outbound, had me home before dark using interstates.

When I was ryding back from Arizona, across New Mexico, Texas, and Oklahoma where gas stops tend to be farther apart, the neat little feature that told me how far, and in what direction the nearest gas station was, helped a lot - sometimes I'd top off the tank because my GPS said that the next gas station was 130 miles away, and I was at 3/4 of a tank - and I didn't want to take the chance to run out - and other times, I was reassured that a station was 50 miles down the road, and I could keep rolling.

I've used Google Maps and Waze on my phone, but my phone isn't waterproof, and my GPS is. Also, I'd rather be using the motorcycle power to run the GPS than be running down my phone battery using an app that requires GPS - yup - when you use your phone app, like Waze, you are using GPS. That sucks up the battery.

There is a subset of people who claim to not like the technology, so they swear by maps - I assume, that their grandfathers stuck to horses when motorcycles were first invented! :joke:

If you have a GPS, you don't HAVE to use it all the time - as I said, it is just a tool - but there are times, when nothing works better than a tool designed for a specific purpose.

Whatever you use to find your way around, it isn't right or wrong - it is what you want to use, and that is your right - it doesn't make other people wrong.

Enjoy the ryde.
 
Love GPS

I try to always have the GPS with me when I ride.
The GPS gives me the freedom to take any interesting looking roads when I am out and about, not having to worry about how I will get home from there, or where the next gas station is.
It frees me up to watch the ever changing beautiful country around me without worrying that I am going to miss my next road sign and miss my next turn.
I don't have to worry that the road I am on has no gas stations close by when I take a rout I do not know, one touch on the GPS will tell me where ant stations are with my route, or closest out of route leaving me free to wonder.
The other thing is that when I find a road that I would like to ride again, ot tell someone else about, when we are just wondering around, I can mark it on the GPS and get back to it from anywhere anytime.

Although I do not own a Harley, I do use their rout planner and think it is one of the best I have used. http://rideplanner.harley-davidson.com/rideplanner/ridePlanner.jsp
I have the last six years of our annual trips saved in this app and can down load then to the GPS in about 30 sec. This assures me that when I go cross country, I will ride on the roads I want to ride on, not the ones the GPS automatically routes me on. It also allows me to route out my complete trip in the cold of February when the snow is deep and I can only dream of riding.

This years trip to Utah and our base camp at Zion National park is already planned out to and from destination on the rout planner. Different routes each direction avoiding freeways both ways. This then will leave us the freedom of day trips to any locations in the area that the locals recommend to us.

I have the factory Garmin 590 with the Sena 20s headset and love how it all works together.

And now after talking about the trip, I can't wait for June to get here!!!:yes::yes::yes::yes:
 
Good tips and reasons. I have a 590 on the bike but sometimes I also use smartphone with Waze. Waze is great and was just recently updated. It's a 'social GPS' so you can enter or get indications of police, disabled vehicles, debris, traffic, etc. You can also send your ETA/route to others so you can track who is where, etc. which can be nice to meet up or know what time you all are arriving at a destination. Can keep phone in pocket or anywhere safe on the bike and just listen via bluetooth to helmet. It's all free, just need a smartphone. And fyi, it's pronounced "ways" :) Sometimes it's nice to have backups to each other too.

So much technology out there, I will never keep up! We have kiddos at home and I think this is a great idea! Thanks for sharing!
 
First, let me start off by saying I feel sorry for people who never get lost because there is a whole lot of this county they never get to see. Luckily, I'm a member of the Wandering Minstrels as my dear old mom used to call us. So I've seen more of the country than I intended. Now, as for using a GPS. I'm all in favor of it. When I brought my first GPS, the hardest thing I had to over come was getting used to blindly following the instructions of an electronic gizmo. I used to test it by plugging in a destination I already knew how to get to, and than following the directions of the GPS. Sometimes it would take me on a route I would not have followed, however it did get me where I wanted to go. So if I were a stranger in town, did the GPS pass? Of course.

But with my cell phone, I find myself using my GPS unit less and less. I used the WAZE app from the goggle app store and it has not let me down yet. At least it gets me where I want to go, and it's one less device I have to carry around. The down side to using my cell phone is the app draws more power then my adapter can replace so it's not really ideal for really long trips. So in that respect the GPS wins hands down since it's not using power for a whole slew of other things like my phone is doing. Of course if I know I'm going to be on the interstate for the next 100 miles, I'll turn my WAZE app off. Even I can't get lost traveling in a straight line.

You are the second person that has mentioned Waze. I am going to have to check it out!
 
got to have it

I like having the GPS. I'll hit some country roads and just ride and ride and if it's unfamiliar territory, i hit the home button and it brings my home. I use mine a lot. :ohyea:
 
i consider it a must, but would never spend a few hundred on one when its free on your phone. i transmit it into the blue tooth on my helmet, for RT riders you could just plug your phone into the rear to get it through the stereo system. I use it not just for directions but if you goto google maps and type in whatever you are looking for, starbucks, i hop, cyclegear, whatever it will put up the closest one and give you the directions.
 
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Same here

I ordered the same one and mine arrived yesterday! So far it looks awesome. First test is the Red Rocks Utah run in September. Will be using it in the meantime to get used to it!!!!!



I say that as I have a GPS about to arrive next week. Until now I have traveled 110k on Spyder without one...you ask Why Now? I say the price was right and for a moment I am willing to consider using!!! But that darned thing get me LOST and I'm back to my maps and note cards!!! GPS for me has always been talking to folks and asking ?'s. Get Person Service!! :yes::yes:
 
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