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Front brake pads need replacing

Pampurrs

Pragmatic Member
My front brake pads are looking kinda thin, so I'm thinking I need to replace them soon. I'd like to do it myself. Is this a difficult project? Any DIY videos out there?:dontknow:
I'm a bit disappointed about having to replace the brake pads after only 9 months though. :gaah:

Pam
 
FRONT BRAKE PADS

My front brake pads are looking kinda thin, so I'm thinking I need to replace them soon. I'd like to do it myself. Is this a difficult project? Any DIY videos out there?:dontknow:
I'm a bit disappointed about having to replace the brake pads after only 9 months though. :gaah:

Pam
....:dontknow:.............Mike :bbq:
 
Nine months but how many miles? If I am correct in my assumptions I think you have put quite a few miles on in your 9 months of ownership.
 
Nine months but how many miles? If I am correct in my assumptions I think you have put quite a few miles on in your 9 months of ownership.

Just a wee bit over 17,000, but still shouldn't brake pads hold out longer than that? :dontknow:

Pam
 
I don't know Pam. I had a car that went over 100k on the original factory pads, and was replacing the pads on my Yamaha RSTD at 20K both ends. I need to look at mine. I keep thinking from what others say that they should be close to wearing out (16,200 mi) but they still look good. If they get low enough I will replace minr the 1st of June just before our big rally.

So I found this: It makes it sound like no big deal.


http://meiguohosting.com/How-to-Replace-2014-Can-Am-Spyder-RT-Brake-Pads/



[h=1]How to Replace 2014 Can-Am Spyder RT Brake Pads[/h]February 9, 2015March 14, 2016admin Leave a comment

There are lots of advantages of regularly inspecting 2014 Can-Am Spyder RT brake pads. However one of the most important advantages is that this will allow your pads last for a long duration. Also, your bike will have a better performance when stopping or braking.
For the replacement of brake pads, you first need to have the followings prepared:
Calipers
Needle-nose pliers
New brake pads
Torque wrench
Lever block
Pump
Working gloves and protective overalls Then we can start the replacement work:
1.Secure the Bike
Find a clean work area with enough space to conduct replacement work. Make sure to put the bike at a safe position and protect it with protective clothing. A center stand may be a nice try. Make sure it is firm so as to avoid accidents or injury while carrying out the replacement and the front wheel should be leave to be able to rotate freely as this will be used while testing the brake pads.
2.Inspect Components of 2014 Can-Am Spyder RT
Remove the fork legs to make sure the inspection work is effective. Apply proper pressure to carefully remove bolts and loosen them with your hands and place them on an appropriate place. Locate fixed calipers to move the retaining pins and move clockwisely until seeing clips. Gently pull out the retaining clips using nose–clip pliers.
3.Locate the Pads
Retrieve calipers and remove the pads and then do tear or damages check. If necessary, replace them with new pieces.
Clean the compartment to get rid of excess grease, oil and debris. These foreign materials might have accumulated. You may use Aerosol brake cleaner for cleaning. Gently put the brake pads in place and fix it in position.
4.Reinstall Other Pieces
Place retaining pins and clips back into position and fasten them into place. If the place is dirty, clean it. Place back the caliper in the fork leg. Use a torque wrench and apply some force. Release the lever block.
Use a pump to correct the pressure of the new brakes, makes sure they are firm.
Replacing brake pads for 2014 Can-Am Spyder RT is a simple job. You can just do it yourself at home. Make sure safety conditions are enforced at all times when carrying out 2014 Can-Am Spyder RT repairs.
 
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I did notice in another post by Baja Ron in another thread that the service manual recommends a minimum thickness of only one(1) mm. If that is true then I think there are a lot of people changing their pads too soon. I also read where the factory pads are not very thick to begin with, like around 4 mm.
 
Automotive Brake Discs are 8-12" in dia, generally 3/4" or so thick & vented to help rapidly disperse heat (one of the major wear factors) with the pads about 5-6" long & up to 3" wide, & they last maybe 100,000 mi if you are gentle & brake lightly most of the time..... many never achieve that sort of mileage!! :shocked:

Spyder brake discs are not quite the same overall dia albeit they aren't too much smaller, but they are significantly thinner & the swept area of the disc is only about 1/2 as wide at a max of around 1-1/2" wide, with pads that are about 3" long & 1-1/2" at their widest, so about 1/4 the same surface area; and while a Spyder is significantly lighter than most auoto's, we tend to ride them just a little 'harder' (even if you don't think you do, watch the traffic around you.... You generally accelerate a tad faster, brake a bit later, & stop a bit quicker - it's the nature of the beast!) And yet those brake discs & pads, with a swept area of something in the order of one quarter to one third that of the auto discs & pads plus the skinnier metal of the discs that means they get hotter & take longer to cool off & the lack of a fourth wheel to add to the total braking effort still manage to work at least twice as well (if not significantly more) as that of most auto brakes - so of course the pads wear quicker!!

Your Spyder brakes are bloody good brakes, they work well, they don't fade too much as they build up heat, they stop your Spyder significantly quicker'n most auto brakes (with bigger discs & a much bigger pad swept area) plus that extra wheel on the ground can manage, and they do it with less rubber on the road (hmm, that might be another reason our Spyder tires wear quicker) and less braking surfaces too!! So yeah, the pads will tend to wear out quicker, the discs will actually do the same, altho most Spyder Ryders will never work their brakes hard enough or long enough to hafta worry about that, & the tires that provide such an important (the ONLY) contact with the road will too - but along the way you get miles more smiles & a whole lot more enjoyment & dare I suggest, excitement too?! :thumbup:

All that said, swapping the pads isn't a really hard task - here's a rough run-down from memory, so apologies if I've forgotten anything, but I'm sure some one'll pick any errors up quickly enough! ;) Beginning... once you've turned the ign off & got the front of the Spyder raised & the wheels are off, it's really just a few steps on a brake system that was designed for quick & easy pad changes!! Clean around & then Loosen the brake fluid reservoir caps (under the seat) & put a rag around/over them to catch any drips -that fluid is corrosive & you don't want it touching anything!! Later on, you do need to be careful not to overflow the brake fluid reservoirs when you push the pistons back to give you enough room to fit the new fatter pads into the gap, but it's not a biggie if you prepare now & are aware of it (some even use a small syringe to suck out a teaspoon or so of fluid first, then discard that removed fluid, & once the new pads are fitted, top up with fresh fluid!)

Back to the pointy end!! You can take the caliper off the disc if you want, there are a couple of bolts holding it in place, but it isn't essential, the brakes are designed to have quick pad changes done during racing without taking the caliper off the disc. Looking down on the caliper, there's a pin with a safety clip on the end clearly visible across the top of the caliper & the top of the pads; it holds the pads & the 'locator/tensioner' plate in the correct place so they sit in the right spot on the disc; take the safety clip out & then unscrew & remove the pin so you can then remove the locator/tensioner, but do take note of what way that tensioner thingy is fitted - get it the wrong way around when re-fitting & you are in trouble!!

And once that's done, it's a simple matter of grabbing each of the pads & pulling them both out, one at a time - use pointy pliers or similar to make it easy (can anyone remember if these pads/brakes have anti-squeal shims to worry about?? They are just thin metal plates that fit on the back side of the pad to stop noise - so if they are there, just take them off the old pads & fit them on the new pads) Then push the piston back into the caliper to give yourself room for the new pads (opening the pointy pliers in the gap between piston & disc is often enough, but you can get special tools to do this if you want); once the gap is big enough for 2 new pads & the disc, slip the new pads into place; fit the locator/tensioner across the top the right way around; screw the locking pin back in; re-fit the safety clip; then apply the brakes a few times to re-seat the piston& calipers on the pads & disc properly; top up the brake fluid if necessary; re-fit the wheels; drop the Spyder back on the ground & test ride!!

First time you do this it might take you an hour or even more, but the second time, once you have a basic idea of what you are doing, it generally takes much less!! Using the very same disc/pad design that your Spyder runs, race mechanics do pad changes, including removing/replacing the wheel, in about 30 seconds max!! That's from stopping the vehicle to getting it moving again!! So there's always gonna be someone out there who does it better & quicker than you, but hey, the satisfaction of doing something like this yourself is priceless!!

sorry for the saga, but hey, you asked!! ;)
 
I believe they are actually 6mm when new. I changed mine prematurely last year, but live and learn. Replacing them! That is easier than taking most of the plastic body panels off. Do you know any one that has ever replaced there front brakes on a car? If so they can help you the first time, it is easier than a car but nearly the same. I only needed about 15 minutes per side when I did mine.

Be warned! If you have added brake fluid in the past when you push the brake caliper pistons in you may overflow the reservoir. I sucked some out before hand then added fresh DOT 4 to top off afterwards.
 
It varies...

The SE's (semi automatic) will run through the pad quicker than the manuals will. I have an RS 2012 with 33,000 and still within the spec limits. I have RT ryders that have blown through them in 8,000 +/-. Mine always look thin so measure them to be sure. I have a full set at the ready from BajaRon and the rear tire is getting gone so may change them then if at the limit...:thumbup:
 
You can't set a mileage expectation for brake components in my experience. I remember a customer at our shop who delivered newspapers and wore out brakes quickly. I had other customers that drove mostly freeway miles and had phenomenal longevity on their brakes. I'm in Mesa, AZ and would be willing to look at your brakes if you wish.
 
Pam, have you replaced the rear pads yet? They generally wear out much faster than the fronts on Spyders. In almost 70,000 miles I've only changed the fronts once and I'm on the third on the rear.

Front replacement is easy.
 
You can't set a mileage expectation for brake components in my experience. I remember a customer at our shop who delivered newspapers and wore out brakes quickly. I had other customers that drove mostly freeway miles and had phenomenal longevity on their brakes. I'm in Mesa, AZ and would be willing to look at your brakes if you wish.

Hi I am in Gilbert would love to have you check my brakes Ken 480 717 8119
 
The change is not that difficult. But it is true that most change their brake pads before needed. 1mm is about 3/4 the width of a dime. Not much material. But the less material you have left, the longer it lasts. In other words. a new pad will wear more quickly than a nearly worn out pad. So that last little bit of pad will last a fair amount of time. Of course you don't want to get to a metal on metal situation.
 
PAD WEAR - GURU

The change is not that difficult. But it is true that most change their brake pads before needed. 1mm is about 3/4 the width of a dime. Not much material. But the less material you have left, the longer it lasts. In other words. a new pad will wear more quickly than a nearly worn out pad. So that last little bit of pad will last a fair amount of time. Of course you don't want to get to a metal on metal situation.
" BINGO "...:agree:...Mike :bbq:
 
Not too sure about the instructions in post #6, as I have yet to see an RT-S with fork legs and a center stand. Removing the wheels makes life a lot easier and the pistons need to be pushed back into their bores once the old pads are removed. Be very careful to check brake fluid level when you do this as the fluid may overflow the container. Also, apply brake anti-squeal to the back of the pads, otherwise the noise can be very irritating.
 
Is there a better pad out there? Better than the BRP pad. My brakes on my 2011 squealed like a pig. Have they improved them on the 2015 RTs?
 
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