First oil change

[ted11]

the dealer i bought mine from said to change oil at 500 miles

 

[shakin_jake]

the dealer i bought mine from said to change oil at 500 miles

~~~follow the owners manual written by the engineers that spec’d the motor. On the 900 cc Ryker the first oil change is 6000 miles (not 600) or after every 12 months, whichever comes first. Change the oil at 500 miles?!? That’s insane. I wouldn’t let my local dealer change the oil on my machine @ 500 miles even if he said he’d do it @ no charge. That’s straight up foolish

Do yourself a favor and spend the time it takes to read the owners manual that is supplied with your Ryker

You bought the machine, do what you want. But!, you came to this board for advice and most here that have been around BRP products will tell you, these are robust machines. They aren’t meant to be babied

 

[ted11]

i was going to change the oil myself

 

[MudBug]

There are lots of well thought-out opinions in this thread. I am not trolling or trying to bring back an old thread for kicks (may as well though, given the low activity on this forum sometimes), but there was very little mention of the time vector to an oil change. I had a couple health problems in the year since I bought my 2021, so there were 2 6-week periods where it just sat. I have some really clean-looking oil, but it's now over a year old. I have always rolled my eyes at having to change clean oil well before the mileage interval because the machine hasn't been ridden very much. I'll admit I haven't always done it (no catastrophic engine failures). I understand the concept of moisture being trapped in the oil and not boiled off frequently enough leading to corrosion, but just how dangerous is "old" oil? I understand you don't want to leave the oil in your parade '68 Cadillac for 15 years, and chemicals obviously degrade over time, but I sense a little overkill sometimes regarding oil age. Thanks.

 

[DickB]

https://can-am.brp.com/on-road/us/e...mation/3-wheel-motocycle-break-in-period.html

"Small high-performance engines such as the ones found in the Can-Am Ryker models do require a “break in” period where the vehicle’s parts (specifically the engine internals) are allowed to become acclimated to the demands of use. This is a period of 200 miles or 300 KM. "

"It is typically recommended to perform an oil and filter change after the break in period to remove the resulting contaminants and small metal particles that result from the interaction of the new components working together."

 

[Beginner]

For all the people amazed at what they find on the magnetic plug on their bike, consider this: It is working as designed.

All my tractors (korean) have a huge magnetic plug for the hydraulic fluid going through, that thing is coated with metal on the initial fluid change. The initial fluid change on a tractor is very expensive, normally 150 plus depending on the size of the machine, oil types, and filters. Tractors have an exact time schedule for initial oil changes and then the regular service intervals. Normally it is after 50 hours, then every 200 or so.

I wondered why can am didn't list it, but I guess it has too many variables for can am to calculate. Tractors are supposed to operated at a specific rpm or higher, whereas bikes can be operated by a granny or a speed demon driven at 30-110 mph for 500 - 6000 miles a year

 

[MudBug]

https://can-am.brp.com/on-road/us/e...mation/3-wheel-motocycle-break-in-period.html

"Small high-performance engines such as the ones found in the Can-Am Ryker models do require a “break in” period where the vehicle’s parts (specifically the engine internals) are allowed to become acclimated to the demands of use. This is a period of 200 miles or 300 KM. "

"It is typically recommended to perform an oil and filter change after the break in period to remove the resulting contaminants and small metal particles that result from the interaction of the new components working together."

The statement on this page is confusing:

"This is common practice in the recreational vehicle and motorcycle industry where the smaller engines produce high power levels, as well as being designed and manufactured to exacting standards. It is typically recommended to perform an oil and filter change after the break in period to remove the resulting contaminants and small metal particles that result from the interaction of the new components working together. The first servicing on your Ryker should be done after 6,000 miles or 10,000 KM."

Should it be done after 200 miles or 6000 miles? BRP could have chosen better wording. 6000 miles is certainly *after* the 200 mile break-in period, but not *right* after :dontknow:

 

[MudBug]

For all the people amazed at what they find on the magnetic plug on their bike, consider this: It is working as designed.

All my tractors (korean) have a huge magnetic plug for the hydraulic fluid going through, that thing is coated with metal on the initial fluid change. The initial fluid change on a tractor is very expensive, normally 150 plus depending on the size of the machine, oil types, and filters. Tractors have an exact time schedule for initial oil changes and then the regular service intervals. Normally it is after 50 hours, then every 200 or so.

I wondered why can am didn't list it, but I guess it has too many variables for can am to calculate. Tractors are supposed to operated at a specific rpm or higher, whereas bikes can be operated by a granny or a speed demon driven at 30-110 mph for 500 - 6000 miles a year

I changed my oil today at 1862 miles, because it was over a year old. No, I didn't ride all that much over the past year. I had some setbacks and have no riding friends in the silly area I live in. Plus, my company has kept us out of the office going on 2 years, so I don't even have a commute. All that being said, I didn't have very much metal on the magnetic plug.

 

[Beginner]

I changed my oil today at 1862 miles, because it was over a year old. No, I didn't ride all that much over the past year. I had some setbacks and have no riding friends in the silly area I live in. Plus, my company has kept us out of the office going on 2 years, so I don't even have a commute. All that being said, I didn't have very much metal on the magnetic plug.

Awesome. I didn't pull mine yet, July will make a year. It's winter here so I only ride about once a month, and last time I nearly froze to death for my maintenance run. Two jackets, full helmet, gloves, boots etc, wind sliced through everything. 60mph winds at 20 degrees. I was so glad to get off the bike. I start it up, let it idle a while, take it out to the driveway for figure eights and circles, then drive it down the road and turn around and come back, let it idle a bit, then shut it down.

 

[javaspark]

Agreed, 100% - that statement is confusing. Brittany Morrow, in the video at the link DickB provided in his post, clarifies the difference between the break-in period and the "first servicing." Still, it doesn't explicitly say the oil change should be done at 200 miles, although that seems to be the implied recommendation.

 

[MudBug]

Awesome. I didn't pull mine yet, July will make a year. It's winter here so I only ride about once a month, and last time I nearly froze to death for my maintenance run. Two jackets, full helmet, gloves, boots etc, wind sliced through everything. 60mph winds at 20 degrees. I was so glad to get off the bike. I start it up, let it idle a while, take it out to the driveway for figure eights and circles, then drive it down the road and turn around and come back, let it idle a bit, then shut it down.

Cool. It's definitely winter in PA. Twenty degrees? That's hardcore. I think my record was upper 30s, and that was bad enough. This was on a Sportster, and I was warming my hands on the engine at stoplights.