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[UtahPete]

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Not soon......... The shop I kinda trust is out 7 weeks for service. Vacation to Pikes Peak and three-wheel rally cancelled!! Oregon ryde with friends cancelled. V-Max is a great back up but not for cross country with my wife.

Bummer. Is there anything else you can check out in the meantime, like the water pump and sensor?

Any fluids underneath the bike? Probably not but thought I'd ask.

How many miles on the bike? Just curious.

 

[trikermutha]

ENGINE OVERHEATING 1. Low coolant level. - Refill and check for leaks (coolant leaking out of engine leak indicator hole, hoses or clamps missing/defective, cylinder head gaskets leaks, ride plate leaking, etc.). Repair or replace. 2. Air in cooling system - Refill and bleed cooling system. - Check bleeding nozzles in water pump module and cylinder head if they are clogged. 3. Thermostat defective (does not open when engine gets hot) - Replace water pump module. 4. Water pump failure - Inspect water pump drive gears. - Inspect and replace defective components. 5. Water temperature sensor defective - Check or replace. Refer to ELECTRONIC FUEL INJECTION (EFI). 6. Radiator or hoses damaged - Check or replace damaged components. 7. Internal passage blocked in cooling system - Inspect and clean.

Took that out of the manual

Maybe Thermostat or pump or sensor??

Any codes?

 

[KX5062]

It sounds to me like the old fashioned thermostat is stuck being the mostly likely culprit. :dontknow:

 

[Lew L]

Finding sensor and pump

ENGINE OVERHEATING 1. Low coolant level. - Refill and check for leaks (coolant leaking out of engine leak indicator hole, hoses or clamps missing/defective, cylinder head gaskets leaks, ride plate leaking, etc.). Repair or replace. 2. Air in cooling system - Refill and bleed cooling system. - Check bleeding nozzles in water pump module and cylinder head if they are clogged. 3. Thermostat defective (does not open when engine gets hot) - Replace water pump module. 4. Water pump failure - Inspect water pump drive gears. - Inspect and replace defective components. 5. Water temperature sensor defective - Check or replace. Refer to ELECTRONIC FUEL INJECTION (EFI). 6. Radiator or hoses damaged - Check or replace damaged components. 7. Internal passage blocked in cooling system - Inspect and clean.

Took that out of the manual

Maybe Thermostat or pump or sensor??

Any codes?

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No codes, no puddles, no leaking fluid. Poked around to try and find the sensor today. I'll raise her up and see if I can get at it from the bottom. I thought the thermostat was built into the water pump as one unit---- hopefully not. Can the water pump be replaced from the side????

Thanks all.
Lew L

 

[Mikey]

........ So....
No codes, no puddles, no leaking fluid. Poked around to try and find the sensor today. I'll raise her up and see if I can get at it from the bottom. I thought the thermostat was built into the water pump as one unit---- hopefully not. Can the water pump be replaced from the side????

Thanks all.
Lew L

Go on cheapcycle and look at the break down, you will get a idea of what your up to!! Good luck!

 

[trikermutha]

........ So....
No codes, no puddles, no leaking fluid. Poked around to try and find the sensor today. I'll raise her up and see if I can get at it from the bottom. I thought the thermostat was built into the water pump as one unit---- hopefully not. Can the water pump be replaced from the side????

Thanks all.
Lew L

Believe the coolant temp sensor is on top of the engine somewhere by the middle spark plug around the intake and the water pump looks to be next to the oil filter in the middle.

 

[trikermutha]

[B]Thermostat Test Water pump module installed in vehicle Start engine and let engine heat up to operating temperature (higher than 80°C (176°F)). Check if the main supply hose from radiator to water pump module heats up with engine at operating temperature.

THERMOSTAT The thermostat is included in water pump module.

 

[Mikey]

That was on that break down on cheapcycle I was telling you about!!!

 

[trikermutha]

I got my info from my manual :thumbup:

Should point Lew in the right direction

 

[Lew L]

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Thanks guys, Looks like I'll take off some more plastic ( I Knew I would have to and it's no big deal). Should be able to get to the aforementioned parts. Lew L

 

[trikermutha]

Another part on my manual has the sensor left side of the engine.

CTS Access Refer to BODYsubsection and remove: – LH middle side panel – LH top side panel – LH acoustic panel.

Then this says in the manual

Coolant temperature sensor is located on the cylinder head.

Sorry Lew its one or the other. The left side sounds easier to get to.

 

[Lew L]

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Closer and closer-----------------

 

[trikermutha]

Keep us posted what you find

 

[PW2013STL]

Lew,
Something else to check is your radiators to make sure they are not plugged up. I know Ann Mayer's 2014 RT had her radiators replaced at the BRP homecoming due to plugged radiators. I also had overheating issues on my 2015 F3 due to plugged radiators. I ended up pulling both out and spent 5 hours cleaning the junk out from the packed fins.

 

[K80Shooter]

If it is not running hot (water boiling out of pressure cap) then it's probably just a sensor. I would try that 1st if the radiator is not stopped up.

I have never looked at a water pump on a spyder but on other vehicles I have saw the fan/propeller loosen enough to where it spins on the shaft after the coolant heats up enough to cause a over heating condition. If I were to take it off I would without a doubt replace both the water pump and thermostat. Don't waste your time taking it off to inspect then put it back on. Depending on age I might even replace the hose's.

 

[Lew L]

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Thanks guys------ will try to get to the sensor today. I've had those panels off before. I haven't ever heard of a sensor going bad here but with all the sensors on ALL our vehicles----------------------There will be failures.
Lew L

 

[Lew L]

Most panels off--- think I'll have to raise her up to get a good look.

 

[trikermutha]

From the one picture is on the left side under the center glove box just behind the frame. Behind the air filter box

Thats the CTS sensor.

 

[Lew L]

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Is the sensor on the back of the motor???? ---- seems like it from the cheapcycleparts.com schematic drawings. Air box is exposed.

closer and closer.....

 

[trikermutha]

On the left side next to the frame looks like a two prong connector and is attached to the engine. Below the center console

I guess it could be considered the back.

Wish I could post the picture.

If you disconnect while the engine is running it will cause the fans to turn on. Per the manual