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Fable of the 2020 RT Handlebar
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bikerbillone
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Some of us have removed the pin with a hacksaw and filed it down level. That will give a wide range of motion up and down to the rider's comfort level, then torque the four bolts down to satisfaction; rock solid and works for me. This method of bar adjustment is up to the owner and not a recommendation, it's just what I did and I'm satisfied with it.
bikerbillone
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Pleasure Airborne, hope it works for ya, I think it will.
KX5062
Active member
The only potential issue when using the short reach F3 bars is the thumb reach to the controls. The new bars moves the controls into a different angle in relation to your hands from the original position. Meaning, when you are holding onto the grips, the thumb shifter and other controls might not be easy to reach with your fingers without changing your grip constantly.
When you said you're 5' tall I'm making the assumption you have smaller hands, if not, then it may not be a concern.
MRH
Active member
Looking for a bit of clarification. The stock 2020 RT bars are too far away for me at 5'6". The short reach bars seem to too close based on what I've read. My 2014 RT is very comfortable, and either that distance or a bit closer would work well for me.
I'm not clear on the difference between the stock F3 bars and the F3 Attitude bars, and which will get me to where I'd like to be. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
I'm not clear on the difference between the stock F3 bars and the F3 Attitude bars, and which will get me to where I'd like to be. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
ButterSmooth
New member
I'm 5'5" and the stock bars on my 2020RT caused neck and shoulder pain, so I bought the Reduced Reach bars, and can confirm that they are two close for me. But, they are far better than the stock bars, just awkward for tight turns and feeling a little cramped. I've ordered what I think are the Reduced Reach F3 bars (part number 709402241) which fall between the stock bars and the Reduced Reach RT bars (I hope). They are on back order and I can update when they come in and I try them. The Reduced Reach bars are at the limit of the wiring harness, and I'm a little uncomfortable with 'stretching' wires. Clipping one cable tie made it work, but barely. It was difficult trying to move the wiring harness to get some slack.
bikerbillone
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Believe you are talking what some call 'attitude bars'. I have the short reach bars, and as you say, just a tad close, but work by trimming the up and down stop peg. Before I spend more $, I'll be giving a my short reach bars a time trial.
MRH
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First off, thank you for comfirming that the reduced reach bars will also likely be too close for me.
From what I can tell, that part number is for the stock F3 bars. I found this link for the F3 after I made my post that seemed helpful and makes me think that the 709402241 would be best:
https://lam.can-am.brp.com/on-road/spyder-f3-fitment.html
ButterSmooth
New member
They are definitely not the attitude bars. MRH indicates that they are stock F3 bars. It's my understanding that the attitude bars interfere with the console. Raising (rotating) the Reduced Reach bar isn't an option for me -- it does get them further away, but elevates the hands like ape hangers. I've learned that the best angle for my forearms is parallel to the ground.
Not sure what you mean by "interfere with the console". I installed the F3 Attitude bars (see post earlier in this thread), and they do not interfere with anything. For me, they were the perfect fit. I had tried the RT "short reach" bars but they were far too close for comfort.
bikerbillone
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Buttersmooth said: They are definitely not the attitude bars. MRH indicates that they are stock F3 bars. It's my understanding that the attitude bars interfere with the console. Raising (rotating) the Reduced Reach bar isn't an option for me -- it does get them further away, but elevates the hands like ape hangers. I've learned that the best angle for my forearms is parallel to the ground.
BikerBill said: So much nomenclature, if I change bars, guess I need to see them, touch them, so I know what to order. I thought I had the attitude bars all figured out, but maybe I don't. Or really, am I over thinking this thing, I have a tendency to do that.
BikerBill said: So much nomenclature, if I change bars, guess I need to see them, touch them, so I know what to order. I thought I had the attitude bars all figured out, but maybe I don't. Or really, am I over thinking this thing, I have a tendency to do that.
ButterSmooth
New member
One of the problems with learning from the forum is that most posts (mine included) don't always list the year and model of the subject bike. So, I don't know which particular bike had issues with the console/attitude bar interference, but I know I read it here and filed it away in one of the many dusty corners of my brain. I also remember that the post in question said they would only work (on the subject bike) with risers. I both over-think and over-read about subjects of interest and I'm not sure that helps. I'm going to put my year/model in my signature and hope that helps. I'm also going to start looking at signatures for year/model information, so I can dismiss details that aren't applicable to my 2020RT.
Here is a clip from the post, that I saved:
"Ok, there are 5 available for the F3:
Position 3, stock
Short reach
Long reach,
Attitude
Drag
The drag and attitude (buckhorn) won’t fit the RT without risers. They hit the dash. I haven’t tried them yet. As I learn stuff, I’ll post stuff. Joe"
Here is a clip from the post, that I saved:
"Ok, there are 5 available for the F3:
Position 3, stock
Short reach
Long reach,
Attitude
Drag
The drag and attitude (buckhorn) won’t fit the RT without risers. They hit the dash. I haven’t tried them yet. As I learn stuff, I’ll post stuff. Joe"
bikerbillone
Well-known member
ButterSmooth, excellent post, all true. Good info on the bars. 
hyea:
hyea:The 2020 and 2021 RT and RT Limited have an identical dash/steering column/etc. If something fits one, it will fit the other. Per jetfixer (who has Attitude bars installed on his 2020 RTL), they fit w/o add'l modifications. I haven't tried it myself because I have a 2018 but I don't doubt him.
ButterSmooth
New member
Smoak's take on the bars, somewhere in the middle of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRBYGR_AtSA&ab_channel=TheSmoaksVlogs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRBYGR_AtSA&ab_channel=TheSmoaksVlogs
Dikicep9
New member
Lamonster Handlebar Riser ...
Was the answer for me. I have dinosaur arms and am only 5 ft. tall, so my reach is diminished on the 2020 RT Ltd (not so on my 2012 RT). My 1st order of business after purchase was to speak to Joan (Lady Lamonster) and ask for advice. She steered me in the right direction. Bought the handlebar riser. Wonderful hubs installed it. Perfection!! Bought the brake riser as well. More Perfection! Lamonster's Garage is my "go to" for all things Spyder. Glad u found a fix.
Was the answer for me. I have dinosaur arms and am only 5 ft. tall, so my reach is diminished on the 2020 RT Ltd (not so on my 2012 RT). My 1st order of business after purchase was to speak to Joan (Lady Lamonster) and ask for advice. She steered me in the right direction. Bought the handlebar riser. Wonderful hubs installed it. Perfection!! Bought the brake riser as well. More Perfection! Lamonster's Garage is my "go to" for all things Spyder. Glad u found a fix.
ButterSmooth
New member
I'm going to look for that extension right now. Your dinosaur arms are matched by my inverse T-rex legs, and I always feel like I'm at complete extension to apply the brakes. Thanks for the pointer.
All I heard him say was something about having to clip a zip tie on the right side of the F3T/L if you add the short reach bars. He didn't mention the Attitude bars on either the F3 or RT.
BigJohn
New member
I have just the opposite problem as most of you. I have a 2020 RT and I'm 6'3" with long arms. When I turn my bars all the way in either direction, the grips hip my thighs before I hit the "lock". Also, the bars are about 2" to low for comfortable riding. So, I need bars with a 2" rise and no pullback at all. Is there such an animal or will I have to spring for a pair of "Heli Bars"?--and they ain't cheap!!!!
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