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Extra fuel idea - what do you think?
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Or lead to new discoveries and adventure :thumbup:
DGoebel
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Many, many, adventure and long distance riders do add modified, engineered extra fuel tanks to a number of different style motorcycles, you might check in the Long Distance forums, though I carry a Reda Innovations Spare can in my Spyder on my Iron Butt Rides, The Reda rides in my trunk, inside an extreme duty ZipLock type bag, and I've never had a spill or problem with it. https://www.reda.co/reda-gas-can
spyderider1
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I'd have to oppose the idea. Ask yourself, is the risk worth the reward? With today's technology there should be a very slim chance of running out of gas. GPS, Google Maps, etc. you can pinpoint your position and destination right down to the foot. I wouldn't like my chances in a crash to begin with and then to add liquid propellant to the equation would be just asking for a bad ending.
There's a lot of bling, add-ons and accessories for our Spyders to choose from. I'd leave the gas cans in the garage.
There's a lot of bling, add-ons and accessories for our Spyders to choose from. I'd leave the gas cans in the garage.
I like this but then I lose all my storage in my rear case. I am thinking about long trips when I need the storage space too.
I was thinking that for a while as well. But the more I researched, I found that all the overland guys both 4 wheel drive and bikers carry external fuel tanks. I couldn't find one recorded instance where it ever let to a calamity . I also see truck campers with external gas for generators as well as propane tanks. So I started feeling just fine about carrying external fuel. I guess if I got in that bad of an accident where the double walled Rotopax unit was compromised, then my body would likely be compromised far worse.
I am wondering if I mounted the bottom under the floor board, would there be enough space for the hole to match up once the Rotopax can is mounted. The floorboard is about an inch thick.
This is why I think a special bracket might be needed. And It would be way cool if there were a way to really secure it well. For sure longer screws would be needed if we used the existing floorboard screws. But I don't know how deep they go. I need to investigate some more.
Why mount it on the bottom of the floorboard? Remove the rubber pad and mount it directly to the top of the floorboard? Or, remove the floorboard and mount directly to the bracket.
IdahoMtnSpyder
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I agree with the comments about risk in the event of an accident. However, technology does not necessarily compensate for forgetfulness. On my recent trip I had to back track about 6 miles to Wall, SD because I absentmindedly got onto I-90 passing by a gas station that only two minutes earlier I had planned on stopping at. I wouldn't have made it to the next town.
Oilcat, take a look at the L bracket Pete linked to. I think you could fasten it directly to the floorboard with the mount on the opposite side of that shown in the product page. It would require drilling a couple holes through the floor board which would be small cosmetic price to pay for what you want to accomplish.
Oilcat, take a look at the L bracket Pete linked to. I think you could fasten it directly to the floorboard with the mount on the opposite side of that shown in the product page. It would require drilling a couple holes through the floor board which would be small cosmetic price to pay for what you want to accomplish.
bigbadbrucie
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:roflblack:
Do you suppose Old Age may have had a role in that? :roflblack:
Do you suppose Old Age may have had a role in that? :roflblack:
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Guilty as charged. :roflblack: I think that's happened to all of us at one time or another. :lecturef_smilie: Happened to my wife and me on I-80 in Nevada. We were listening to a Dolly Parton interview on the radio and passed our fuel stop by about 10 miles. DAMN!
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IdahoMtnSpyder
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Sure, but how much is a good question. What scares me is an incident in my Senior year in high school. Our house was next to a railroad and the drive crossed the track about a couple of hundred feet from the house. One morning, late in the fall, I went out to get on my Cushman scooter to go to school. The train was coming about a mile from home. I thought, "If I let the motor warm up a bit I'll need to wait for the train, but if I take off immediately I'll have plenty of time to cross the track." Well guess what? I let the motor warm up a few seconds, and took off. Damn, the headlight of the locomotive looked big when I crossed track about 100 feet in front of it. :yikes: Absentmindedness has plagued me my entire life. :banghead:
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God was with me, why I'll never know. I was in my 55 chevy waiting at an ungated double tracked train crossing for a train to go past. I was a 20 year old kid in a hurry. As the train passed I dropped in low and hit the gas. Holy Crap another train was coming the other way on the other tracks. I hit the brakes and the car stalled as I was trying to get it in reverse. Yea, I was crossways on the tracks in front of the second train. One hand on the key, one hand on the shift lever, one foot on the brake, and the other foot on the accelerator, and only seconds to live. Yea, God was my passenger that day.
RayBJ
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Every one of us takes a huge risk every time we jump aboard our rides. We mitigate the risks by wearing armor and paying extra attention to our surroundings.
I'm sure somewhere someone blew up while carrying gas but in my long lifetime, I'm un-aware of any.
I'm willing to risk carrying 1.75 gal on top (away from direct impact) in a 'designed for transport' rotopax container when on long tours since gas stations aren't always where the maps say they are or they are closed.
So, thank you to all of those that are trying to save my life but I've done a fairly decent job of that for 76 years.
I'm sure somewhere someone blew up while carrying gas but in my long lifetime, I'm un-aware of any.
I'm willing to risk carrying 1.75 gal on top (away from direct impact) in a 'designed for transport' rotopax container when on long tours since gas stations aren't always where the maps say they are or they are closed.
So, thank you to all of those that are trying to save my life but I've done a fairly decent job of that for 76 years.
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ARtraveler
R.I.P. Dwayne
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. As long as they follow the site rules. It is okay to express your ideas. In a group as large as ours, there are always going to be ideas from both sides of the spectrum. Both sides can express their ideas without attacking the other side.
I have no problem with others doing things that I consider to be risky or dangerous. I am sure that I fall into that category also. I don't wear ATGATT in 90 degree heat. I don't use high test gas. I like the OEM Kenda tires. ETC., etc.
I have been known to express these opinions from time to time. I have never attacked those who disagree.
I have no problem with others doing things that I consider to be risky or dangerous. I am sure that I fall into that category also. I don't wear ATGATT in 90 degree heat. I don't use high test gas. I like the OEM Kenda tires. ETC., etc.
I have been known to express these opinions from time to time. I have never attacked those who disagree.
FrogmanDave
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@Ollicat I would do away with the floorboard altogether. Get a heavy duty bracket and bolt it directly with the bolt holes already in the Spyder. You could space it out as to not contact the paint or create problems with interference. Since the factory screw threads are designed to hold the weight of a person I'm sure they would support a gallon (or few) of gas. Someone may have already suggested this but I missed it if they did.
RayBJ
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ARTraveler wrote: "Everyone is entitled to their opinion. As long as they follow the site rules. It is okay to express your ideas. In a group as large as ours, there are always going to be ideas from both sides of the spectrum. Both sides can express their ideas without attacking the other side."
Pretty funny statement considering you just 'cancelled' my opinion by removing it. I did not 'attack' anyone. I simply asked why some folks find it necessary to poop poop other's ideas.
Appears I stepped on someone's toes!
Pretty funny statement considering you just 'cancelled' my opinion by removing it. I did not 'attack' anyone. I simply asked why some folks find it necessary to poop poop other's ideas.
Appears I stepped on someone's toes!
hyea:
canamjhb
Well-known member
Another option....
For years when touring I carried a syphon tube. It was a long clear plastic tube about 3/8 inch in diameter with a rubber squeeze bulb in the middle. For a fuel "tank" to syphon into, I carried a (couple) 1 gallon plastic zip-bags. Never had to use it but it was there in an emergency for me or others. And, it weighed next to nothing and didn't take up any valuable space..... Jim
For years when touring I carried a syphon tube. It was a long clear plastic tube about 3/8 inch in diameter with a rubber squeeze bulb in the middle. For a fuel "tank" to syphon into, I carried a (couple) 1 gallon plastic zip-bags. Never had to use it but it was there in an emergency for me or others. And, it weighed next to nothing and didn't take up any valuable space..... Jim
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