Engine Stop Switch -- Really?

[Peteoz]

"KILL SWITCHES" are generally considered "emergency KILL switches." And yes they are there for a reason. But not to shut off your machine on a regular basis. That's what the key is for. (IMO)
Maybe I'm wrong here: But if you just hit the kill switch, the "system" is still draining the battery. ~ And that is a BAD thing. Especially if you forget. (leave key on in garage etc.)

Yeah, I agree completely re hitting the Kill Switch and forgetting the key, TRLBLZR1.......and I am bound to forget. I just want to make it part of a routine so that knowing where it is, is automatic. I might actually use the key to power off and then hit the Kill Switch. Not the recommended routine, but it will achieve a purpose. I know from experience with hazard lights on a car, that when you need to use them in a hurry, you can lose precious seconds trying to find the switch, with vehicles bearing down on you from behind :shocked:

Pete

 

[Road-Kill]

It's interesting how everyone's ideas that differ from yours are "gibberish". Road Kill.....I think that pretty much says it all, apart from you obviously feeling that name calling somehow strengthens your opinion. :dontknow:

Pete

You are correct. I'm not into name calling and wrote that apparently without proofing it enough. Other then using the word "siimpleton" I stand on my arguement. nojoke

 

[SpyderAnn01]

Habit Forming.

I fully expect that some of you would change your mind after you forget to turn the ignition switch off.......and run your battery down......after using the "kill" switch to stop the engine.
Of course, that also means that you forgot to take the key OUT of the ignition too. :yikes:

When you get into a routine you don't even have to think about it. Muscle memory.
I hit the engine cutoff switch followed by the key but I don't usually remove the key until I've gotten into my trunk then I use it to lock the rear trunk. I've never left my key on.

 

[SpyderAnn01]

The "Kill Switch" has absolutely no value other then another means of turning off the bike. It is not a means of accident reduction. It will not assist in anything anywhere at anytime other then giving you a warm fuzzy feeling that you are doing "something". Pressing the "eco" button likewise does absolutely nothing and both are advice given by lawyers to reduce financial loss.

By the time you figure out to shut off your engine after an accident your significant other has already cashed in your life insurance policy and is sitting on a beach drinking pinna coladas. This of course is after you were scraped off the tread of the truck that ran over you. :roflblack:

I suppose you feel the same about wearing helmets on your Spyder or seat belts in your car?

You know... statements like this are so flat out ridiculous....for you to claim "It will not assist in anything anywhere at anytime..." when we have a person ON THIS THREAD who had just such a situation where it DID assist them.

Fine.. we get it... YOU don't want to use it.... but it DOES serve a purpose.. and no.. it's not all about 'accident reduction'. Not sure how many times we have to say that for you to understand it.

It's common sense to use it.. and you've provided ZERO reason why a person should not use it. Switch failures have been very rare.

Don't personally like to use it ... fine... but you're giving bad advice to others that is in direct conflict with what EXPERTS who train MSF make very clear... use the damn thing.

Well said Dan!

 

[Bob Denman]

All this gibberish about the "kill switch" has me wondering who actually reads the very important "safety card"?
Since almost everyone is in love with the "kill switch" they must also read religiously the "safety card".
Who reads the "safety card" before they press the eco button? (YOU DO READ IT .....RIGHT?)......(SEVERAL TIMES A DAY!)
Next week the simpletons will argue they check their air pressure every day! (EVERY FRIGGIN DAY!)

I'm heading out to use the "kill switch" cause.....
I might have forgotten to take my key out.
Maybe I forgot to get off my bike.
I might get kidnapped by aliens.....you people are too much.

 

[petegtsv10]

All this gibberish about the "kill switch" has me wondering who actually reads the very important "safety card"?
Since almost everyone is in love with the "kill switch" they must also read religiously the "safety card".
Who reads the "safety card" before they press the eco button? (YOU DO READ IT .....RIGHT?)......(SEVERAL TIMES A DAY!)
Next week the simpletons will argue they check their air pressure every day! (EVERY FRIGGIN DAY!)

I'm heading out to use the "kill switch" cause.....
I might have forgotten to take my key out.
Maybe I forgot to get off my bike.
I might get kidnapped by aliens.....you people are too much.

We are among the "simpletons" who check tire psi daily and many times while we're riding! We have TPMS on all of our bikes and it really does give us peace of mind. Every time I feel an odd little squirm, I can assure myself it's not a tire going down. The rest of your post just leaves me in awe regarding both your attitude and your logic......

 

[Road-Kill]

last post on this topic.

This thread is about as informative as reading the graffiti inside a public bathroom. Chow.

 

[Bob Denman]

This thread is about as informative as reading the graffiti inside a public bathroom. Chow.

Don't knock it... When I was serving my Collegiate Sentence (A thousand years ago...): that's where I got the best dating tips from! :2thumbs:

 

[Peteoz]

This thread is about as informative as reading the graffiti inside a public bathroom. Chow.

Well it WAS quite informative reading about the different reasons for using the Kill Switch, until you chimed in with your "it won't help you in an accident, you bunch of idiots" monotribe, Road Kill. :shocked: ...maybe it will get back to being informative now. After all, the idea is to look at all the points of view and determine if some of the actions will be an advantage to the reader....and for me, they are.:thumbup: ........have fun having your dinner (I assume that's what you mean by "Chow").....

Pete

 

[CrashDavis]

When you get into a routine you don't even have to think about it. Muscle memory.

This is the closest I've seen to the reason I was given when I took the MSF course. The instructor taught to use the kill switch routinely, not to prevent any accident, but when you have one it is automatic to shut the engine down quickly instead of having to find the key. If you've been thrown or hit it probably doesn't matter either way, but if you're still with the bike it is a whole lot easier to find that switch next to your hand than fumble for the key. And, in my mind, I want that engine off as soon as possible.

 

[SpyderAnn01]

........have fun having your dinner (I assume that's what you mean by "Chow").....

Pete

:roflblack: He's likely eating road kill for dinner

 

[Deer Slayer]

no

Never use the stupid thing. Not needed as a Spyder is a roadster not a motorcycle. It will not fall over if you do not turn off the engine quickly.:yikes:

 

[Bob Denman]

:roflblack: He's likely eating road kill for dinner

 

[Firefly]

Never use the stupid thing. Not needed as a Spyder is a roadster not a motorcycle. It will not fall over if you do not turn off the engine quickly.:yikes:

But hitting it could keep your 3-wheeled roadster from continuing on down the road if you're thrown from it.. especially if you have your cruise control on. It could stop a run-away-roadster from hitting someone else.

FYI mine is registered as a motorcycle, just like most states also do.

 

[newbert]

Very interesting thread (especially since I'm the OP )!

Based on the responses in the thread, I've started using the Kill Switch to shut the engine off when I'm done riding. Today, I simply turned the key to the OFF position instead, just for the heck of it - and the Spyder started chirping at me for about 10-15 seconds.

My GUESS is that it didn't like that I left it in first gear when shutting it off with the key. (The emergency brake was already set.)

So why does it chirp when shutting off with the key, while it doesn't chirp when I use the kill switch instead? :dontknow: (In both instances, I'm in first gear and the emergency brake is set.)

Thanks!

 

[Firefly]

Very interesting thread (especially since I'm the OP )!

Based on the responses in the thread, I've started using the Kill Switch to shut the engine off when I'm done riding. Today, I simply turned the key to the OFF position instead, just for the heck of it - and the Spyder started chirping at me for about 10-15 seconds.

My GUESS is that it didn't like that I left it in first gear when shutting it off with the key. (The emergency brake was already set.)

So why does it chirp when shutting off with the key, while it doesn't chirp when I use the kill switch instead? :dontknow: (In both instances, I'm in first gear and the emergency brake is set.)

Thanks!

See all the trouble you started! :joke:

Can't speak for how the SE works and why you get chirps.... I'm sure someone else can chirp in on this.....

 

[Peteoz]

Very interesting thread (especially since I'm the OP )!

Based on the responses in the thread, I've started using the Kill Switch to shut the engine off when I'm done riding. Today, I simply turned the key to the OFF position instead, just for the heck of it - and the Spyder started chirping at me for about 10-15 seconds.

My GUESS is that it didn't like that I left it in first gear when shutting it off with the key. (The emergency brake was already set.)

So why does it chirp when shutting off with the key, while it doesn't chirp when I use the kill switch instead? :dontknow: (In both instances, I'm in first gear and the emergency brake is set.)

Thanks!

i've got a 16 F3-L, and I always put it in first gear and apply the handbrake before I switch it off with the key, Newbert. I have never had chirping in that scenario, so I can't imagine that was the cause. Sorry, but I don't know what else may have caused it.

Pete

 

[SpyderAnn01]

Were you hitting the brake switch at the same time you switched the key off? I think the beep is triggered by the key and not the cutoff switch so if the brake isn't fully engaged when you turn the key it may trigger the beep.

 

[BLACK REV 800 X]

Single chirp

On my 2017 F3 Limited, about 3 seconds after shutting down with the key I get a faint chirp similar to how a smoke detector bad battery warning sounds. If you don't listen for it you won't hear it as it is faint.

 

[SpyderAnn01]

On my 2017 F3 Limited, about 3 seconds after shutting down with the key I get a faint chirp similar to how a smoke detector bad battery warning sounds. If you don't listen for it you won't hear it as it is faint.

I believe he's talking about the parking brake alarm.