emergency action

[Chupaca]

One rule..!!

trust no one and drive that way..!! :thumbup:

 

[Oldmanzues]

As usual, all the above good. I neved did go with lay a two wheeler down, as said, rubbr stops faster then metal.

I would add take a good trike course, if possible. You can always learn or relearn things. What does a pilot do to get better, pratice.
After the course, where you will learn emergency braking in a turn and straight line, go to a empty parking lot and do it.
Good luck and safe riding

 

[Deanna777]

trust no one and drive that way..!! :thumbup:

:agree: Deanna777

 

[Yazz]

Thank you all for the responses My reference to laying down a bike wasnt the purpose of my thread. I am also a privot pilot and there are emergency procedure book. I know there is no such thing for a Spyder but I was hoping to learn from the many Learnered Spyder riders like you can from fellow pilots

Having a PPL, you are full aware of knowing where safe landing is at all times, glide ratio, getting under the power lines, over the barbed wire fence and make sure there isn't a bull in the pasture routine.

Same hold true for riding a Spyder. Know where your outs are at all times. You know to move your eyes every five seconds. Always know where the safe spot is.

Did I tell you there are more cars on the road than planes in the air? No holding patterns...

You have been given good information.:thumbup:

 

[BajaRon]

My belief is that anyone who says they laid their bike down is actually trying to convince themselves (or others) that they really did not lose control of the motorcycle. Unless you have no "go right" or "go left" options and are heading for certain decapitation there is no reason to attempt flipping a bike on it's side even if you were gifted with a quick enough reaction time to do so.

The "I purposely laid the bike down" story has been repeated so often that I believe some riders relate to it as some sort of club they are required to join to demonstrate their prowess.

Superior braking power and situational awareness are the primary weapons any rider (Spyder or motorcycle) has available when faced with the unexpected.

I have to agree. I've laid bikes down at speed, but it sure wasn't on purpose. Once you and the bike are down, you've forefieted all other options.

One time it was hard parts hitting in a curve and my choices were to run off the road or try and play delicate footsie with the hard parts. I chose the 2nd option and it ALMOST worked.

The other time was riding knobbies on the street (very unwise). I knew it wasn't a good idea but I thought I was smart enough to make it work. And it would have except for the 4 deer standing in the roadway as I came around a mountain curve.... (OUCH!) I still don't think it was necessary for them to take up both lanes. They did move just enough to let me slide by (literally)! I can still see them calmly watching me pass between them.

I think I amused them....

 

[YPILOT]

Can Am Safety Video

Unlike a motorcycle you cant lay a Spyder down in an emergency. I have never read a thread that discusses techniques to use when you are faced with road challenges. Does any one have any imput on procedures to be followed when faced with the unexpectef

When the Spyder was introduced there was a series of training video's on you tube.
Check out the first one with this link. From there you can find the rest.

 

[OldCowboy]

Nobody lays a bike down. (How do you practice that???) What happens is you lock your front wheel and crash.

 

[Kraut]

Two things are all you have going for you - situational awareness (paying full attention to what is happening, around you, all the time) and ATGATT. Beyond those two things, you have no control.

I would like to add one more thing to being situationally aware and that is to be really aware of your power reserve. I discovered many years ago both in flying and motorcycling that you may have no other choice but to hit the throttle and power your way out of a bad situation.

 

[clogwog]

Nobody lays a bike down. (How do you practice that???) What happens is you lock your front wheel and crash.

Have to disagree, here in Australia in an advanced riding course a number of years ago we were taught the techniques of laying a bike down in an emergency. They supplied the bikes for this action. This action can actually give the rider some degree of ''control'' in an bad situation, and is better than slamming into the side of a vehicle or tree etc. It can also save the bike from some pretty bad damage.

 

[DriftersWay]

One smart defense is to find a good 3-wheeled safety coarse and take it. Amazing what you will learn. I've taken it for both the 2 and 3 wheeled. Well worth the time.
Butch

 

[spydermyke990]

After the years I've spent driving 18 wheels, I'm no stranger the stupidity of the "4-wheelers" out there. I've seen a lot more that will happily cut in front of me to get to an off-ramp while typing or talking on their cell phones, oblivious to the wreckage they could've caused. Luckily, experience has taught me to just back off and make sure there's room. On a spyder, I love the freedom I have, but there much more of a feel of being vulnerable, especially in traffic, and those soccer-mom (I know I'm slamming a segment of the population here and I'm sure there's a few that ride, but I gotta tell ya, it's the most guilty segment of the motoring public, and those stupid "tuner-cars" with the mosquito killer mufflers are the 2nd most guilty)-piloted suv's and mini vans seem that much more dangerous, and even more so during tourist season. A helmet where you have unobstructed peripheral vision helps(which is why I like the icon variant), and for those who have the blue tooth stereos on their:spyder2:, best to have what ever tunes you have planned for your ride arranged into a playlist and leave it there. While I like the stereo system, that little screen can be a distraction, and I've caught myself paying too much attention to it at times. Keep those eyeballs moving!! I'm thinking of getting one of those HUD systems when my money gets a little better.

 

[Bob Denman]

Have to disagree, here in Australia in an advanced riding course a number of years ago we were taught the techniques of laying a bike down in an emergency. They supplied the bikes for this action. This action can actually give the rider some degree of ''control'' in an bad situation, and is better than slamming into the side of a vehicle or tree etc. It can also save the bike from some pretty bad damage.

:shocked::hun: What possible sort of "control", can you have over what is now just a big lump bouncing down the roadway? :dontknow:

Upright: you have brakes and steering; right up until the very end of what still may turn out, to be, a every bad situation...

 

[Magdave]

:shocked::hun: What possible sort of "control", can you have over what is now just a big lump bouncing down the roadway? :dontknow:

Upright: you have brakes and steering; right up until the very end of what still may turn out, to be, a every bad situation...

The brake won't do much if you are in dirt, gravel or ditch. Laying it down does more it turns the bike into a plow and WILL slow it down quicker. That is the only time it may be better. Don't ask how I know but I believe it saved my life once. If I had stayed up there was no traction to stop me on the tires. :thumbup:

 

[Bob Denman]

I'll give you that one; :lecturef_smilie: On an unpaved surface... laying the bike down, will save Dave's life!

 

[BajaRon]

Nobody lays a bike down. (How do you practice that???) What happens is you lock your front wheel and crash.

Locking the front brake is the quickest way to lay 2 wheels down. It happens so amazingly fast, most do not realize how it happened. One of the big reasons for ABS on motorcycles.

 

[bscrive]

'I'll give you that one;

On an unpaved surface... laying the bike down, will save Dave's life!

'


...unless the bike decides to dance all over your body and face. :roflblack::roflblack: If you cannot stop quick enough when you are upright, on any surface, then you are going too fast.

 

[Bob Denman]

Amen... :thumbup:

 

[Magdave]

'I'll give you that one; :lecturef_smilie: On an unpaved surface... laying the bike down, will save Dave's life! '


...unless the bike decides to dance all over your body and face. :roflblack::roflblack: If you cannot stop quick enough when you are upright, on any surface, then you are going too fast.

Sometime off-road excursions are un avoidable. Ever come across gravel all over the road from a turn on they can be the same as marbles and unknown until you until it is too late. Same for oil after a long dry spell and rain. Me I hit some gravel in a turn that was unseen. Life happens....and there are always exceptions to generally good rules.

 

[BajaRon]

Sometime off-road excursions are un avoidable. Ever come across gravel all over the road from a turn on they can be the same as marbles and unknown until you until it is too late. Same for oil after a long dry spell and rain. Me I hit some gravel in a turn that was unseen. Life happens....and there are always exceptions to generally good rules.

And a great reason to ride a Spyder... :thumbup:

 

[Magdave]

And a great reason to ride a Spyder... :thumbup:

:agree: you cannot nor would ever need to lay one down. Now you know my secret and why I ride one now. I quit for a long time after that excursion I did not walk away totally un hurt.