Doing 1st oil change (Spyder RT) I have a few questions (((Pics)))

[trikermutha]

Yes drain both

You will get a quart or less from the trans and can clean your magnet

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Yes drain both

You will get a quart or less from the trans and can clean your magnet

And it is ONE filter change ..... the engine and trans. share the same oil ..... Mike :thumbup:

 

[K80Shooter]

Also very important!!!!

Make sure that the torx and hex tools are seated all the way into the socket/plug. If not you will strip it out. Take a small hammer and tap it into the plug, this also helps to break the plug loose.

 

[PW2013STL]

For the rear I made a box 7" wide by 12" long using 2x6 and a 1/2" piece of plywood on the bottom. I jack up the Spyder using a harbor freight motorcycle lift with one arm as close to the back of the center frame, but clear of the spring. I then lift it high enough to slide the box under the rear tire and use jack stands under each a arm closest to the tires as possible. lower the lift until the Spyder is resting on all three. This way I don't have to fear a lift frailer, or the Spyder tipping off and gives me plenty of room under.

 

[shakin_jake]

Quick question- Is the oil filter under the right or the left service cover? Just starting to drain the oil (engine side first, as if it makes a difference). My owners manual is a little confusing on this point (which side cover the oil filter access is at) Thanking you in advance!


Best,


Jake
Reddick Fla.
It’s never too late to have a happy

 

[PW2013STL]

The oil filter is under the right side cover. you will need to lift the brake master cylinder up and out to give you clearance to remove the filter. The cover on the filter is 36mm nut. Same size as the rear axle nut.

 

[shakin_jake]

~~~right service cover removed. Admittedly, I was a bit hesitant pulling this service cover, remembering horrors of finding broken tabs on various Tupperware covers used on the 93’ Honda ST1100 I bought 3rd hand. Actually, I was pleasantly surprised how robust (IMO) this service cover tabs appear to be

In regards to the owners manual that came with my 2021 Spyder RT Limited, the section that describes replacing the engine oil filter, the manual on page 104 says to remove the left service cover yet while perusing the Equipment section of this manual (page 42) it states the oil filter is located under the right service cover. I rest my case=


Best,


Jake
Reddick Fla.
It’s never too late to have a happy childhood

 

[shakin_jake]

The oil filter is under the right side cover. you will need to lift the brake master cylinder up and out to give you clearance to remove the filter. The cover on the filter is 36mm nut. Same size as the rear axle nut.

~~~thanks for the quick reply! I had a feeling the oil filter was/is under the right service cover, despite following the instructions in the owner manual supplied with this fine ma-chine=


Best,


Jake
Reddick Fla.
It’s never too late to have a happy childhood

 

[trikermutha]

That oil filter cover may take a bit of effort to break loose.

 

[EdMat]

Not silly at all. Right side. Tupperware is not hard to remove at all. Mostly pops off, but there are 2 or 3 screws on the second piece off. There are some utube vids showing how. The part people seem to have a hard time with is moving the brake fluid reservoir out of the way for easy access to the filter. But once you do it it's so simple the next time. It's held in place by a piece of 1/4" air tubing on the back side that forms a wedge lock between the reservoir and the mount. Use needle nose pliers to pull it out. Then if you have some of the tubing laying around cut a piece a couple of inches longer and angle cut one end. A fairly easy job just became a piece of cake.

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Quick question- Is the oil filter under the right or the left service cover? Just starting to drain the oil (engine side first, as if it makes a difference). My owners manual is a little confusing on this point (which side cover the oil filter access is at) Thanking you in advance!


Best,


Jake
Reddick Fla.
It’s never too late to have a happy

You need to re-move the upper right side piece .... then the insulated panel under it ..... As I said above I used a large hole cutter so I can access the filter withoput removing that panel .... Mike :thumbup:

 

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

The engine drain torx plug is angled a bit toward the back. It is not perpendicular to the underside surface of the bike.

 

[shakin_jake]

Cretin Girl is still in the dungeon (my garage) up on the ramps and the rear is suspended in the air via a floor jack lifting the frame support around the rear shock w/wood support so the shock bolt is not doing the heavy lifting=

Anywho, how do you remove the brake fluid reservoir?!? I watched a you tube video where the person doing the oil change along with R&Ring the oil filter, all he did was lift that reservoir up and away from the support it’s attached to like there’s nothing to it. When I try to lift my reserve up and out, it feels like the damn thing is bolted on for dear life

Help Jake relucidate this baffling situation


Best,


Jake
Reddick Fla.
It’s never too late to have a happy childhood

 

[K80Shooter]

There is a very small black tube in the back of it that has to be removed. I used a pair of hemostats for the job.

 

[shakin_jake]

There is a very small black tube in the back of it that has to be removed. I used a pair of hemostats for the job.

~~~ totally awesome shooter, just so happens Jake has a lengthy pair of hemostats. We’ll see what kind of trouble he can get into using them


Best,


Jake
Reddick Fla.
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while

 

[PW2013STL]

As EdMat stated did you look for the black piece of air hose that BRP puts behind the reservoir? That does a great job of locking in place. As he stated pull it out using nettle nose plyers and then you should have no problem removing the reservoir.

 

[shakin_jake]

The engine drain torx plug is angled a bit toward the back. It is not perpendicular to the underside surface of the bike.

~~~which is why I didn’t feel bad about not lifting the rear up when draining the engine side of the sump. I did however lift the rear while draining from the trans plug


Best,



Jake
Reddick Fla.
It’s never too late to have a happy childhood

 

[shakin_jake]

After my first oil change ( on a 14 RT ) I decided to make the next one easier by using a HOLE cutter on the inside " insulated baffle panel ", Now I don't have to remove that to get to the Oil Filter :clap: ... I didn't notice any extra heat coming thru not any louder noise ...... have fun .... Mike :thumbup:

~~~ FWIW Mike, my 2021 Spyder RT does not have the insulated baffle panel your 14’ RT has. Just an FYI


Best,


Jake
Reddick Fla.
It’s never too late to have a happy childhood

 

[shakin_jake]

As EdMat stated did you look for the black piece of air hose that BRP puts behind the reservoir? That does a great job of locking in place. As he stated pull it out using nettle nose plyers and then you should have no problem removing the reservoir.

~~~I actually tried removing said piece of 1/4” tubing last night with the pair of needle nose pliers I have. The reach my pliers have couldn’t get a bite on that tubing, & I didn’t have the state of mind to use the hemostats I have. I’m thankful shooter mentioned that was what he used (Hemostats). None the less, thank you Ed for pointing out that there is a length of 1/4” tubing that needs to be removed. Unfortunately I used the wrong tool first time around. Had I had a pair of needle nose pliers with a longer reach, I would have been in like Flynn


Best,


Jake
Reddick Fla.
It’s never too late to have a happy childhood

 

[EdMat]

When you go back using a longer piece will eliminate that problem and it gets real simple. :roflblack: