PCBeachBum
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Sorry about the length of this post.
I've got the Bluuues at my dealerships service dept..
After my steering locked up and the concern this service dept had along with the quickness the DPS was replaced and the Spyder returned to me. I had nothing but praise for this dealerships service dept. but, that has changed and now I have nothing but Anger for there non service to problems.
BUDS is more important! Well BUDS didn't pickup my steering problem, even with Check DPS scrolling across my dash and BUDS said it was normal. How wrong BUDS was along with the service dept, sending me on my way and 4 days later when the steering locked up.
I've taken my Spyder in numerous times for the same problems and leave with a BUDS report, bill and no fix.
First was the coolant smell, that went away after I took the panels off and rinsed it down with water and its back slightly now. The service dept charged me $53.37 for a BUDS printout and no fix.
Next I took it over for a gas smell and asked them to check the Y gaskets. The subject was changed to what octane I was using and I changed to 93 and still no fix as the smell is stronger now and they didn't check the Y gaskets
Now its back firing while I'm shifting through the gears and at every stop. I get a gas smell. Its stalling in traffic and am finished with my service dept. :gaah:
I stopped at a local Custom Bike Shop on the way home from the dealership. Talking to the owner, he said come back to my service area. I followed him back and he introduced me to a tech. This tech used to work at the dealership I bought my Spyder at. He was trained by BRP on Spyder repairs and he took my Spyder for a ride. :thumbup:
Coming back, he said that is rough and told me to get new Y gaskets. Honda makes a better gasket so get those instead of the BRP gaskets. He said get new stock plugs and when you get the parts, let me know and I'll get this Spyder running right for you. :thumbup:
He said that most service depts, rely to much on the BUDS printout and there are times, when you have to get in there with your hands to see whats really going on. He said they wouldn't let him do that and that was a big reason why he left.
Talking to him further, I told him that it runs better at night when its cooler, than during the heat of the day and he said that sounds like the 02 sensor isn't allowing enough air in and I told him about this 02 Sensor Mod. He said if you want to try it get it and I'll install it at the sametime. :thumbup:
He also said he would pressure test the coolant cannister and make sure that isn't cracked at the seam. He said its common for that to happen and in all, I want to get your Spyder running right for you.
:thumbup:
One other thing I'm going to order is the Missing Air Dam, to force more air through the radiator, to keep it cooler.
As of Sunday, after ryding it Satuday. Its parked until I can get these repairs done by a Spyder tech that wants to do it right. I'll still take it to the dealership for warranty work and updates but for repairs I'll take it to the tech over at this Custom Cycle Shop.
If I had the tools like I had in CT, I'd do the work myself. I've replaced exhaust systems and converters in my garage but, being out in the hot sun with temps in the 90s and the humidity to match the temp. I'm forced to take it for repairs.
This Custom Cycle Shop, charges $65.00 an hour for labor and adjusts the cost to the time spent on your ride. If they spend 20 minutes on it, they adjust the labor cost to 20 minutes. The owner said I'm not in the business to break the bank of my customers in this economy and hearing that also helped in my choice to take the Spyder to them, instead of the dealership where I know I'll get a bill and No fix! :thumbup:
Other's from this board, that I talk to on IM have said, you found a Gem there for repairs and they wished they could find a place that is just as concerned other than the service depts at dealerships, where BUDS instead of techs, make the calls on what needs to be done.
I've got the Bluuues at my dealerships service dept..
After my steering locked up and the concern this service dept had along with the quickness the DPS was replaced and the Spyder returned to me. I had nothing but praise for this dealerships service dept. but, that has changed and now I have nothing but Anger for there non service to problems.
BUDS is more important! Well BUDS didn't pickup my steering problem, even with Check DPS scrolling across my dash and BUDS said it was normal. How wrong BUDS was along with the service dept, sending me on my way and 4 days later when the steering locked up.
I've taken my Spyder in numerous times for the same problems and leave with a BUDS report, bill and no fix.
First was the coolant smell, that went away after I took the panels off and rinsed it down with water and its back slightly now. The service dept charged me $53.37 for a BUDS printout and no fix.
Next I took it over for a gas smell and asked them to check the Y gaskets. The subject was changed to what octane I was using and I changed to 93 and still no fix as the smell is stronger now and they didn't check the Y gaskets
Now its back firing while I'm shifting through the gears and at every stop. I get a gas smell. Its stalling in traffic and am finished with my service dept.
:gaah:I stopped at a local Custom Bike Shop on the way home from the dealership. Talking to the owner, he said come back to my service area. I followed him back and he introduced me to a tech. This tech used to work at the dealership I bought my Spyder at. He was trained by BRP on Spyder repairs and he took my Spyder for a ride. :thumbup:
Coming back, he said that is rough and told me to get new Y gaskets. Honda makes a better gasket so get those instead of the BRP gaskets. He said get new stock plugs and when you get the parts, let me know and I'll get this Spyder running right for you. :thumbup:
He said that most service depts, rely to much on the BUDS printout and there are times, when you have to get in there with your hands to see whats really going on. He said they wouldn't let him do that and that was a big reason why he left.
Talking to him further, I told him that it runs better at night when its cooler, than during the heat of the day and he said that sounds like the 02 sensor isn't allowing enough air in and I told him about this 02 Sensor Mod. He said if you want to try it get it and I'll install it at the sametime. :thumbup:
He also said he would pressure test the coolant cannister and make sure that isn't cracked at the seam. He said its common for that to happen and in all, I want to get your Spyder running right for you.
:thumbup:One other thing I'm going to order is the Missing Air Dam, to force more air through the radiator, to keep it cooler.
As of Sunday, after ryding it Satuday. Its parked until I can get these repairs done by a Spyder tech that wants to do it right. I'll still take it to the dealership for warranty work and updates but for repairs I'll take it to the tech over at this Custom Cycle Shop.
If I had the tools like I had in CT, I'd do the work myself. I've replaced exhaust systems and converters in my garage but, being out in the hot sun with temps in the 90s and the humidity to match the temp. I'm forced to take it for repairs.
This Custom Cycle Shop, charges $65.00 an hour for labor and adjusts the cost to the time spent on your ride. If they spend 20 minutes on it, they adjust the labor cost to 20 minutes. The owner said I'm not in the business to break the bank of my customers in this economy and hearing that also helped in my choice to take the Spyder to them, instead of the dealership where I know I'll get a bill and No fix! :thumbup:
Other's from this board, that I talk to on IM have said, you found a Gem there for repairs and they wished they could find a place that is just as concerned other than the service depts at dealerships, where BUDS instead of techs, make the calls on what needs to be done.
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