Dave & Teds Most Excellent Adventures 2013

[OJ UK]

Another cute doggie!!! Awwww!!! :thumbup:

Hope he takes to the Spyder!!

 

[CyncySpyder]

This weekend was the type that EVERY SPYDER OWNER dreams for

We hit 70F degrees for the first time this year and it was nice and sunny on Saturday. Sunday was pretty close, tho a bit cloudy and it started raining where we live, right at 8pm :yikes:

Teddy & I didn't get to ryde however, we did spend the entire weekend in the garage working on his Sled. Friday night, all day Saturday & again all day Sunday, that is, until I got the painting/coating/dipping done enough to reassemble and take Teds Red & Black Sled out for a test spin, right at 8pm :shocked::cus::cus: on Sunday evening :banghead::banghead::banghead: You know what, I didn't care, we still went for a short test run, just down to the dead end of our street and back to the garage.

OMG!!! Let me tell you, that itch I've had for going on 3 years now, I got to scratch that d:cus:mn itch really good, and for the most part, that itch has calmed down to where now, its barely noticeable. Still got the exhaust to work on, and eventually the rear wheel/sprocket and all that mess back there, but the biggest part that was in my face, the handlebars and the foot-peg support castings, they are now :doorag: ALL BLACKED OUT :doorag: and they look pretty damn sweet if I do say so myself :clap:

 

[ThreeFeet]

Hey! Private is private. Enough said! You've had a rough time of late and the odd indiscretion is
entirely understandable so forget I asked, Dave.

Very happy you got out for some Spyder time with your boss. It's even good that the Red Sled is half naked
right now as you can see if all the work has been successful and when you get around to putting the covers
back on at least you'll be reasonably certain that everything in there is working well!

:agree:Same here Dave, didn't want to get you into a twist, you got enough on your plate as is. Was just sounding off, hope all straightens out for ya.

 

[murphybrown]

see you soon

I'm ready to ryde ryde ryde .. see you in a couple weeks Dave & Teddy...:thumbup:

 

[CyncySpyder]

addendum - Baby steps

I mighta got some of y'alls hopes up that we actually got Teds Red & Black Sled ALL put back together, and that just isn't the case.

We got it back together 'ENOUGH' to take it for a test ryde, but not actually any more back together than before. I meant, just all the parts we took off to paint/coat were back on, and it was once again rideable, but we still have a long ways to go before its actually completed.

Before I actually start on the reassembly process, I've got two rather annoying issues that must be dealt with.


Our first is our Left hand side HID light keeps going off and on at will almost. I've done my preliminary investigating and found a loose connection. Only problem is, I can't get the connection to be solid. I chose to not run the relay for the HID setup, so I had to reverse the connection so the polatity was correct. In doing so, I had such a hard time with reversing the connector that I had to actually call Steve from Xenon Depot where we got the HID kit and he talked me thru it. Should have been simple, but for the life of me, I couldn't get those two little clips to unseat, and finally, after a couple of hours and another call to Steve, and his sending me some close up pics, I finally got the connector to release, but I think I damaged it enough in the process that it will not hold tightly. Once I found that it was the problem, I even took a hose clamp and put around the connection, thinking it would hold it tight, and it seemed to work for a day or two, but its not working again. Guess I'll need to call Steve about getting a new connector for it.


2nd, is that damn sqeeling pig being chased for dinner:cus: I'm referring to the brake pads squealing so bad, its embarrassing to ryde, or at least to stop. I had another local call me with the same exact issue with these EBC pads from Ron. Ron has NEVER had bad products, and I don't think these are bad, but maybe there just not set correctly or something, I'm not sure. I had sent Ron a PM about them a couple months back when I first noticed it, and he quickly responded with a few different things to try, but I was never capable enough to give it shot with my arm/hand issue. But now, I'm just dealing with the pain and going on, doing as much as I can and stopping when it gets too much, and having a drink every now and then seems to help a bit.

But anyways, these two things are next on the priority list along with crafting Teds custom-built Throne for the back of the Sled :doorag: We're NOT there yet, but we ARE making progress :clap:

 

[Bytemi]

2nd, is that damn sqeeling pig being chased for dinner:cus: I'm referring to the brake pads squealing so bad, its embarrassing to ryde, or at least to stop. I had another local call me with the same exact issue with these EBC pads from Ron. Ron has NEVER had bad products, and I don't think these are bad, but maybe there just not set correctly or something, I'm not sure. I had sent Ron a PM about them a couple months back when I first noticed it, and he quickly responded with a few different things to try, but I was never capable enough to give it shot with my arm/hand issue. But now, I'm just dealing with the pain and going on, doing as much as I can and stopping when it gets too much, and having a drink every now and then seems to help a bit.

I am happy to hear you are making progress. :yes:

As for the squeeling pig, I know that my dealer told me it was common with the Spyder and suggested that I get her up to 60 MPH and then slam on my brakes, coming to a complete stop. This actually stops the squeeling for about a month and then I have to do it again. I usually try to find an empty parking lot, get up to speed and then some to a very loud stop. But hey if it works, it works.

 

[oldgoat]

I've always been a -ve person.

You have spent a lot of time spray painting various parts of your RT. I have done the same with many, many m/cs over the years. Looks great when you have finished but doesn't last worth a da*n. Chips very easily etc, etc.

Hope you have better luck than I have had. Though I can see the truck bed spray that Bytemi used as being more resiliant.

oldgoat

 

[KCPete]

Wow!
I love the way the handlebars came out!
Looking like something I'll be looking into AFTER Spyderfest. (Too much to do before then!)
Can't wait to see you guys for more than the few minutes we had last time. Give Teddy a belly rub for us!
P & J:thumbup:

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD

 

[lookerjdc]

glad you and Teddy are doing well and things are moving forward

look forward to hearing and seeing more

 

[rcdurango]

Good luck with those brakes. I'm having the same problem myself. Rode hard this past weekend to Indy and back trying everything I could but still there. If you find something please let me know. I'm thinking of tearing it back down and doing something else.

 

[Padre Spyder]

2nd, is that damn sqeeling pig being chased for dinner:cus: I'm referring to the brake pads squealing so bad, its embarrassing to ryde, or at least to stop. I had another local call me with the same exact issue with these EBC pads from Ron. Ron has NEVER had bad products, and I don't think these are bad, but maybe there just not set correctly or something, I'm not sure. I had sent Ron a PM about them a couple months back when I first noticed it, and he quickly responded with a few different things to try, but I was never capable enough to give it shot with my arm/hand issue. But now, I'm just dealing with the pain and going on, doing as much as I can and stopping when it gets too much, and having a drink every now and then seems to help :clap:

I am having the same problem with the pads from Ron which is disappointing since I really didn't need to replace my pads yet and only did it because they were supposed to solve the factory pad noise. Let me know if you get the problem solved. :banghead:

 

[CyncySpyder]

Progress, we got both headlights working last night & my face hurts again

 

[CyncySpyder]

Sorry to take so long to reply, just trying to get everything caught up

Hi Dave,Cooper is an 18 pound beagle/ pug mix. He is about 5 years old. We will be riding with him solo on the modded RSS ( hopefully an RT soon). We chose the pet palace in black to start. If he takes to riding we will have something custom built for him. Something a little wider so he can fully comfortably lay down.
We are focusing on short trip like to our local ice cream place, doggie daycare, training classes, or just short rides. Under 30 -45 minutes.
Cooper is crate trained and loves his crate. We have started teaching him to jump into the pet palace and rewarding him for sitting in it and staying. We then release him to let him know its ok to get out. Don't want him just jumping out of it on his own we want him to know he needs to wait for us to either lift him off or release him. We want him to see it as a good place. So far him seems to be good sitting in it, staying, and letting his head stick out the top. We also are working with doggles on walks - making him wear them so he gets used to. Any suggestions would be appreciated View attachment 65909

Not sure if you saw this thread I posted earlier, like in Oct of 2011, but the entire thread is devoted to the How To's for Teddy's ryde'n set-up, complete with some totally amature vid clips & pics of what we use & what works for us. Positive reinforcement is ALWAYS your best motivator. Make sure to get a harness that is MADE FOR AUTOMOTIVE TRAVEL, a regular harness is NOT good enough & NEVER NEVER NEVER tether a dog using a collar around the neck. But making sure they are tethered is very important. Also, having a convenient water bowl is always good, as dogs can dehydrate rather quickly when exposed to the constant wind that comes with ryding. And even tho you have a carrier, a light colored (white/yellow???) or maybe even a mesh fabric type of shirt/sweater/jacket is always a good idea to prevent sun & wind burn. As I think of more, I'll post it.

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/...-the-SpYder-Ryde-n-Pooch-This-is-how-we-do-it

 

[BajaRon]

I am having the same problem with the pads from Ron which is disappointing since I really didn't need to replace my pads yet and only did it because they were supposed to solve the factory pad noise. Let me know if you get the problem solved. :banghead:

I am very sorry that you're getting noise from your EBC pads.

I am aware that some have had noise issues with the EBC semi-sintered pads. I don't think it is wide spread but it is happening. There are a number of things that can cause pad noise and you can get it no matter what pad you use. Generally, these EBC pads are quiet, but it is not the universal experience.

I've had some customers swap out brand new BRP pads that were making noise for the EBC pads and get great results. I've had others swap out the EBC pads for the BRP pads and have great results. And I've had customers that have done these swaps and get no improvement at all.

CRC brake quiet applied to the back of the pads on install seems to give the greatest amount of relief regardless of which pad is used. Most pad noise is the product of high frequency vibration. That's all that sound is in the first place, a vibration of the air. If you can dampen that vibration then you can eliminate the noise.

Softer brake compounds tend to absorb vibration better than harder compounds. Softer compounds also tend to reduce stopping power and wear more quickly.

CRC Quiet helps to insulate the pad from vibration. The spray on quieting products attempt to soften the brake pad. It is only a surface treatment so any improvement is going to be temporary. As the pad wears off the thin layer of softer compound and returns to the harder compound underneath. These quieting sprays will tend to help your pads wear out a bit more quickly too.

Bottom line is, I don't think anyone has found a universal cure. It is interesting that no one has complained about the 2013 Brembo brakes making any noise. This leads me to believe that the older braking system is simply prone to making noise regardless of what pad you install. Think about it. How many motorcycles to you hear squealing? I've never owned one that did that.

For me, I want my Spyder to stop as quickly as possible but I want it to be quite as well. The organic pads don't stop as well and they wear more quickly. It seems people's experience varies with this pad noise issue.

 

[NancysToy]

Dirty or damp (or humid) brakes are often noisy no matter what pad is installed. Same goes if the pins/sleeves are worn or inadequately lubed. "Frozen" calipers can do it, too. Pads that have become glazed through improper break-in or frequent soft use will also make noise. Clean them, use them to dry them, and use them hard from a decent speed every once in a while, and you will have less noise. If necessary, inspect them, remove the pads, check the pins and sleeves and lube the o-rings with disk brake lubricant, and sand the pads before cleaning them with brake parts cleaner. CRC Disc Brake Quiet works, but it should not be necessary with pads with a resilient backing like the Gen 3 pads.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled program. Sorry for the hijack, Dave.

 

[kawakii]

Thanks Dave & Teddy. We have bought a automotive harness for Cooper since he is connected to a doggy seat belt in the car as well.

How did you go about getting Teddy used to the motor/ exhaust noise ? Cooper seems to be a little timid around it.

thanks for all your help in advance

Nicole, Jake, & Cooper

Not sure if you saw this thread I posted earlier, like in Oct of 2011, but the entire thread is devoted to the How To's for Teddy's ryde'n set-up, complete with some totally amature vid clips & pics of what we use & what works for us. Positive reinforcement is ALWAYS your best motivator. Make sure to get a harness that is MADE FOR AUTOMOTIVE TRAVEL, a regular harness is NOT good enough & NEVER NEVER NEVER tether a dog using a collar around the neck. But making sure they are tethered is very important. Also, having a convenient water bowl is always good, as dogs can dehydrate rather quickly when exposed to the constant wind that comes with ryding. And even tho you have a carrier, a light colored (white/yellow???) or maybe even a mesh fabric type of shirt/sweater/jacket is always a good idea to prevent sun & wind burn. As I think of more, I'll post it.

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/...-the-SpYder-Ryde-n-Pooch-This-is-how-we-do-it

 

[CyncySpyder]

Thanks Dave & Teddy. We have bought a automotive harness for Cooper since he is connected to a doggy seat belt in the car as well. How did you go about getting Teddy used to the motor/ exhaust noise ? Cooper seems to be a little timid around it. thanks for all your help in advance Nicole, Jake, & Cooper

That very well may be an issue for you going forward. You already know that dogs have Very Sensitive Hearing, especially compared to us non-canines. Remembering that your doing this on an RS gave me reservations for just this reason, tho I know of many that have done it, but just like us humans, every dog is different.

On the RT, being built for touring, we have a different OEM muffler than our RS brethren. Comparing the two is like comparing a sewing machine to a wood splitter (IMHO) & personally, I couldn't stand that dang sewing machine sound, but I dealt with it (until recently) because of the very fact that Teddy can't stand loud pipes, even when we're ryding with our RS buddies, you can see he doesn't like their louder pipes, less alone throw a TB pipe in the works, and he really gets upset.

With help and suggestions from this site, we were able to remove our stock airbox and replaced it with the KewlMetal Intake, and now we're both happy campers. The exhaust note got lower, no more sewing machine, but its not louder at all when at speed, just a throaty growl under hard accel :clap:

As for a remedy for you, my best suggestion is Positive Reinforcement and patience. I'd try starting the byke and letting it sit, like in the driveway (not inside a garage as the sound of the exhaust would be louder) and just ignore the byke altogether, and start playing with Cooper with one of his favorite toys, there in the yard or driveway getting closer and closer to the byke. Obviously, you don't want to leave your byke just sitting and running for long periods of time, and a dogs attention level is usually pretty short, so I'd only recommend doing this in 15 minute intervals, but maybe 2-3 times a day and the more he gets desensitized to the sound, the more times you can do it. Remember, treats and rewards for doing the action that you want him to do. So if he starts getting a little closer, give him a reward etc.......

I know this sounds like a lot, but the key is to desensitize him from the fear of the loud sounding pipe being a bad thing & that takes time. If you push too much too soon, you could find yourself fighting a loosing battle, and he could become very scared & never want to be near loud sounds at all.

I found this out the hard way with Teddy. We live on the river diagonally across from the Cincinnati Bengals & Reds stadiums, and when Teddy was a pup, we walked down to the riverbank to watch the FireWorks Show that they shoot off after the games on Friday nights. Not thinking (at the time) just how sensitive dogs hearing is, Teddy majorly FREAKED OUT!!! I mean, where we are, you not only SEE the FireWorks, you FEEL them as well, and it was just too much too soon. Now, everytime fireworks go off, or any really loud sound like a Harley backfiring, and the poor pup just about goes outta his skin. So much so, we were riding on RiverBoat Row one day last summer, directly across from the Reds BallPark when they hit a HomeRun & with every home run, they shoot off FireWorks. Even with him tethered to his carrier behind me, he freaked out so badly, that he somehow managed to get in my arms, shaking like a leaf, poor lil guy.

Moral of the story, take your time, have patience & give lots of positive reinforcement. Also, & Teddy won't use them himself, but they do actually make doggy ear muffs. I forget what their name brand is, but someone once suggested them to me for Teddy. They make them for dogs that fly in airplanes to help with the noise and ear popping & once a dog tries them (IN A PLANE) they won't want to be without them ever again, which I can totally understand. But here on the ground, its not THAT bad as compared to being in a plane, & I know Teddy wouldn't even give them a chance. We do well enough to keep his Doggles on while ryding, but he doesn't like anything actually over his head, no hats or helmets & no ear mufs for him. But you can probably google them, and if their not that expensive, couldn't hurt to try with Cooper.

Good luck & sorry to be so long winded. As I grow older (& hopefully a bit wiser) I'm starting to realize more and more, their just isn't any replacement for actual experience.

 

[CyncySpyder]

I have everything I need ....................... except the experience

Dirty or damp (or humid) brakes are often noisy no matter what pad is installed. Same goes if the pins/sleeves are worn or inadequately lubed. "Frozen" calipers can do it, too. Pads that have become glazed through improper break-in or frequent soft use will also make noise. Clean them, use them to dry them, and use them hard from a decent speed every once in a while, and you will have less noise. If necessary, inspect them, remove the pads, check the pins and sleeves and lube the o-rings with disk brake lubricant, and sand the pads before cleaning them with brake parts cleaner. CRC Disc Brake Quiet works, but it should not be necessary with pads with a resilient backing like the Gen 3 pads. We now return yoiu to your regularly scheduled program. Sorry for the hijack, Dave.

Scotty, NEVER BE SORRY my man, you know I value your opinion and friendship greatly. To think, where we'd be today if not for all your sage advice and wisdom. I've told many, that I wish I knew just half as much as you've probably forgotten over the years when it comes to Spyders, less alone mechanics in general :bowdown:

I was in the garage with Teddy close to midnight last night , Spyder Repair Manual in hand and all the products that you & Ron have suggested, but I just couldn't get up the nerve to dive into something, that if I made a mistake, could potentially kill me, or even worse, Teddy.

I have little fear tearing into the unknown when it comes to things that are cosmetic in nature, body panels etc..... but when it comes to something that your very life depends on, call it fear or maybe even wisdom, but it just stops me in my tracks. I mean, I've never worked on brakes in my life, & was lucky when Pete showed up at our door when he did, and he did so much for us when my arm was all but useless. He's the one that readily tore into the brakes with no problem at all. There's just something to be said for that saying, "There's no substitute for experience." And even tho I watched him do them, and I have the instructions laid out in front of me, something just stops me.

 

[currin20fan]

Dave & Teddy

Scotty, NEVER BE SORRY my man, you know I value your opinion and friendship greatly. To think, where we'd be today if not for all your sage advice and wisdom. I've told many, that I wish I knew just half as much as you've probably forgotten over the years when it comes to Spyders, less alone mechanics in general :bowdown:

I was in the garage with Teddy close to midnight last night , Spyder Repair Manual in hand and all the products that you & Ron have suggested, but I just couldn't get up the nerve to dive into something, that if I made a mistake, could potentially kill me, or even worse, Teddy.

I have little fear tearing into the unknown when it comes to things that are cosmetic in nature, body panels etc..... but when it comes to something that your very life depends on, call it fear or maybe even wisdom, but it just stops me in my tracks. I mean, I've never worked on brakes in my life, & was lucky when Pete showed up at our door when he did, and he did so much for us when my arm was all but useless. He's the one that readily tore into the brakes with no problem at all. There's just something to be said for that saying, "There's no substitute for experience." And even tho I watched him do them, and I have the instructions laid out in front of me, something just stops me.

Dave, if something "just stops" you, I do believe that is called common sense. Good Luck!

 

[cjackg]

Hi Dave,

Cooper is an 18 pound beagle/ pug mix. He is about 5 years old. We will be riding with him solo on the modded RSS ( hopefully an RT soon). We chose the pet palace in black to start. If he takes to riding we will have something custom built for him. Something a little wider so he can fully comfortably lay down.

We are focusing on short trip like to our local ice cream place, doggie daycare, training classes, or just short rides. Under 30 -45 minutes.

Cooper is crate trained and loves his crate. We have started teaching him to jump into the pet palace and rewarding him for sitting in it and staying. We then release him to let him know its ok to get out. Don't want him just jumping out of it on his own we want him to know he needs to wait for us to either lift him off or release him. We want him to see it as a good place. So far him seems to be good sitting in it, staying, and letting his head stick out the top. We also are working with doggles on walks - making him wear them so he gets used to.

Any suggestions would be appreciated

View attachment 65909

Beagles Love Spyders ! :roflblack: