Customers having RT's already?

[jwfranklin]

I noticed the one on Ebay at the dealer in MI, the biddings has been closed. Wonder if he sold it, or just closed it?

Did anyone on here buy it?

 

[Questions]

I wasn't going to bring this up but since the subject has been brought to light I will.

The same thing happened with the original spyders and PE owners. Many had deposits in, almost a full year in advance of delivery. Heck we had our deposits in late Aug. 07 & early Sept. 07 for PE models. Well before we received our ordered Premier Edition spyders, there were people walking into dealerships and buying a PE off the floor as part of inventory, or a dealer selling a demo that was also a PE. We already went through this once and I don't see that it is going to be any different this time around. Some dealers seem to get bigger deliveries of inventory and that is why they have the units to sell and some dealers just break the rules. All I can do is be happy for those that are getting their RT's and those that got their PE Spyder's early. I finally did get mine and I am a happy spyder owner.

Hi Deb- Brad read this and said "here we go again"... Just glad we aren't on the waiting list this time around. We had the EXACT same thing happen to us on the original Spyders , ordered in March and watched delivery after delivery , people buying them off the floor . Amazing they did not get this straightened out this time around. Carol

 

[vendit]

I'm not sure about how this dealer in Michigan can sell this new Rt, but I can tell you that I purchased a quad from them, and have rented snowmobiles from them on occasion, and they seem like a good dealer to work with. I believe he is a pretty good size Ski-Doo snowmobile dealer, so maybe he got some Spyders in ahead of other dealers due to his snowmobile orders?

 

[BeRight]

I just don't get it

I am sorry but I don't see what the beef is about. Those that pre-ordered limited edition PE's (for $1K down) will get them potentially within promised time frame.

Did BRP ever state in writing that the PE's would be delivered before any other Spyder's to dealer's? I don't think so.

My observation is that the ones being purchased now are not "PE's."

So what is the problem - you all certainly had the choice of not buying one of the "limited editions," and taking your chances of purchasing a non-PE from a showroom floor.

Some dealers chose to not only get a demo unit but also purchase other non-PE units at their own risk.

So stop the whining, grow up and stop acting like a bunch of teenagers - read the fine print of your contract.

And remember you get to be one of the proud 1500 to have a PE:clap: - which is what you wanted right?:dontknow:

 

[q-brrr]

:clap:

So stop the whining, grow up and stop acting like a bunch of teenagers - read the fine print of your contract.

And remember you get to be one of the proud 1500 to have a PE:clap: - which is what you wanted right?:dontknow:[/QUOTE]


:agree:+1

 

[musicarcade]

:clap:

So stop the whining, grow up and stop acting like a bunch of teenagers - read the fine print of your contract.

And remember you get to be one of the proud 1500 to have a PE:clap: - which is what you wanted right?:dontknow:

I don't think Evan cared if he had a stitched seat or not, I think he wanted an RT asap to see what mods he could create before the majority of the customers got theirs.

Otherwise, I tend to agree, especially since this is not the first time it happened. In a much smaller way, it's kind of like ording a special edition dvd on pre-sale and having it mailed to you. You don't end up getting it on the day it was released because they mailed it to you the day it was released. while you are waiting for it, people are buying it at the the store and enjoying while you wait.

 

[SpyderWolf]

Did anyone bother reading what was posted by Lamont?

Since September 1st, 2009 and until December 5th, 2009 a consumer may pre-order a new, 2010 Spyder RT-S SE5 Timeless Black Premiere Edition or 2010 Spyder RT-S SM5 Timeless Black Premiere Edition with a $1,000 deposit. The authorized Can-Am Spyder dealer then generates a "pre-sale certificate" with BRP. Note: The certificate number has nothing to do with the vehicle's VIN.

· By pre-ordering a RT-S SE5 Timeless Black Premiere Edition or a RT-S SM5 Timeless Black Premiere Edition, the consumer will receive the following and exclusive Premiere Edition benefits: An embroidered and numbered "Premiere Edition" seat and a 8GB iPod Nano engraved with "Spyder RT-S Premiere Edition" and pre-loaded with Spyder RT images and videos. This is the new iPod Nano with built-in video camera and FM Radio with "pause" feature. The iPod will be shipped with the Spyder RT-S Premiere Edition. We will be building 1,500 Spyder RT Premiere Editions.


· In November, we are scheduled to begin shipping each authorized Can-Am Spyder dealer a 2010 Spyder RT-S Timeless Black for demo purposes. This unit is to be used by the dealer for showroom and demo purposes only. This is NOT a Premiere Edition, the seat is not stitched and does not include an iPod. We learnt our lesson on this one in 2007!


· In December, we are scheduled to begin shipping the 1,500 Spyder RT-S Timeless Black Premiere Editions. The 1,500 Premiere Editions should be shipped from December through February.


· Pre-orders are coming in regularly and there are still units available within the 1,500 Premiere Edition build.

I think that sums it up pretty darn well. The Spyders that are sitting at dealerships right now are not the PE's that you all put a deposit down on.

 

[glynnk]

I think somebody's already mentioned this, but soft fabric bag liners with handles would be nice.

Glynnk

 

[jwfranklin]

Did anyone bother reading what was posted by Lamont?



I think that sums it up pretty darn well. The Spyders that are sitting at dealerships right now are not the PE's that you all put a deposit down on.

I read it. It also states that these units will be used by the dealer for showroom and demo purposes ONLY

 

[Questions]

Just a few details

:chat:

The dealer that sold the RT-S non PE ordered only 3 RT's from BRP for the entire year, and that included the demo they sold us.

The dealer had no other customers with deposits, no one to call and offer the bike too.

The dealer is mainly a ATV/Watercraft/Dirtbike dealer.

The Spyder was on the floor almost a week

BRP depends on its dealers to make them money.

A dealer selling a demo unit has no effect on the PE delivery dates.

The dealer sold the spyder at MSRP, not marked up, and was never used as a demo with 5 miles on it
from the factory.

I think anyone would go for this deal.

I just wanted to get a few more facts out there, Thanks:clap:

 

[Smylinacha]

Thanks for answering stuff :thumbup:. I hope you enjoy your Spyder!

I think some of us are surprised because we didn't think we'd see one driven off a lot by a customer for a few more months or so. I guess every dealer is different regarding what quota they get from BRP. I don't know much about how it all works with the PE's, non PE's,BRP's rules and stuff. I don't plan on buying an RT right now - can't afford one and I'm gonna try and enjoy what I've got for now but they are very cool looking and I love the tunes on it!

But anyway, enjoy your new toy and ryde safe!

:chat:

The dealer that sold the RT-S non PE ordered only 3 RT's from BRP for the entire year, and that included the demo they sold us.

The dealer had no other customers with deposits, no one to call and offer the bike too.

The dealer is mainly a ATV/Watercraft/Dirtbike dealer.

The Spyder was on the floor almost a week.

BRP depends on its dealers to make them money.

A dealer selling a demo unit has no effect on the PE delivery dates.

The dealer sold the spyder at MSRP, not marked up.

I am just wanted to get a few more facts out there, Thanks:clap:

 

[dltang]

Hi Deb- Brad read this and said "here we go again"... Just glad we aren't on the waiting list this time around. We had the EXACT same thing happen to us on the original Spyders , ordered in March and watched delivery after delivery , people buying them off the floor . Amazing they did not get this straightened out this time around. Carol

Yup, I stated that in an earlier post, maybe even a different thread. People walked in to showrooms and purchased PE spyders while we waited. Hey by the way, great to hear from you. Tell Brad we said hello. We are hoping to ride out your way next summer if financed and time prevail. We'll let you know.

 

[Firefly]

I am sorry but I don't see what the beef is about. Those that pre-ordered limited edition PE's (for $1K down) will get them potentially within promised time frame.

Did BRP ever state in writing that the PE's would be delivered before any other Spyder's to dealer's? I don't think so.

My observation is that the ones being purchased now are not "PE's."

So what is the problem - you all certainly had the choice of not buying one of the "limited editions," and taking your chances of purchasing a non-PE from a showroom floor.

Some dealers chose to not only get a demo unit but also purchase other non-PE units at their own risk.

So stop the whining, grow up and stop acting like a bunch of teenagers - read the fine print of your contract.

And remember you get to be one of the proud 1500 to have a PE:clap: - which is what you wanted right?:dontknow:

You do have a good point.

I recall when people were getting all bent out of shape about others getting their Spyder earlier than they did--- even though their delivery deadline had not yet come up. To my knowledge - most everyone got their Spyders by the guaranteed delivery date.

So as long as they are not selling off PE units--- I pretty much agree with you... but it still doesn't look quite right.

In the case of the new RT owner - I would be a bit concerned about a dealer who has never sold a Spyder being able to provide good service and support.

But :congrats: on getting it--- a really sharp bike!

 

[Questions]

New RT Not new Spyder deal

You do have a good point.

I recall when people were getting all bent out of shape about others getting their Spyder earlier than they did--- even though their delivery deadline had not yet come up. To my knowledge - most everyone got their Spyders by the guaranteed delivery date.

So as long as they are not selling off PE units--- I pretty much agree with you... but it still doesn't look quite right.

In the case of the new RT owner - I would be a bit concerned about a dealer who has never sold a Spyder being able to provide good service and support.

But :congrats: on getting it--- a really sharp bike!

The dealer sells spyders, and has a full service dept, They only ordered 3 RTs , as they don't think there will be much demand after the first few months, I think they are wrong. But not my problem.

 

[BeRight]

The dealer sells spyders, and has a full service dept, They only ordered 3 RTs , as they don't think there will be much demand after the first few months, I think they are wrong. But not my problem.

:congrats: on your new Spyder and thanks for joining this forum - best forum on the internet (IMHO). Please post often on your experience and impressions plus pictures with the panels off would be interesting as well - the good and bad (hopefully no bad).

I hope they sell well. World economy recovery timeing might have a direct impact. The more Spyder's on the road the better for everyone. I definitely see an RT in my future.

 

[aubierules]

In the case of the new RT owner - I would be a bit concerned about a dealer who has never sold a Spyder being able to provide good service and support.

everyone who put money down on an 08 took a chance on good service and support. kind of hard to service and support something you havent even received yet.

 

[Tom in NM]

I am sorry but I don't see what the beef is about. Those that pre-ordered limited edition PE's (for $1K down) will get them potentially within promised time frame.

:agree:

I don't think Evan cared if he had a stitched seat or not, I think he wanted an RT asap to see what mods he could create before the majority of the customers got theirs.

Well, Evan is a big boy and can more than take care of himself. As he said, he is talking to his dealer and will work on getting what he wants, for whatever he wants it for, when he wants it. I would not begin to guess at what that is or why it is important - that is his business.

I am always surprised by posts that are filled with indignation and righteous outrage when one thing like this happens. I do understand the anticipation that people who have ordered an RT must feel and in your shoes, I too would want to get it as soon as possible.

But, Jibara2733 was presented with an opportunity and was able to take advantage of it. As they have posted it, it was both fortunate and reasonable. I find it hard to understand how their good fortune devalues anyone else's purchase.

As far as the "rogue" Michigan dealer, who knows? It could be a very similar situation - or it could be a scam, even if they were a dealer and no matter what they said. Who knows if it "really happened"? It was eBay, for heaven's sake.

BRP was clear and consistent on what they were doing. They were manufacturing a certain number of 'limited edition' Spyders with specific qualities for pre-order. They also were manufacturing RTs to get to their dealerships as sales tools - based on agreements and contracts with the dealership network. You may feel this is not right or that it is a flawed business model or decision, but it was not your or my decision to make. No matter how hard I look at this whole issue, I cannot see any duplicity on BRPs part.

If being first - or being able to select the number of your RT is important, like Evan, you need to get with your dealer. See if you can be first in line or if they are getting a couple, if you can pick one over the other - whatever is important to you. If the dealer does not know, they can hardly be held accountable for meeting your private expectations. Even then, life being life, I would expect mistakes to be made.

As a person who is sitting on the sidelines - all this tempest and fury says more about you than BRP.

Tom

 

[musicarcade]

:agree:

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If being first - or being able to select the number of your RT is important, like Evan, you need to get with your dealer. See if you can be first in line or if they are getting a couple, if you can pick one over the other - whatever is important to you. If the dealer does not know, they can hardly be held accountable for meeting your private expectations. Even then, life being life, I would expect mistakes to be made.

As a person who is sitting on the sidelines - all this tempest and fury says more about you than BRP.

Tom

I assume you are referring to "you" in the general term and not me in particular, as I don't recall posting any outrage in the situation. I am on the sidelines too. I'm not interested in an RT and I know Evan is a big boy and can take care of himself. All I was pointing out was Evan's original post. I assumed that he thought that pre-ording was the quickest way to get an RT.

The only thing I'm upset about right now is that my :spyder: is sitting in a shop and they can't figure out what is wrong with it. Carlo from BRP called me today and stated that my service tech had talked to the BRP tech. I'm waiting to hear from my tech as he was at lunch when I called.

Hopefully it will get taken care of soon so I can be ryding again. If all goes well & I get all the mods I need I am hoping to ryde my Spyder to Phx from SC and back in 2011. I would love to take a ryde in NM if you're still there and up for it!

 

[gazey]

If this is the sort of thing you guys have got to worry about I guess things must be pretty good :thumbup:.

 

[garganos]

The demos are NOT PE models. I just got my demo yesterday and prepped it today. I assure everyone they are not PEs. As far as the dealer in MI. I looked at the ad no where did it say it was a PE model. If it is a PE model it could be that the dealer did have a deposit on it and the customer cancelled after it came in. At that point you could either move it to the next person in line, or if no one else has a deposit on it sell it in store. If it's not a PE and the dealer demo then it is not suppose to be sold. We are getting these models for demo and display purposes. BRP does not want us to sell them for 90 days or 180 days. If the dealer is selling his demo then he is doing something out of BRP's control. Getting upset at BRP would be like getting upset at GM if your dealer messed up on financing and charged you more than what you agreed upon. Can GM (or BRP) step in, legally I would think not. They can only request and remember next time the dealer needs or wants something. Just my 2 cents.