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Cost of Oil Change

NEW OILS ARE MUCH BETTER

You are are wasting your money there is no way our new oils will break down in less than 10-15,000 miles with the light service these engines have.

The dealers have us programmed us like idiots to waste good oil. With the crappy oil we had 10 years ago we changed oil at 10k miles. Oil has improved and we're doing a oil change at 600 miles then 3000 miles WTF

Use s your heads guys
Folks here do use their heads ..... Tests at Independent Labs show that even the best FULL SYNTHETIC Oils are breaking down at about 5000 miles :banghead::banghead::banghead: ....... Oils used for ENGINE LUBRICATION ONLY will last much, much longer than Oils used to also lubricate the TRANSMISSION .....Like they do in our Spyders .....this is FACT , not my opinion ...... Mike :thumbup:
 
Folks here do use their heads ..... Tests at Independent Labs show that even the best FULL SYNTHETIC Oils are breaking down at about 5000 miles :banghead::banghead::banghead: ....... Oils used for ENGINE LUBRICATION ONLY will last much, much longer than Oils used to also lubricate the TRANSMISSION .....Like they do in our Spyders .....this is FACT , not my opinion ...... Mike :thumbup:

The problem is; "It's All fake news" the independent labs are about as crooked and fake as our National News agencies. Those pencil heads in the labs are all paid to let the public know exactly what will help line the pockets of the Gas & Oil companies. Don't you feel paying $4-5 a gallon for gas for years pretty much prove they are all thieves.

Years ago the engine tolerances and the quality of oil were poor compared to the standards of today and we went 10-12 K miles between changes. The new engines are built far more precise and the oils are 10 fold better, so it makes no sense and is a waste of money and oil changing your oil in less than 10,000 miles.

If you want to waste money you can Paypal me!

Regards - Mike
 
Lets just say there are many that do not believe in your conspiracy theories. We have seen the thinning of the oil from extreme shear stress causing viscosity breakdown. Yes you need a lab to get the actual numbers but its plain to see in the oil itself after 5k miles. You do not need a lab to SEE it.

Even great oils do not last long in combined engine / trans sumps.

Modern synthetic oils do last longer. Older design conventional lubricants cant make it nearly as far in these bikes.
 
My red RT-S is somewhere in the US, on the way to Texas. I am wondering what different dealers charge for an oil change (includeing all gaskets, etc) I am sure labor rates vary throughout the country, but just trying to get an idea. I am unable to get down on my knees and back without considerable trouble. It is hell getting old.

$150 from my dealer for "annual service". Oil change and check of all of the things listed in the owners manual. This is a 2014 RT. I understand units with the 998 engine may cost more for oil changes.
 
Umm now I'm scared...

The salesman that sold me my brand new 2016 RTS said the oil change was at 3K miles. I just read here about a 600 mile oil change? OK OK I did not read the manual on this, just *assumed* the guy knew what he was talking about :lecturef_smilie: Now I am going out to get the manual!!

I do though have all the stuff - BahaRon kit, full synthetic oil with correct ratings, magnetic plug, 36mm socket, high quality big torx bits, etc. Is there something that the dealer does that I should re-consider paying $300 for them to do the first oil change? Very comfortable doing it myself.

I am almost at the 2000 mile mark, was going to change oil this week. Local dealer does not strike me as doing a lot of extra checks. Took then 5 hours to track down a loose plug going to the air bag pump (switch did not work when I picked up the bike). Yay or nay?


Thanks,
Steve
 
This cant be right....thats almost how much my stealer charged for an oil change...note this is amazon Canada
 

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This cant be right....thats almost how much my stealer charged for an oil change...note this is amazon Canada

I can do you a lot better with an an oil change kit. And this is with Amsoil. A true fully synthetic lubricant. Much superior to the BRP product. Typically my kit runs around $80.00 each if you purchase enough for 2 oil services. If you're going to use it anyway, it's a savings over purchasing them 1 at a time. This is for US customers. It's higher in Canada, as most things are. But not nearly this high.

I am more than happy to give you a price quote. Then, at least you'll have an option to compare to.
 
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Capt. Ron, are you the gent that helped me at the Aero meet a few years ago at Townsend Tn? I had the black/ silver 750 Honda. I had laid her down at the parking lot , Newfound Gap. Didn’t ride for a few. My ride now, RTL,SE6 2015. I purchased (traded) a 2011 in for the RT last Nov. 21. The dealer at Hendersonville, NC ( where traded) gets$350 for o/c. I do it myself! Hope you well & happy. I’m now 87, still riding. D-Daddy
At present waiting on an apt. At Greenville, Tn. BLS failure, blows fuses.
 
Capt. Ron, are you the gent that helped me at the Aero meet a few years ago at Townsend Tn? I had the black/ silver 750 Honda. I had laid her down at the parking lot , Newfound Gap. Didn’t ride for a few. My ride now, RTL,SE6 2015. I purchased (traded) a 2011 in for the RT last Nov. 21. The dealer at Hendersonville, NC ( where traded) gets$350 for o/c. I do it myself! Hope you well & happy. I’m now 87, still riding. D-Daddy
At present waiting on an apt. At Greenville, Tn. BLS failure, blows fuses.

I am afraid I am not the one who helped you in Townsend, TN. Sorry.

I do not believe there is a Greenville, TN. There is a Greeneville, TN. That is where I live. If you get the chance, stop by the shop. Love to meet you.

301 S. Main St.
Greeneville, TN 37743

Glad to hear you're doing so well. Have a Great Weekend!
 
The last time he was here was in 2021. He lists himself as 89, so who knows? Why don't you send him a PM, see if he responds?
 
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Anybody know what happened to Mr White the original poster?

Apparently he still exists. A Google search didn't come up with any obituaries or death notices for him. Other than that I didn't find any other current info. He hasn't touched his FB page for two years and there is really nothing on it about him.
 
I win! $420 at my local dealer for an oil change. ($660 for an alignment) Needless to say, I'll be doing my own oil changes in the future.
 
We just paid $765 for both of our 2020 RT's, it was for the 3k mile service and took aprox 2.5 or so each. Life Styles Honda in Mount Vernon, WA. They we very nice and it was convenient to be able get'r done on a Saturday.
 
We just paid $765 for both of our 2020 RT's, it was for the 3k mile service and took aprox 2.5 or so each. Life Styles Honda in Mount Vernon, WA. They we very nice and it was convenient to be able get'r done on a Saturday.

It seems that I was in the wrong side of the repair business. When I had my repair shop, I would service a couple of 18 wheelers for less than that including oil and all of the filters (except the air filter). Most of them took at least 44 qts of oil and 3 - 4 filters each.

I should have worked on motorcycles, I guess.
 
It seems that I was in the wrong side of the repair business. When I had my repair shop, I would service a couple of 18 wheelers for less than that including oil and all of the filters (except the air filter). Most of them took at least 44 qts of oil and 3 - 4 filters each.

I should have worked on motorcycles, I guess.

Tell me about it, as a small engine mechanic 30 plus years ago I was told "there ain't no money in turnin' wrenches".. Should have looked at what I was wrenching on!
 
Ya nailed it. Some "tech" whose favorite tool is not an inch pound wrench but a rattle gun aint getting anywhere my rides. :gaah:

Im retired and do sort a few other Blokes rides from time to time. I dont charge out my workshop time for money. However Single Malt Whiskey or Speights Gold Medal Draft Beer seems to be a popular currency. Any parts required are fitted at cost.
 
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