Changing Oil

[illuzion]

On cars people generally change their oil after 5,000 miles on new cars. How often should I change the oil on the spyder? I'm sure this question was asked before. Sorry for the newbie question.

 

[boborgera]

On cars people generally change their oil after 5,000 miles on new cars. How often should I change the oil on the spyder? I'm sure this question was asked before. Sorry for the newbie question.

In order to maintain your warranty Brp states 3 thousand miles.[with filter]
After the warranty 4 or 5 thousand won't hurt.

 

[angel]

We do all our cars and bikes at 3000. Like it cleanhyea:

 

[BajaRon]

Oh My! A real can of worms here!

If you use a good, full synthetic, Group IV, Polyalphaolefins (PAO) based oil you can easily go 7k between oil changes and still have better protection than with lesser oils changed at 3k intervals.

Many of the lower priced 'Synthetic' oils use Group III base (BRP oil for example). The Blends are good at 3k ~ 4k intervals and the 'Full Synthetic' is good to 5k.

But to keep the warranty people happy you may want to stick with 3k intervals, though manufacturer's like Amsoil have been approved for extended distance while maintaining the warranty. Not sure about BRP on this.

 

[NancysToy]

First oil change is at 600 miles, then 3,000, then every 3K thereafter. Your manual shows the recommended maintenance schedule, including oil changes.

 

[Firefly]

Why risk going over 3,000 miles between changes just to save a buck? I go over a bit sometimes--- but try to hit it every 3,000.

You car doesn't run at 7,000 rpms while cruising.

 

[NancysToy]

Why risk going over 3,000 miles between changes just to save a buck? I go over a bit sometimes--- but try to hit it every 3,000.

You car doesn't run at 7,000 rpms while cruising.

Nor does it have a wet clutch or a transmission that shares the same oil. :agree:

 

[sinkhole]

oil change...

I changed mine today (3450 miles since last change), and it was black as coal. Scotty's right... with all of the work the oil has to do in these engines, around 3k between changes seems like a good standard. :agree:

 

[MikeinGA]

On cars people generally change their oil after 5,000 miles on new cars. How often should I change the oil on the spyder? I'm sure this question was asked before. Sorry for the newbie question.

Good question! The oil is used not only for the motor, but also for the transmission. So 3,000 miles is the correct interval to change the oil. I had mine first oil change at 630 miles and next at 3,630 miles.

Mike

 

[JCSMOKE]

warranty and self oil change

How would you prove you did the oil change at the recommended interval if you chang the oil yourself?

 

[Rayelljay]

Just a question for us old school folks........

We all know that looking at what comes out can give good info as to what is happening inside.
I know that when my dad used to tear into his, he used to feel the oil between his teeth for little fragments. Through my years with him we had a 250 Rudge, 2 JAP powered speedway racers (cinders), an AJS 7R, my KTT Velo and my Manx. My Mum used to go bonkers when we heated cylinder heads in "her" oven for new valve guides....good memories.
My tech seems knowledgeable and he seems to have no problem with my asking questions over his shoulder. My first service went a little over 600 and I intend to keep the figures easy and go in thurs or friday for my 3K.
Should I mention to check the plugs....didn't I read that BRP changed the spec. somewhere....?
I read of you folk doing your own oil changes and changing to Amsoil....does an owner done oil change contravene any BRP warranty requirements. I have been working on bikes for years and I'd hate to pay someone to have my fun.

 

[boborgera]

How would you prove you did the oil change at the recommended interval if you chang the oil yourself?

Keep records, and save all receipts. :thumbup:

 

[NancysToy]

Keep records, and save all receipts. :thumbup:

:agree: I also take a dated picture of the odometer reading and attach it to the receipts and to a signed and dated, maintenance checklist (just copy the maintenance schedule in your manual). Remember that there is more to each maintenance interval than a mere oil and filter change. Recording information like the tire pressures and belt tension goes a long way toward supporting your case.

 

[Questions]

These days oil is better and gas burns cleaner. 5000 miles shouldn't be a problem. Bro oil is a blend and its not the best or anywhere close. Some cars now the book says 8000 miles between oil changes, like my wifes 2011 dodge. Oils don't break down like they use to. It's not the 80s and 90s anymore. I don't want to come off like a ahole but studies have been proven time and time again.

 

[WackyDan]

Why risk going over 3,000 miles between changes just to save a buck? I go over a bit sometimes--- but try to hit it every 3,000.

You car doesn't run at 7,000 rpms while cruising.

And your car doesn't have a wet clutch.

 

[WackyDan]

These days oil is better and gas burns cleaner. 5000 miles shouldn't be a problem. Bro oil is a blend and its not the best or anywhere close. Some cars now the book says 8000 miles between oil changes, like my wifes 2011 dodge. Oils don't break down like they use to. It's not the 80s and 90s anymore. I don't want to come off like a ahole but studies have been proven time and time again.

I agree. I've gone longer on our car.. newer design engine with tighter tolerances and better conventional oil. I shoot for 5k. Pending planned travel, sometimes I change it before that time.

The Spyder I have run about 4 to 4.5k as generally I'm in the middle of a trip when I come due... or ready to start a long trip within range of a change. I don't get too paranoid about changing the oil at an exact figure, but just as long as I'm in the ball park.

 

[NancysToy]

And your car doesn't have a wet clutch.

.....and the transmission isn't lubricated with the engine oil.

 

[pro10is]

Don't make the mistake of comparing auto oil change intervals with motorcycles. Many motorcycles including the Spyder have a wet clutch which increases the rate of oil shearing. Large molecules which control viscosity are permanently sheared over time causing the oil to lose the required viscosity needed to protect engine components.

Extending oil change intervals is false economy. Stick to 3,000 miles for the Spyder.

 

[Bad Dog6]

Viscosity Shear Stability
An oils viscosity can be affected through normal use. Mechanical activity creates shearing forces that can cause an oil to thin out, reducing its load carying ability. Engines operating at high RPM’s and those that share a common oil sump with the transmission are particularly subject to high shear rates. Gear sets found in the transmissions are the leading cause of shear-induced viscosity loss in motorcycle applications.


Motorcycle drain intervals should be performedat the manufacturers specified oil drain interval unless you are using one of the premium quality synthetic motorcycle oils on the market, which specifically states that it can be used for twice as long as manufacturers recommendations.


If you are using AMSOIL 10W-40 Motorcycle Oil, product code MCF , the Service Life is twice the OEM recommended oil drain interval. Unless you are using an AMSOIL Nano Fiber Motorcycle Oil Filter, (AMSOIL does not currently make one for the Spyder .) you should change your oil filter at your OEM recommended change interval.


Here is a link to a “White Paper on Motorcycle Oils” for you to look at, download, that has all the leading Synthetic Motorcycle Oils and how they perform using ASTM testing standards. Here is the link. http://www.damnbestoil.com/lit/B_pdf/g2156.pdf

 

[Tiny1]

Viscosity Shear Stability
Here is a link to a “White Paper on Motorcycle Oils” for you to look at, download, that has all the leading Synthetic Motorcycle Oils and how they perform using ASTM testing standards. Here is the link. http://www.damnbestoil.com/lit/B_pdf/g2156.pdf

Interesting read :thumbup: