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CAT DELETE
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happyspyder2039
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Although Illegal. People do it and aslong as you live where emissions testing is not done its probably not an issue. But:dontknow:I just bought an F3-S, and i'd like to ask all you SL people a question....
IF YOU REMOVE THE CATALYTIC CONVERTER (BRP = pre-muffler), has you dealer informed you that it will violate the warranty....?????opcorn:
curious.....
Dan P
Easley, SC
SPYD3R
happyspyder2039
Active member
My mistake! I didn't know that
Gray Ghost
New member
There are different warranties on the bike. One is for the emissions system, and if you modify the emissions system, which includes the cat, then the warranty on that is usually considered void.
Highwayman2013
New member
I hear of some dealers that will install the cat delete pipe.
robmorg
New member
Dan,I just bought an F3-S, and i'd like to ask all you SL people a question....
IF YOU REMOVE THE CATALYTIC CONVERTER (BRP = pre-muffler), has you dealer informed you that it will violate the warranty....?????
curious.....
Dan P
Easley, SC
SPYD3R
My understanding of vehicle warranty law, at least in the US, is that a manufacturer cannot deny warranty due to an alteration unless they can ascertain that the defect they are denying warranty for happened as a result of the alteration. Obviously the manufacturer has some latitude in their interpretation of that situation, but at least they may have to defend their denial if challenged legally. The fact that the modification may be illegal in certain states is a separate issue. I've had the cat removed on my 2013 RT for safety reasons relating to the issues that BRP is now dealing with with the NHTSA. So they would be hard pressed to deny my entire warranty as a result of that modification; and in fact, they continue to provide me with warranty service.
I'm curious though, to know why you would consider removing the cat on an F3? I wouldn't think there would be much to be gained there in either the reduction of heat or the slight gain in HP.
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Lamonster
SpyderLovers Founder
Because the sound is great! :doorag:
bullant12
New member
Nope. And they don't need to say anything about it. Closest thing they are allowed to say is to look it up.
So, from what you just have wrote; if the brakes on the Spyder go out, the warranty is void because I removed the "cat"...
Read below.
Correct. This is known as the Magnuson-Moss act. The dealer has to contact the manufacturer of ANY warranty work so if they find that the malfunctioning item went wrong because of unauthorized workmanship, then the manufacturer has the right to void the warranty and tell the dealer to charge the customer. Otherwise, it is up to the dealer to determine if the damage was caused by unauthorized parts and work. This is why your warranty won't be denied as long as the root cause of the issue was not caused by any alterations.
:agree: with Lamont. I have compared the sound before and after on the F3 and it sounds more aggressive and you will be heard on the road!:doorag:
robmorg
New member
Oh. Well yeah, there IS that. My 2013 RT sounds a bit deeper and throatier after the cat bypass.
That was fourth on my list of reasons for installing the cat bypass on my 2013 RTL. The first three were...
- There is no longer a 1200 degree "furnace" sitting under my fuel tank in an enclosed space.
- There is now less heat to cook my legs and butt in the summertime.
- There is now a bit more low end torque - which is nice on the RT
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SPYD3R
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kubie
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where to get one
go to pitbull powersports on the web and get their phone # and call them to order one I don't
believe they have it on the sight..... you have to call
Where can I get a CAT delete I've looked and am not sure of where to buy one.
go to pitbull powersports on the web and get their phone # and call them to order one I don't
believe they have it on the sight..... you have to call
Bob Denman
New member
Deleting Cats?
This entire subject about "Deleting Cats", has my friend worried...
This entire subject about "Deleting Cats", has my friend worried...
Gray Ghost
New member
You missed this part of my post "There are different warranties on the bike. One is for the emissions system,..." There is a separate warranty on emission systems. And if you remove or modify the emission system, then the warranty on the emission system is no longer valid. So if your brakes are part of that, I guess your comment would be true.
Check http://transportpolicy.net/index.php?title=US:_Motorcycles:_Emissions.
zuni
Member
Only had ours a few days before making the change and very happy I did. The weight savings and potential heat reduction are all secondary to the sound!
CJ JAX
bullant12
New member
Agree to disagree. If there are issues with the exhaust and you did modify it, then yes, that would void the emission's warranty ONLY. Lots of people think that if you do this it automatically voids the whole warranty without even having the opportunity for the dealer to make the call.
MikeinGA
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BINGO! Your going to cause climate change, it's the most dangers think ever. Now the end is near! :roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:
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