Can Am Leaning Trike Patent

[Bob Denman]

... hyea: Perfectly happy with the current platform... :2thumbs:

 

[boborgera]

If i was 25 years younger maybe, But at this stage of the game i don't need the work out.
I like to ride bolt upright in the turns, Leaning is for when i ride my 6n, And in reality you don't lean two wheelers you drop them in turns [counter steer]

 

[SXSMachine]

Big deal about the date guys. Its not a dead issue its a GROWING one. I think as the world leading forum we also carry a weight of responsibility to be the leaders of driving the models and the technology in them.

We have ever increasing technology a world full of prototypes of these torpedo shape "car" trykes and well we can lead it and be part of it a the Spyder community.

Besides as I said in my post enabled spyder ryders have a lot to gain from zero lateral forces so I'm not only all for them I think they are a neccesity that we move on from Piaggio and get the technology onto bigger and better trykes and quadracycles.

Likewise I would support a Can Am Syder quadracycle model. Not just because it would offer me more benefits but also because it would further the technology needed for the world wide trends towards more of these types of vehicles.

So thats my arguement, I could use the technology I could use more than that technology and build a "venemous" spyder and I would love to drive the technology further.

I love classics as much as I love futurist technologies and designs but to me all up as a whole I see the current Spyder as an incomplete technology because they have re-introduced car like lateral forces to someone who isn't belted in position to take them and the lack of a meas to overcome them.

I do think that Can Am took out their design as a just i case. I have also heard that its hard to get these tryke conversions as an aftermarket done in the states I don't know about Europe so much as far as I know you can take the spyder put 4 wheels on it and go for it. I know there are technology issues about balance and so on, well the logic, the hardware and siftware is all available and at not great cost to have these solutions. So I don't accept that as an arguement against.

I have applied for a permit with my own State authority here to put a tilt/camberstering system in place for a 3 wheeler and then for permission to add a 4th wheel. Technically I could add a 4th wheel and a "pretend" fold up side saddle seat and call it a side car. Either that or have the 4th wheel system removeable and ride track days to prove the concept and enjoy it to its full potential.

I have nothing against people enjoying what they have. I do think its exciting and a great next step to evolve the machine, products evolve and progress all the time and how many times do you get asked to voice an opinion on it? So have a say, be civil and have fun with it don't be offended. :2thumbs:

 

[ABQ_Spyderman]

Here is a picture of the Harley Trike and a link to the page that talks about it. Pretty neat.



http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2011/08/03/harley-davidson-penster-tilting-reverse-trike/

 

[MikeinGA]

Pertaining to HD - they have become nothing more than a clothing retailer that happens to sell motorcycles. They make more from just selling Chinese made t shirts than bikes- and this doesn't count all the other Chinese made trinkets they hawk.

HD won't ever bring a reverse trike to market. BRP is the current expert in this technology and things will only get better IMO.

I have a HD cap that was made in the USA. That's before HD went Chinese.

Mike

 

[SXSMachine]

Here is a picture of the Harley Trike and a link to the page that talks about it. Pretty neat.

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http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2011/08/03/harley-davidson-penster-tilting-reverse-trike/

There was another post on kneeslider yesterday about an aftermarket company that I had seen the design for before but I think they were releasing their kits now.

Its from Too Kool cycles and its just featured on the front page of kneeslider right now, the Can Am even gets a mention.

http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2012/02/09/trt-the-tilting-reverse-trike-harley-conversion-from-too-kool-cycles/

 

[Illinois Boy]

No offense... but the Too Cool trike is butt-ugly.

 

[hrbeta]

No offense... but the Too Cool trike is butt-ugly.

I agree!

 

[SXSMachine]

No offense... but the Too Cool trike is butt-ugly.

Not offended at all, just add me to the list! :2thumbs:

I think the aftermarket kits for usually wheel bikes are almost universally butt ugly, I have only seen a couple I would possibly consider nice aesthetically. Butt (pun) I had been tld getting aftermarket leanin front ends on bikes in the US was difficult where-as I had the impression they were dead easy to do?? Anyone know who reads this post?

But there already being roon in the Spyder for the components for a lean you wouldn't even know until the guy behind thought your bike was breaking apart as younded a fast sweeper. Love to catch out a few people like that! :roflblack:

 

[Bob Denman]

"Each to their own notion", said the old woman as she kissed the cow...

 

[pro10is]

...I see the current Spyder as an incomplete technology because they have re-introduced car like lateral forces to someone who isn't belted in position to take them and the lack of a means to overcome them.

I hear what you're saying and I might be inclined to agree with you if I didn't love the feel of the ride of the Spyder's current configuration. For some reason I find the lateral forces more thrilling and enjoyable than the more elegant but sedate leaning of a motorcycle. Obviously just a personal preference, but for me a major factor of why I prefer a Spyder over a motorcycle. If BRP develops a leaning Spyder I would have to reevaluate the whole riding experience.

To me the Spyder is a hybrid between a a motorcycle and a sports car, providing you great features of both. It effectively pairs the motorcycle like thrill of riding in the open air with the wonderfully visceral experience of driving a glued to the pavement roadster. A very unique and satisfying combination. If I wanted just the feel of a motorcycle I would simply ride a motorcycle. I much prefer the thrilling, highly enjoyable ride of the Spyder which no other vehicle offers. Those who want to make it more like a motorcycle are missing the point I think, and would ultimately transform it into something else. To me it's perfect just the way it is.

 

[SteveMac]

I hear what you're saying and I might be inclined to agree with you if I didn't love the feel of the ride of the Spyder's current configuration. For some reason I find the lateral forces more thrilling and enjoyable than the more elegant but sedate leaning of a motorcycle. Obviously just a personal preference, but for me a major factor of why I prefer a Spyder over a motorcycle. If BRP develops a leaning Spyder I would have to reevaluate the whole riding experience.

To me the Spyder is a hybrid between a a motorcycle and a sports car, providing you great features of both. It effectively pairs the motorcycle like thrill of riding in the open air with the wonderfully visceral experience of driving a glued to the pavement roadster. A very unique and satisfying combination. If I wanted just the feel of a motorcycle I would simply ride a motorcycle. I much prefer the thrilling, highly enjoyable ride of the Spyder which no other vehicle offers. Those who want to make it more like a motorcycle are missing the point I think, and would ultimately transform it into something else. To me it's perfect just the way it is.

+1. :agree:

 

[SXSMachine]

I hear what you're saying and I might be inclined to agree with you if I didn't love the feel of the ride of the Spyder's current configuration. For some reason I find the lateral forces more thrilling and enjoyable than the more elegant but sedate leaning of a motorcycle. Obviously just a personal preference, but for me a major factor of why I prefer a Spyder over a motorcycle. If BRP develops a leaning Spyder I would have to reevaluate the whole riding experience.

To me the Spyder is a hybrid between a a motorcycle and a sports car, providing you great features of both. It effectively pairs the motorcycle like thrill of riding in the open air with the wonderfully visceral experience of driving a glued to the pavement roadster. A very unique and satisfying combination. If I wanted just the feel of a motorcycle I would simply ride a motorcycle. I much prefer the thrilling, highly enjoyable ride of the Spyder which no other vehicle offers. Those who want to make it more like a motorcycle are missing the point I think, and would ultimately transform it into something else. To me it's perfect just the way it is.

Whatever rings your bell and wouldn't it be a boring old world if we all loved the same thing, we'd never grow, learn or experience anything different, so thats all good.

If I was you I would be push for 4 wheels and the GG quadcycles for a ride or two, they are a bit of a maniac or the Laurent or I have eve seen on the net some guys who built a quad frame around a Subaru imprezza engine, an auto version and I dont think in their video on a twisty section they even got out of second.

But I'm certainly not saying that that people shouldn't have what they want but bike innovation is just about every model were always tinkering with our toys!

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

LEANER

PRO10IS YOU ROCK....MIKE.....:thumbup:

 

[SXSMachine]

Can Am Tilt steer video

Hey peeps, just found a copy of a tilt/camber steer system for the Can Am , very oversimplified but its a demo none the less stripped back of all the technology after the mechanics. I wouldn't suggest this as even prototyped technology yet think it was just a class project. Never the less I remain very excited by the possiblity of a cambersteer Spyder.

 

[joet82]

Blasphemy! Why ruin something that is perfect and proven?

As for the lateral forces, the Spyder was never ment to be ridden like a car....you ride it like a quad or a snowmobile where you lean or slide your butt into the corners to counter the lateral G's. I can take a 45mph rated hwy interchange at 90mph without a worry.

 

[WaltH]

Harley-Davidson has had a patent for a leaning trike for at least the past ten years. Still, you don't see any on the streets. I expect we will find BRP doing the same thing.

 

[dave01]

Blasphemy! Why ruin something that is perfect and proven?.

Far from perfect, but ok for now.

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[SXSMachine]

I don't think the current configuration is "perfect" when you can lift the inside wheel in a turn but I am more than happy to accept that people like it the way it is and enjoy it the way it is,. It does dtrike me as odd though, and i agree wholeheartedly it is meant to be ridden like a quad, that on the basis or riding it like a quad people dont have more to say oin actually having quad geometry available, it would certainly look more like a Spider!.

I think some people dont go far back enough in the thread though to know I want this model for the reasons of being an enabled Spyder rider, that it is a special model to me, but I just also happen to think that its a better idea as well and in an X configuration. :thumbup:

It makes sense when 1/3rd of the world and 2/5ths of the Potential global market for Spyders can ride a X configuration.

 

[GregP]

Hey Guys & Gals...

Check these videos out. www.tiltingmotorwerks.com They kind of put a face to the still shots seen earlier in this thread. It doesn't light my fire, I'm really partial to my :spyder2: ride, but still interesting.

Regards....
GregP