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Can Am Leaning Trike Patent

GregP said:
Hey Guys & Gals...

Check these videos out. www.tiltingmotorwerks.com They kind of put a face to the still shots seen earlier in this thread. It doesn't light my fire, I'm really partial to my :spyder2: ride, but still interesting.

Regards....
GregP
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I gotta agree atm there is nothing I have seen in production that makes for a great system to convert any 2 wheel bike into a Y tryke. They all end up with their fronts way out there, but b/c the Spyder is built like that only minor changes are required and you can basically hold the same body shape so not destroy the cosmetics to complete the transformation.

I think we have seen most of my leaning Tryke stuff but here are some other tilting vehicle video's and sites if people are interested.

The Wesll is one of the best concepts to pre-production vehicles I have seen so far.
http://www.wesllcorp.com

http://www.naro.co.uk/index2.htm

Although not leaning a boutique spinoff of a leading manufacturer.
http://www.eatv.de/com/modelle/modelle.php

Ride safe this weekend my amigos!
 
It doesn't lean but if you put some flat/fat tyres on it I think it woiuld be closer to a road going concern than a quad. If it did tilt in this configuration gee it would be very close the the Wesll concept and could work fabulously on road and off-road.

bombardier-BRD-exit-concept.jpg brp_exit_wheelie.jpg
 
SC_DOC said:
Actually Harley built a prototype called the Penster that is in the Harley Museum.


;)
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And that's not out on the streets, now is it? ;)

I'd love to have a leaning Spyder-- as another model. NOT one that replaces the current design, which I also enjoy.
 
Eventually (I think!), somebody will bring one to the market and it'll be up to the buying public to decide which one they like better...
 
I hadn't heard that one in a very looong time!
Thanks for the mammaries!
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daveinva said:
And that's not out on the streets, now is it? ;)

I'd love to have a leaning Spyder-- as another model. NOT one that replaces the current design, which I also enjoy.
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This is what I think will happen, its going to happen ....... and X bikes will also come out from Can Am as well as the Y design, half the world can ride them on the road so why ignore that? :thumbup::thumbup:
 
I was able to have a conversation with my Roads and traffic authority here in my State in Australia yesterday and as an "Enabled" rider, basically given an engineers report I can design something with them that will be safe enough to run AND provides a better solution than riding anything else I can design both a Y trike and a X bike (quadracycle - leaning in this case).

So given some coversation with some design engineers here I can get a leaning design down and then get it made or still trying to look in Europe to see if anyone there has done anything as say France and Germany which are prolific bike customisers and have 4 wheelers legal on the road so I'm SURE sombebody must have done something.

If not I'll have to start from scratch myself and I have the concepts and the precedents to work with from other leaning bikes its just a matter of applying them to the Spyder. Be a hell of a project and cost a a gazillion dollars I dont have if I do it over here, but I'll probably have to do at least the drawings here.

Anyway lets see what we can find out if it takes me a year to come up with a design and build that would probably be a good thing as I hope another business idea I'm starting up will make me enough maney to help make this product and then I maybe able to do that privately and maybe put it on the market at least in the US and Europe, ironically not be able to do it in Australia.

Wanted to talk to ISCI about it but havent been able to get a hold of Darrell does anyone know him or their latest e-mail address?

Cheers

Gavin
 
An ambitious undertaking to be sure; the best of luck to you! :thumbup: Please keep us informed on how it progresses...
Regarding ISCI:
I'll see if I can get an email address or phone number for you...

I couldn't find an email address... :opps:
Phone numbers I did find! :thumbup:
Toll free: (might not wok on an internatinal call...):dontknow:
1 800 838 9421
OR..
1 334 277 2224 phone #
OR
1 334 277 9648 fax #
 
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I had one of these. Paid $2,300 . Nothing but Problems- never even rode it - GAVE away for $1,000 . Many parts were Not as pictured- it was a total disaster. I was just Happy to get it out of the garage!:yikes:
 
rrman01 said:
i will be following this with intrest also tilting hmmmmmmmmmmmmm,,
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Why watch rrman?? Get involved! :)

Let me know your thoughts or what yor up to, this is something cant commercially do in Australia except for people with similar afflictions IF the engineer says its a goer and suited to the purpose there-of.
 
Nothing Polarises opinions like changes in things that they like. :yikes:

Well there's no need to feel threatened because this wont be a change to your Y-ike. At the moment I don't even know if it will happen for me let alone be out in the world doing anything. I just anticipate if I do it I would like to try and recoup some of the cost by either onselling drawings or by patenting systems etc. People like to crawl all over their Y-ike like a Spyder then you should be allowed to do that and I'm not even invoiting other people to change in that regards.

But this is something that is best possible ride for me, the Can Am SE5 just happens to be the best engine config for me and the Spyder perhaps represents the least amount of changes neccessary to make what I want to make. So sorry to have chosen the Syder to work with. :opps::(
 
Reality

Look Guys,
leaning reverse trike is far from being anything new. Crowd in Italy is making leaning DUCATI, crowd in Germany is making leaning Triumph, also conversions are available from others.
How many you seen on the road?
Leaning Spyder? - it will look nothing like a Spyder, it will ride nothing like a Spyder so it will not be a Spyder. If someone thing that all it's gonna be is a current configuration but leaning may also be disappointed .
keep a width of current Spyder on leaning model would costs a lot alone, next you need round pattern tyres, strip entire belly, reposition both radiators( possibly on front, instead of frunk), redesign entire breaking system yadayadayadayadadaaaa . That is all possible, all doable, all been done already, what seems to be a big job to me is - not to make it ugly and that is going to be a challenge.
price mark? - I wouldn't be surprised if it is Current Spyder price +$10K , and maybe I would be surprised that it's not more actually.

I can see BRP entering this pond only for sake of being first factory manufacturer of such a thing, not for profits.
if BRP would want to increase sales, which doesn't seem to be a case, they must put decent engine in that Beast to attract young, performance oriented riders but since it didn't happen till now - 5years on the market, I losing my hopes at this stage.
HOWGH
 
SXSMachine said:
Nothing Polarises opinions like changes in things that they like. :yikes:

Well there's no need to feel threatened because this wont be a change to your Y-ike. At the moment I don't even know if it will happen for me let alone be out in the world doing anything. I just anticipate if I do it I would like to try and recoup some of the cost by either onselling drawings or by patenting systems etc. People like to crawl all over their Y-ike like a Spyder then you should be allowed to do that and I'm not even invoiting other people to change in that regards.

But this is something that is best possible ride for me, the Can Am SE5 just happens to be the best engine config for me and the Spyder perhaps represents the least amount of changes neccessary to make what I want to make. So sorry to have chosen the Syder to work with. :opps::(
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Well I sure would not give up on the idea - even if you only get one built for yourself. This sounds like a real passion for you so see it to through to the end - whether it happens or not. You never know. I wish you nothing but the best of luck with it.
 
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