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Call from Carlo's boss

Thanks Db for the update!!:2thumbs:

You have been through alot..Brian has been throug alot..and I have...well a new spyder in a '08 body!!!:2excited: I can't wait for ryding season!! I have put less than 1000 miles on it since my repairs. :gaah:

I knew there were chances of things going wrong when I bought a totally knew innovative machine from BRP. With all the things that went wrong I feel that my Dealer and BRP have made everything right and in a timely manner.

My problems were just not at the right time for me!! :D

I have now bought a new bushtec trailer----there was no claw hammer that came with it!!:dontknow:

take care, ride safe
 
Thanks Db for the update!!:2thumbs:

You have been through alot..Brian has been throug alot..and I have...well a new spyder in a '08 body!!!:2excited: I can't wait for ryding season!! I have put less than 1000 miles on it since my repairs. :gaah:

I knew there were chances of things going wrong when I bought a totally knew innovative machine from BRP. With all the things that went wrong I feel that my Dealer and BRP have made everything right and in a timely manner.

My problems were just not at the right time for me!! :D

I have now bought a new bushtec trailer----there was no claw hammer that came with it!!:dontknow:

take care, ride safe

When I see you remind me to buy you that very special "Claw Hammer" accessory. :D
 
Deb,

I spoke with Carlo at some length 2 weeks ago and it was a very nice conversation. He was very cordial and advised me to contact him should I ever have a problem (hopefully I won't but you never know). I like the fact that he looked me up and contacted me. He is a very good representative of BRP...they are lucky to have him...his job is not easy right now. I look forward to BRP solving this issue once and for all so everyone will be happy.

Do you think there is any chance that Carlo can give us some global warming in MD as we have about 3-4 feet of snow on the ground? I just got back from skiing out west and there's more snow here than out there...argh! Thank goodness my neighbor cleaned part of my driveway for me...phew!
 
I'm sorry that I was busy and couldn't take this call. I would have loved to have been in this conference call with Carlo, Ghislain, Lamont and Deb. I have to say, it makes me feel really good to have the manufacturer take such an interest in our experiences with their product and company. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
 
I'm sorry that I was busy and couldn't take this call. I would have loved to have been in this conference call with Carlo, Ghislain, Lamont and Deb. I have to say, it makes me feel really good to have the manufacturer take such an interest in our experiences with their product and company. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:


I'm not sure what chapter we're up to or if I missed it, Brian--Deb's is done, where's your Spyder at?
 
This is excellent news, thank you for sharing! I for one haven't had any concerns that BRP wouldn't take of my Spyder if anything were to happen, but I sure am glad to hear proof of it! :)

Now, let's get this weather warmed up and let the riding season begin again!

Harry
 
Thank you for some encouraging news. My :spyder: has had steering issues and has been in and out of the shop since mid- december.
I've spoken to Carlo several times and he has always been codial and professional. I think half of my steering issue involves an inexperienced service Dept.. My :spyder:is to be trailered into the shop (again) this upcoming week. I am hoping that BRP techs will be in contact w/ the service dept to make certain they are following proper proceedure for the DPS replacement, if that's what is needed. I *really* hope next week I'll finally be able to ryde my :spyder:for the first time this year:pray:
 
Hi Everyone,
Just got off the phone about 1/2 hour ago on a conference call with Carlo, Lamont and Carlo's boss, Ghislain Cossette. I have to tell you, I was impressed. Now, keep in mind, they are not the engineers, or the company CEO's but they do honestly care about the Spyder Customers. These guys are in customer service for a reason...

I got a call from Carlo just last night, one day after I sent him an email outlining my concerns and lack of understanding about the steering update/DPS issue. He invited me to call him back as well with any questions.

Over the years, with all the vehicles I have owned, other than a customer survey, I have never had this much personal contact with the manufacturer of a product. Sure, dealers have called and checked on me but never the company directly. The Spyder is a very small niche market right now and for a corporation to spend this kind of time and money and resources relating directly to the customer says a lot.

Some of you may remember me saying this to you in Valcourt in June 2008; I know I wrote it here as well: Dodge didn't "welcome me home" when I bought my last truck. Nor Honda, Suzuki, or Harley-Davidson after I purchased any of my motorcycles since 1979. Sure, you can call it marketing, but it also left a positive impression.

So did Carlo's message on my answering machine.

(I didn't get to speak with him as the lovely bride's car window got smashed and I was dealing with police at the time. So now I have another vehicle that I am not happy or trusting of driving in the snow until it is fixed.)

Also, for those of you that don't think BRP is reading the forums, they are. Various times, there were people's posts that were referenced to regarding this issue or that issue. No they do not post themselves here and no they can not answer every issue. But they are aware of the amount of concern and dissatisfaction that people have had regarding their spyders and some of the issues. These things are not being ignored folks.


One of the things Carlo said in his message was the he was "expecting my email" as he had read my posts on spyderlovers.com.

I had only started to rant after my dealer visit on Tuesday, a day and a half ago...

But you can not expect the customer service or marketing guys to be able to give you the answers on the technical issues. There are proper channels for all this to go through. I know some have lost the faith...

I was a big BRP/Spyder cheerleader, but my first exchange of money with the company was only in 2007 when I put down the deposit on this vehicle. I had only the recommendations of a good friend and motorcycle mechanic (NOT "technician") and motorcycle test rider before this BRP product purchase.

As I have said before, I realize that compared to me, many others--dltang, bjt, RoadDog, Smylinacha & HDX, stgilmer, TexasTripod--oh yeah, and Way2Fast, to name just a few--have had far, far more frustration and much longer periods of waiting, confusion, disappointment, as well as danger in operating the vehicle.

Positive posts by members here stating "Hey, my Spyder works fine" may be good for those collecting data on whether or not to risk a purchase, or perhaps in deciding which dealers may be less reputable (recall those price scams in the Southwest US in 2008?) but they do nothing to comfort people with real safety issues.

A phone call from a corporate representative stating he has been in contact with the dealer is, at least, encouraging...

I think the actual issue can be with the dealer who may in turn be using BRP as a scapegoat.


...The fact that the corporate representative contacted my dealer shouldn't hurt the process. Even if, as Scotty suggested, I don't really know whether my dealer's technician didn't do absolutely everything correctly in his diagnosing process, it's fine with me if they think that BRP is looking over their shoulder (as, of course, I will be doing--literally--as Gary suggested, the next time I bring the vehicle in).

I just wanted everyone here to know, BRP is working for us and is customer friendly, but we live in a hurry up world and nothing ever gets done fast enough.


I filed the auto insurance claim after midnight this morning. It's already 8 am--Why do I still have cardboard and tape as a window?! :gaah:

My tech ordered the DPS on Tuesday afternoon, and it's Thursday morning already and no phone call!! :gaah:

Of course that's what it's become these days, Deb. I am absolutely guilty of such impatience.

Especially in this economy, this is certainly in BRP's best interest to make such prompt efforts (gestures?) to reassure owners about the process of attempting to repair vehicles. At least in the US, consumer brand/product loyalty is a very real phenomenon, and it takes a lot to maintain but very little (driving into oncoming traffic, say) to destroy.

(I am a bit concerned about how much of a fight I will have if my warranty runs out while parts are on order, or if "multiple" DPS units have to be installed before finding a "good" one by luck of the draw, as others have referred to.)

But (after seeing a particularly horribly refereed basketball game last night) I think the question is also often a degree of training and competence.

It's better for our dealers to be educated and trained to say "I don't know" than "Oh, all Spyders drive that way."

Make the vehicle go, stop, and turn--that's all we want.

And, yes--I know this is essentially a brand new concept for a vehicle. And yes, I want everything perfect (read: "safe"). Now.

Thanks for reading. I just thought inquiring minds would want to know. :chat:
 
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I dare say since 1989 I have spent more money on BRP products than most people.

Sometimes with the BRP products everything goes as it should and for the most part I have been very much a BRP cheerleader.

But it seems when things do go wrong, they really go wrong. :yikes:

I don't want my hand held and my butt patted as I get "lip service" as to why the almost 18K vehicle I purchased can't be fixed right, or right the first time.

Most people just want it fixed! They can save the phone calls for checking in on their mother.

We overnight parts to people many times. We want to make sure if there is a problem with a part we made it's addressed correctly, and RIGHT NOW!

That's on $50 to $200 items not 18K machines.

These DPS units should be considered "machine out of service" repairs and addressed like almost every car manufacturer does with an item like this. They overnight it to the dealership to get that unit back into service. If you want to start selling units that cost as much or more than a car, you got to start giving that same level off service too. Welcome To The Big Leagues!

Yes we live in a "microwave mentality" culture today. But that is a two way street. It is also what is expected from most of us as we too do our jobs. So, same "quarter given, same quarter expected." It's what we have to give as we earn the money to buy our Spyders, and it's the same we expect as we spend that money, fair enough.

Phone calls from "damage control central" may be nice for some people, but not for me.

Nobody will ever convince me engine repairs on any vehcile in the year 2010 should take 5 months for any reason, Gods sake! Show "you care," than fix my Spyder in a reasonable time frame not give me lip service why I should be OK with it taking 5 months to do so. Totally unexcusible in this day and age.

If your "factory authorized dealer" can't fix this problem than you can't just wash your hands of it as the manufacturer and leave the customer in limbo/ You need to do whatever it takes to service that customer in a "reasonable time frame" and nobopdy can tell me 5 months is "reasonable" in the year 2010!

Even if you have to fly in a factory tech to help the dealer it's the cost of doing business and in honoring the waranty you offered as a selling point on that unit. Or even replace the whole engine and deal with your lack of proper dealer training and standards later, not put the customer in the middle of some sort of dealership standards nightmare.

New Spyders were/are being made everyday, so I don't want to hear this was a parts issue ether, as where are those parts they build new Spyders coming from?

If you really want to show us "you care" dedicate the time and resources (whatever they cost, and whatever they may be) to get the final solution to this problem once and for all. For Gods sake it's been almost a year since the first complaints of DPS problems started!

So, Carlos if you are indeed "watching" and reading this forum. Tell your bosses that the "compitition" is watching, and the game clock is running on this whole DPS debacle. So, I'd say it's time to bring in your "A" players.

MM
 
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If you really want to show us "you care" dedicate the time and resources (whatever they cost, and whatever they may be) to get the final solution to this problem once and for all. For Gods sake it's been almost a year since the first complaints of DPS problems started!

So, Carlos if you are indeed "watching" and reading this forum. Tell your bosses that the "compitition" is watching, and the game clock is running on this whole DPS debacle. So, I'd say it's time to bring in your "A" players.

MM

:bowdown:Amen!
 
If you really want to show us "you care" dedicate the time and resources (whatever they cost, and whatever they may be) to get the final solution to this problem once and for all. For Gods sake it's been almost a year since the first complaints of DPS problems started!

MM



In my case it's been OVER a year since I experienced my steering problem.. I wrote about it in October 2008. I believe I was the first to report having a problem on this forum.
 
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$20 says Carlo calls you next..........

He'll try to pour you a cup, just don't take it....
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$20 says Carlo calls you next..........

He'll try to pour you a cup, just don't take it....
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He won't call me that you can be sure of. :yikes:

I'm not in a "cool aid" drinking kind of mood regarding BRP anymore.

After all, I'm not on their "Fave Five" list. :roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:

MM
 
It never ceases to amaze me how someone can take one members good experience and turn it into their bad experience. You guys are good :congrats:
 
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