BRP got it made

[Bob Denman]

Talk Mark into moving the temperature sensor forward, and away from the engine bay heat; it couldn't hurt! :thumbup:
Hide it down in the front of the nose; under the Tupperware...

 

[charles4690]

I'm in, I think if we want something done we need to get together as one.

Please count me in. I know the intense heat will cause damage to everything plastic or rubber under the panels, which will lead to much expense or posible injury.

 

[NancysToy]

Talk Mark into moving the temperature sensor forward, and away from the engine bay heat; it couldn't hurt! :thumbup:
Hide it down in the front of the nose; under the Tupperware...

Be careful with that approach. The AAPTS sensor also measures air pressure, and does not like a direct air stream. Please note that like many other "cures", this is just a band-aid...or rather a deception since it fools the Spyder ECM, much like the old O2 eliminator thing.

 

[Bob Denman]

That's why I'm suggesting to tuck it up under the bodywork...

 

[Sny]

Are you sure that it's the engine creating that much more heat? Have you taken a plug reading yet? :dontknow:

My rear cylinder is as white as fb's.

 

[hotglue]

Are you sure that it's the engine creating that much more heat? Have you taken a plug reading yet? :dontknow:

Really???? maybe it's global warming...:roflblack:

 

[Bob Denman]

My rear cylinder is as white as fb's.

Thanks! you hadn't mentioned whether or not your plugs had been checked; smart move! :thumbup:

 

[boborgera]

Way back when, My Mother in-law lived in an apartment. Her landlord to keep the heat low[to her thinking] had a locked thermostat installed in the apartment, So my mother in-law would take a ice cube rap it in aluminum foll place it on top of the thermostat to fool it, And walla got all the heat she needed..nojoke

 

[Bob Denman]

I was wondering if there was a practical way to do something just like that... :thumbup:
The only idea that I've been able to see; is moving that sensor to a spot further away from the heat... :shocked:

 

[daveinva]

Lean,? It looks like that plug isn't getting fuel... :shocked:

Anyone put a JuiceBox or Power Commander on a 2013 Spyder yet? I wonder if the mixture's off...

 

[Sny]

Way back when, My Mother in-law lived in an apartment. Her landlord to keep the heat low[to her thinking] had a locked thermostat installed in the apartment, So my mother in-law would take a ice cube rap it in aluminum foll place it on top of the thermostat to fool it, And walla got all the heat she needed..nojoke

Maybe a peltier junction nearby the temp sensor to cool it down... if they didn't use so much power to do so.

 

[Sny]

Anyone put a JuiceBox or Power Commander on a 2013 Spyder yet? I wonder if the mixture's off...

I heard of one person who tried and failed... and removed it.

Dynojet does list one for the 2013 now, but it's the same part number for a 2012RT (not surprised) and they have the same maps as the 2012 RT as well.

But... who uses stock maps anyhow?

 

[boborgera]

I was wondering if there was a practical way to do something just like that... :thumbup:
The only idea that I've been able to see; is moving that sensor to a spot further away from the heat... :shocked:

I guess if it were that simple, The brain trusts at BRP would have figured it out by now....
That is after the denial that there is a heat problem......

 

[RBS66]

My spider went in last Thursday for service. Was having the 600 mile service done the recall done, Also my highbeam was not working, My air ride suspension was not holding air. They did the recall said there was no signs of damage they replaced my left hand control module so my highbeam would work correctly. They also tried to fix my air ride suspension. They thought they got it fixed but when I got home it had leaked some air. It must have a slow leak. I was in the dealership 4 1/2 hours almost 5 hours. When I got home I called to tell them the air ride was still leaking. They told me to bring it in on Monday morning.
So I went for a ride of about 40 miles on Saturday with my wife. The bikes seem to be riding hotter than normal this was after the recall was done. Felt very hot around the glovebox area also when I parked in the garage I get gas fumes. Also sounded like the gas was boiling in the tank remember this is after 40 mile ride. Around the gas area was extremely hot the backbone of the bike was so hot to the touch right under the glove box. It was so hot the liner inside the glove box with the foam on it the foam was starting to separate from the plastic because it was so hot.
Also while I was riding on Saturday my right tire seem to be bouncing don't know what is causing that . So to sum it all up I told the dealer about all these issues and they're looking into the heat issues and the fuel smell and the air ride and the bounce in the front tire. So now my bike has been in the shop since Monday I've heard nothing back from the dealer yet.


DON'T KNOW WHAT TO THINK ABOUT ALL THIS HAPPENING WITH A BRAND-NEW BIKE

 

[daveinva]

I heard of one person who tried and failed... and removed it.

Dynojet does list one for the 2013 now, but it's the same part number for a 2012RT (not surprised) and they have the same maps as the 2012 RT as well.

But... who uses stock maps anyhow?

I just wonder-- given that some 2013s seem to run not very hot and others run EXTREMELY hot, that has always suggested to me an engine-related issue more than a airflow routing/tupperware-related issue. (If it was the latter, they'd ALL suffer, no?)

Judging by those plugs, could this all be just a case of some 2013 engines running too lean? And could that be blamed on bad sensors?

Just spitballing... :dontknow:

 

[wyliec]

I'm wondering if there may be multiple owners of 2013's RT or ST that live near each other where one has extreme heat and another doesn't. They could get together and ride and measure the temp. at the gas cap as pointed out by Sny. Wouldn't that indicate whether there was or wasn't an airflow difference under the tupperware?

 

[NancysToy]

I AGREE.

You do not want to move that sensor.


It is unfortunate it doesn't report the correct temperature but it is repeatable and the spyder expects readings from the sensor placed where the factor placed them.

I don't think it has as much effect as some may think, anyway. The update time is slow and the resolution appears to be one full degree C, so at best it is probably pointing at a certain map, rather than doing any precise tuning function.

 

[Kratos]

I agree with Sny's thinking. My guess is that the fuel map is leaner, which is why no one is getting a real fix, because BRP would have to re-map all the bikes.....and that ain't happening.

 

[NancysToy]

I agree with Sny's thinking. My guess is that the fuel map is leaner, which is why no one is getting a real fixed, because BRP would have to re-map all the bikes.....and that ain't happening.

And they would have to run EPA certification testing on that year and model.